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December 2009
The Nature of Desire

“This is the monstrosity in love, lady,” Troilus tells Cressida in Shakespeare’s play, “that the will is infinite and the execution confined, that the desire is boundless and the act a slave to limit.” Human desire, in other words, is doubly infinite: We are perpetually unsatisfied when we get what we want, and we are capable of wanting anything at all.

Suppose Troilus is right. That would mean desire eventually must consume even itself. Indeed, in Troilus and Cressida, Ulysses says precisely that: Since appetite is “an universal wolf, / so doubly seconded with will and power,” it “must make perforce an universal prey, / and last eat up himself.”

I find this understanding of desire immediately plausible. It does not sit well, however, with the way that we Catholic thinkers typically talk about desire—categorizing some desires as natural and others as unnatural. It does not sit well with that most typical of Catholic ideas: natural law. If desire is doubly infinite, as Shakespeare suggests, and therefore self-consuming, what can it mean to speak of any desire as natural?

Of course, if human desire is infinite, then it is, in a sense, entirely natural for us to desire anything we can imagine or conceive. This, in turn, means our desires are naturally open rather than closed, protean rather than formed, awaiting direction rather than already under orders. The range of things on which human desire is focused is, as a matter of fact, infinite, and the plasticity of desire is distinctively human. Consider the desires of your dog, or of the crape myrtle tree in your yard. The desires of these creatures are not infinitely malleable, and the range they are capable of reaching is small.

The nature of human desire, then, is that no particular desire is natural. A full appreciation of human nature—a sort of meta-naturalism—properly denies the natural. And this denial applies even to the drives we have genetically: our urges for sex and food and violence. Even these are capable of formation, reformation, and deformation, to the point of their own ­erasure. This is why we have Casanovas and celibates, gourmands and hunger artists, torturers and pacifists.

If all this is true, then we ought not to talk as though it were not. You will hear it said, for instance, that the desire for political freedom is a natural human desire, or that heterosexual desire is natural, or that the desire for God is natural (theologians often say this). For that matter, you will hear it sometimes said that it is unnatural to eat horses and snails (the English like to say this, having in mind French culinary tastes), or that parental love for children is natural. Of course, such talk is deeply rooted in tradition, and it’s unlikely that we will stop. But we should understand that, even while we speak this way, we are not in fact more open to any particular configuration of desire than to another.

Or, at least, we have no particularly natural desires now—although, I want to argue, we did before the Fall and will again, after the resurrection to eternal life.

Theologians, especially my fellow Catholic theo­logians, may find this implausible. But we must begin with the fact that human desire has been deranged. Our desires have moved from order to chaos; they have been opened to the damnable as well as the beautiful. Following hard on the expulsion from the Garden (a place where both human desires and the things on which they focused were arranged beautifully and cultivated in accord with God’s passions), the Bible tells us, Cain envied and killed Abel.

That’s the way the human tale of desire begins—with blood and a hunger for taking from others what they have for no other reason than that they have it. And from this derangement comes, very rapidly, the evils of slavery, rape, genocide, and abortion, together with their many bloody cousins. We lack natural desire because our desires have been removed from their proper arrangement, their properly harmonious response to the fact that we are created beings. After the Fall, we suffer from derangement.

The word derangement can be taken to have two apparently opposed meanings. It has its standard sense of removing arrangement, order, and beauty. But we might also use the word to mean an enclosing, a restricting—a limiting of what is properly a larger range. And this double meaning is reflected in the double derangement of our desires. Derangements in the direction of openness—as when our desires are set free to wander in an open range without limits—necessarily cause a second derangement, this time in the direction of discipline and enclosure.

Our derangedly open desires can be directed to anything at all. But desire never seeks anything, exactly; it always seeks something in particular, though that something might be almost anything. Our sexual, gastronomic, and intellectual appetites are unbounded in what they might desire, but they will eventually focus on some particular desire. For these appetites to be configured, they will have to be narrowed, disciplined, and restricted—that is, deranged in the second sense of the word—from the infinitely open range in which they wander.

This configuration happens inevitably. The question, then, is not whether it will happen, but how, and whether the configuration will be beautiful or ugly. Our appetites for one another (to take just one example), derangedly open as they are now, may be configured toward necrophilia, in which we seek others only as dead.

Or they may be configured toward love, in which we seek others as the particular images of God that each of them is. Or they may be configured anywhere in between. The second derangement, the narrowing one, may aim at a reversal of the first derangement or at its intensification.

Consider hunger. This would appear an innate drive: The sucking reflex of the newborn is something close to a human universal. Still, that drive is almost weightless and formless. It floats nearly free of response to and desire for any particular food. Our hungers are instructed and formed over time by careful nurture. The breast is offered to newborns, and their positive responses to it and its gift of milk are encouraged.

As they grow, children experience their tastes being formed by local habit, custom, and discipline until they become, for instance, adults who appreciate and desire a dozen raw oysters washed down with a crisply citrus-tinged Pinot Gris and who are revolted by a dinnertime offering of roast cat. Or they may become eaters who are disgusted by cheese while eager to eat plantain fried in peanut oil. Every adult eater has gastronomic appetites of fantastic complexity, and every particular feature of that complexity has, among the necessary conditions for its existence, a local catechesis. None of these tastes is ­natural.

Consider, too, our desire to speak—the appetite for language, for responding to the words of others with words of our own. The catechetical story is the same, whether the children are speakers of Italian, with a taste for writing and reading sestinas, or speakers of English, with a taste for the rhythms of rap. Particular desires for words get configured in a vast edifice of culture, education, and native tongues. As with particular gastronomic choices, configured verbal desires that give delight to some will bore or disgust or puzzle others.

A useful example for understanding this distinctively human feature of desire is the fact of excess. To say of human desires that they are excessive is, first, to repeat that they are open to almost infinitely varying configurations. But it is also to focus attention on the insatiability of desire:

The human effort to configure and reconfigure and extend and elaborate desires is constantly transgressive exactly because it is excessive. Gastronomic desire does not find rest in adequate nutrition. If it did, there would be no chefs, no restaurants, no shelves groaning with diet and recipe books. Sexual desire does not find rest in procreation and loving intimacy. If it did, there would be no adulterers, no pornography, and very little romantic poetry.

The question, then, is how we should discriminate among the configurations of our excess. Which should we encourage, and which discourage? Almost all of us have been catechized—the Christian word is appropriate—in such a way that we have a meta-appetite, an appetite for disciplining both our own appetites and those of others into particular configurations.

Most parents, for instance, prefer to catechize out of their toddlers a desire to display and share their own excrement, a desire that many toddlers show at one time or another. Most teachers work hard to encourage the habits of mental discipline that they think will nurture the development of particular desired skills—literacy, say, or logic. At the same time, teachers work hard to discourage habits that will hinder the development of these skills. And doctors strive to change patterns of appetite, most generally those for a style of life directly productive of disease and death.

Similarly, we often find our own adult appetites in need of reconfiguration, and so we catechize ourselves—whether over something as trivial as an appetite for nicotine or as important as an appetite for self-aggrandizement. Judgments of these kinds, and the catechetical activities that go with them, are normative: They imply an understanding of what human flourishing and human corruption are like. Christians are like everyone else in this. We believe that Jesus Christ came so that we might have life and have it more abundantly. This can be paraphrased without significant loss, except in pithiness, by saying that Jesus Christ came so that our appetites might be configured in some particular way, our desires lent a certain weight—a weight that will turn us from death and fit us for life.

Each particular configuration of appetite has a temporal impetus: It is an element in a habitus, a mode of being in the world, that disposes people to move along its track. There is no inevitability about such movement. It is possible for a well-established habitus to be suddenly and radically reconfigured: Drunks may suddenly cease to drink, the generous may become miserly, and the violent may become peaceable. But this is not the usual story. Usually we continue moving in the direction we are heading.

The ten-year-old child living in Japan is likely to become a more proficient and polished user of Japanese. The man practiced at inflicting pain on others will, in the right context, become even more practiced. The weight of our catechized appetites drags us in a certain direction: The eyes of the glutton follow the food, while those of the devout seek the traces of God.

There is always, in such habits, an implied goal, which is the full development of the habit’s tendency. Christians, of course, believe that even good appetites cannot be developed fully on earth; they find their full and final development only when we see God face to face and know as we are known. Indeed, where the adjective natural is typically used to modify some ­pattern of appetite, we Christians might do well to ­substitute a phrase such as to be cultivated in response to divine gift.

Applied to “natural desire” for God, the substitution works well: The desire to know and see God is a configuration we can nurture or oppose. It can flourish or wither because of what we do or refuse to do, and its cultivation is undertaken with an eye to its heavenly result. To desire God is good for us because it prepares us for intimacy with him, which is what we are created for. To configure our desires in such a way that the desire for God becomes progressively less possible for us is to make ourselves less than we should be. In its extreme case, it is damnation.

Christians often say that human beings are disposed to configure appetite in a God-directed way, but we are, in fact, no more disposed to configure our desires that way than any other. This is, in part, why it is improper to speak of our desire for God as natural to us. That desire is just one configuration possible for us; it is no more natural to us than its opposite, which is a desire for the lack that is God’s absence. The cultivation of the desire for God, then, is not a human work independent of God; it is an instance of responsive gratitude to the gift of the very possibility of action.

An interesting question is whether this openness—this inchoateness of desire, this readiness for formation and malformation—is a good thing or a bad thing about us. Is this feature of human existence after the Fall something to be lamented and corrected, or are there features of it that warrant rejoicing—features that make it possible for us to be more fully conformed to God?

In Eden, before the Fall, human desires were not inchoately open in the way they are now. Adam and Eve’s desires were focused on God without need for catechesis, and the desire for God was as natural to them as a heartbeat. An inevitable concomitant of this natural focus, however, would have been a reduction in the range of desire’s texture and possible formation. There would have been neither need nor occasion for the range of gastronomic, verbal, or sexual appetites that are unavoidably open to us now.

The same is true in heaven. The saints’ natural desires are indefectibly fixed on God, formed in the single and maximally beautiful shape of praise. Desire’s heavenly range is, therefore, in one sense, very small: tightly aimed at a single focus. But because the Lord is in every sense infinite, desire’s removal from the open range of possibility that exists here below is not, in fact, a derangement in the direction of loss but, rather, a focus in the direction of infinite gain.

Like Adam and Eve, the saints in heaven have a natural desire for God, but the grammar of the faith requires us to say that there is, nevertheless, a deep difference between Edenic desire and heavenly desire. The difference is not of range but of history—a history that has intervened between paradise and heaven; a ­history of sin and death, violence and blood; a history in which we are fully implicated.

The absence of tears in heaven—an absence for which there is deep scriptural warrant—does not mean that this history has been erased or forgotten. The weight of it remains because the events that constitute it are real; it is not a shadow play that can be erased by heaven’s radiance. Those who love God in heaven are healed sinners; they include killers and rapists and torturers. Those who dwelled in the paradise at the beginning had not yet sinned and were not yet soaked in blood violently shed.

God’s embrace of each kind of lover is, therefore, correspondingly different. If it is true that there is more heavenly rejoicing over the lost sheep that is found than over the sheep that have not strayed, God’s embrace shows one important sense in which the history that began with the eating of forbidden fruit in the Garden and that will end in the heavenly city is a good one. God’s embrace of each kind of lover is a way of explaining Adam’s sin, and the consequent removal from us of a natural desire for God, as a felix culpa, a happy fault. To say this neither explains nor justifies sin and death. It simply indicates one thing that follows from the Fall’s derangements that should not be lamented but, rather, rejoiced in.

The derangement of human desire in the Garden opened human desire to an infinite range of possibility by making that desire inchoate. The secondary derangements I have described catechize this inchoateness into a vast variety of particular configurations. Each of these particular configurations is, to some extent, damaged, blood- and violence-threaded, idolatrous, lured by lack and absence.

But not every particular configuration is deranged to the same extent. My desire to sing the Sanctus and to receive the body and blood of Christ in humility, in the company of my brothers and sisters in Christ, is not, in these respects, on a par with my desire to dominate by intellectual violence my brothers and sisters in the university. I’ve been catechized into both desires, and both are alive and active in me, but one conforms me more closely to God, and the other damages me by separating me from God.

Catechized, secondarily deranged desires are, then, theoretically locatable in a hierarchy of goodness, although never easily and never without qualification and ambiguity. Among the products of desire deranged are some goods that otherwise would not have been. Consider the singing of a Bach cantata, or the flying buttresses of a Gothic cathedral, or the poetry of George Herbert, or the embrace of lovers long separated, or the gift of time and love to the dying, or the Christian assembly on its knees as bread and wine are consecrated on the altar. All of these fit with desires well catechized and divinely beautiful, and all of them would not have occurred without the Fall.

Such goods will, in some fashion, be taken up into heaven. Their beauty and complexity and order is the reason our theological rejection of the ordinary concept of natural desire is a lament linked with joy.

Catholic theologians and Thomistic philosophers will object to this understanding of the human situation, and their objections must be taken seriously. But consider this: Among the strongest currents of thought these days is one that encourages us to discover who we are and to act accordingly—to gaze with the inward eye on our glassy essence and respond to what we find there. That gaze yields a vast range of identities: of gender and sex and ethnicity, of trait and temperament and passion. If what I have argued is right, when we attempt to discover who we are in that way, we find only phantasms—creatures of the imagination that wither when we turn our imaginations away from them.

This rejection of the language of natural desire opens to us, instead, the truth that we are creatures—inchoate, unformed, and hovering over the void from which we were made—who must seek either to return to that void or to find happiness in the arms of the one who brought us forth from it. There is no glassy essence to discover; there is nothing but an unformed gaze that receives form only by looking away from itself and receiving the gift of being looked at by God.

Paul J. Griffiths holds the Warren Chair of Catholic Theology at Duke University’s Divinity School. This essay is adapted from his October 2008 lecture inaugurating his tenure.

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11.20.2009 | 11:18am
Daniel Gioia says:
The topic of this article is extremely timely given the euphoria ushered in by our New Age of Aquarius via the Obama administration.

I think the last word on desire and will goes to St. Paul...."All is permitted....but all is not beneficial."

Self restraint for the good of everyone.........is the enlightened ideal.

Solzhenitsyn's...."Repetenance and Self Limitation in the Life of Nations"......is a modern restatement of Paul's idea.

An idea.........which is under severe attack in the land of individual rights NOT for political purposes but for personal hedonistic gratification.

11.21.2009 | 12:24am
Baffled says:
I'm not sure what about this article disturbs me more: the blatant disregard for logic and reason at nearly every turn; the grossly cynical and pessimistic depiction of human nature; the tragic distortion of St. Paul's genius; or the fact that Mr. Griffiths holds a chair of Catholic theology!

Why do I get the impression that some Protestants (emphasis on 'some') seem to espouse the craziest of ideas simply for the sake of differentiating themselves from the Catholic position, even when this requires them to jettison both reason and faith to an appalling degree? It is a sure way to twist one's self into a logical pretzel. Mr. Griffiths, please do yourself the favor of considering that perhaps the Catholic and Thomistic position has more to offer than you have yet acknowledged.

11.21.2009 | 2:35am
Still Baffled says:
Mr. Griffiths, please consider this one question: If there is no longer any such thing as natural desire in postlapsarian man, what on earth differentiates a good desire from a bad one? How can man profit from a desire for God if it doesn’t fulfill something in (man’s) very nature? By denying the concept of nature—why you would want to do this, I simply can’t fathom—you positively deprive yourself of any grounds whatsoever for claiming that any one desire is better than another. …and please don’t insult Our Lord with some ridiculously blasphemous notion of ‘divine command theory.’ Such a pitifully impoverished distortion of the Good News is a consequence of refusing to receive the Light that Christ diffuses through His Body, the Church. Do you not see that your low estimation of our creaturely status, besides being devoid of any philosophical good sense, is quite simply an offense to the Creator? Remember, it is not without reason that existentialism is a typically atheistic position. Please, please, please read Matthew Levering’s “Biblical Natural Law” before you embarrass yourself and slander the Gospel any more than you already have.

11.21.2009 | 10:14am
Daniel Gioia says:
The crux of this article is simple.

"After the Fall......human desire is plagued by derangement."

This is the essence of eating from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil.

The rest is semantics and legalism.

Dostoevsky said........"The salvation of the world lies in everyone being concerned for everyone."

He also said......."If there is no God......then I am God."

Man wants to be God............that is the source of conscious desire(not basic animal needs).

Truth, beauty, order, harmony, justice,fraternite, equality........are conscious ideals that come from the human mind............and human history is a testament to their perversion.

Aristotelian constructs of morality and ethics.........take on a life of their own.

The Zen principle of "less is more" provides some clarity.

"The letter of the law brings death..........but the spirit brings life."

11.24.2009 | 1:39am
Br. Timothy says:
Dear Daniel,

Any Christian who acknowledges natural law would fully agree that, "after the fall, human desire is plagued by derangement." Remember though, it is the struggling St. Paul who declares, "I delight in the law of God in my inner self." Even after the fall, he recognizes God's law written on his heart. The reason that the sinful desires waging war against this law are evil is precisely because they flout the natural law in his inner self. In order to describe a desire as 'deranged,' there has to be some standard by which we can differentiate a deranged desire from one that is, if you will, properly arranged. Perhaps you would say the standard is God's law. Again, natural law thinkers agree with you. The natural law IS the law of the Creator as He has inscribed it in His creation. When God says, "do not kill, do not lie...," he is calling our attention to something we should already have figured out - namely, that such things aren't good for us; they run counter to the fiber of our being. Even if we have a desire for them, that desire is deranged precisely because it runs contrary to our very nature - a nature with which we've been endowed by God and which He expects/commands us to follow by the help of His Grace.

The fact that Aristotle had a little common sense--impressive for a pagan, I grant--hardly means that Christians should reject his commonsensical observations. In fact, it demonstrates one of the most fundamental points that is at stake in this discussion: EVEN PAGANS CAN RECOGNIZE THE BASICS OF RIGHT AND WRONG IF THEY HONESTLY USE THEIR BRAINS. This is why a Christian can say to an atheist, "we can both agree that it's wrong for you to steal my car." The atheist can't say, "don't impose your anti-theft religion on me; I don't believe the way you do, so hand over the keys." The reason for the obvious absurdity of such a claim is that even atheists, if they're honest, can perceive the evident truth that theft is wrong. Every society operates on these assumptions, even when they don't fully realize it or admit it. To reject them as this article does, besides being patently ridiculous, is to seek to undermine the moral framework on which society rests. This is the last thing that will help us to engage our neo-pagan culture.

11.24.2009 | 12:48pm
Daniel Gioia says:
Excellent reply.....even though I agree with almost none of it.

In my opinion there is no morality apart from God. These humane impulses by pagans are instincts or preferences........but they are not morality.

The nature of man is not inherently good.........the "natural" man must die in Christ.....says Scripture anyway.

Cultures have endorsed....genocide, slavery, rape...etc. But if pagans display humane behaviors.....I'm grateful for it.

11.24.2009 | 4:30pm
Andrew Greenwell says:
In his "The Nature of Desire," Paul Griffiths’ vision of man is more Humean than Catholic. He is perceptive enough to anticipate a virulent Thomistic—indeed Catholic—opposition to it. Whatever his view of man and morality, it seems well-outside the bounds of the Catholic moral tradition; in fact, in many ways it seems antithetical and incompatible with it. Indeed, Griffiths seems to recognize and relish in that very fact. Though he views his vision as more true than the received theories of natural law that govern Catholic moral teaching, he does not advance persuasive arguments for that assessment.

Griffiths’ argument starts from a very narrow and Humean view that man post lapsus is nothing but a bundle of desires. For Griffiths, man is impulse only, and he possesses no nature to distinguish him from the brute (except perhaps, after the Fall, the ability to have infinite desires). In defining man as a bundle of desires only, Griffiths appears wholly to neglect to role of reason as the defining distinction between man and brute (the word reason is not used once in his article as a source of binding norms). In Griffiths' view, man is not homo sapiens, but homo desiderius. Focusing then entirely on human desire as the only possible basis for the natural moral law, and rejecting reason’s role without mention why reason plays no part, Griffiths finds postlapsarian human desire to be “deranged,” infinitely “protean,” total “chaos,” and bereft of the least whiff of God’s prior antelapsarian ordering. This infinitely “plastic” desire no longer betrays a clue to a divine order, and therefore retains no value in informing us of what is right and good. Human nature is for Griffiths is what it was for Calvin (though the latter included reason in his definition of nature): hopelessly depraved. Desire, which for Griffiths is the sum and substance of man, accordingly yields no clue to God’s law, and is no accurate source to determine our good, or, for that matter, of our telos or end. It is unable to give us a definition of what is natural to man. It is too ambivalent a source to allow us to define human nature, i.e., what is natural to us, or what accords with our good. “The nature of human desire," Griffiths concludes, "is that no particular desire is natural.” Thus among the cacophony of the chorale of myriad desires, Griffiths despairs on ever finding the key to harmony, that is, he cannot find the natural law in man’s nature. There is no basso continuo in man. For Griffiths there is no essence, no nature from which we may glean a natural moral law, since our essence is “glassy,” invisible and undiscoverable. And so, finally, Griffiths proclaims that a “full appreciation of human nature—a sort of meta naturalism—properly denies the natural.” With such a narrow and emasculated view of nature, Griffiths rightly concludes, then, that any natural moral law predicated upon man’s subjective desires is bound to fail. While Griffiths acknowledges that these chaotic desires in man are subject to being configured (by social convention, self-imposed strictures, or even divinely-given strictures), these strictures—conventional or self-imposed or willed by God—are equally unavailing in determining the good because they cannot be ranked. “[W]e are not in fact more open to any particular configuration of desire than to another,” Griffith concludes. These configurations appear to be extrinsic, accidental molds placed upon our plastic desires, and so morality is an act not unlike a baker shaping his muffins. What is worse, there are no means by which these various efforts to fence in and mold the otherwise infinite plastic desires may be objectively judged, or at least Griffiths despairs of finding such means. So the moral difference between a necrophiliac and a celibate priest is the difference between speaking English or speaking Japanese, between preferring oysters to roasted cat. For a Christian, Griffiths concedes, the molder or the source of the configuration is Christ, and Christians are called to configure their desires so as to “turn us from death and fit us for life,” whatever that means. But this self-imposed law is fideistic, subjective and proper to Christians alone, and decidedly not universal. Though Griffiths suggests that “theoretically” there is a “hierarchy of goodness” that may allow us to rank these “configurations,” Griffiths never offers any suggestion as to how this may be done. In fact, he appears resigned to the practical impossibility in ranking these configurations. He confesses that all configurations—presumably also the Christian’s configuration—are “to some extent, damaged, blood-and-violence threaded, idolatrous, lured by lack and absence.” He further cautions that the theoretical ordering of configurations is not “easily” obtained, and “never without qualification and ambiguity.” So what is already theoretically well-nigh unattaniable is a fortiori practically impossible. They way I interpret Griffiths' comments, there is no way to distinguish the configuration chosen by Judas from the configuration chosen by St. John of the Cross. Presumably even God has problems judging configurations, and so (unrepentant!) rapists and torturers may be found in Paradise with repentant saints. Ultimately—because human desire is so amorphous, and because the configurations so subjective and fraught with ambiguity—there is no overriding, universal moral concept, no natural law that governs all men, and by which all men shall be judged. So Christians ought not to talk about a fundamental law, an objective natural law binding on all men, but rather ought to use Griffiths' horribly clumsy term to refer to their own particular subjectively-preferred configuration, a "to-be-cultivated-in-response-to-divine-gift law." Superficially, the prolix suggestion for a new term for the "natural moral law" is risibly clumsy. But, more seriously, Griffiths' theory of "to-be-cultivated-in-response-to-divine-gift law" not only ill-suits the English language, it ill-suits a Catholic theologian.

11.24.2009 | 6:29pm
Daniel Gioia says:
This argument that REASON will save humanity is preposterous.

History.....especially in the 20th century... was swamped by IRRATIONAL movements of nihilistic destruction.......Soviet Gulag comes to mind.

Enlightenment ideals......lead to the Great Terror.....Bonapartism......Bolshevism....and secular humanist positivism.

Reason has not saved a single person ever...........in fact....it's lead to more efficient destruction.

11.24.2009 | 10:07pm
Andrew Greenwell says:
Daniel is right, reason has not, and will not, save a single person. Salvation comes from God's grace. But Griffiths' article was not about what man must do to be saved, but rather whether there is a plan in man's nature, put there by God, that may tell us about what is good and right without revelation. Is there a natural revelation, so to speak, to be found in human nature which is in the image and likeness of God the Creator? I think so. Griffiths apparently thinks not. Salvation is not a natural gift, rather a supernatural gift. However, morality is a natural gift, from the same Giver. Nature and reason, both gifts from God, contain messages from Him, and provide the foundation upon which grace builds and without which grace cannot build. Grace builds upon nature, beautifies it, and raises it up. Faith goes beyond, but does not contradict, reason. God bids us to love Him with all our mind and strength, and that means both our nature and reason must be ultimately ordered to Him who is our Alpha and Omega.

11.25.2009 | 4:18pm
Daniel Gioia says:
Andrew....that is a well phrased reply.

I personally do not view reason as a gift......but as a necessary component of free will which is necessary for morality.

Faith and reason are completely separate. Reason is the language of the materialist. Faith is the language of the mystic.

Ivan Karamazov's famous........"Without God....all is permitted.".....is countered by Paul's....."All is permitted......but all is not beneficial."..........to my mind....the greatest pronouncement on morality by an earthly man in all of history.

11.28.2009 | 2:11am
Michael says:
Baffled refers to the author as a "Protestant" - or, at least, I take that to be what is meant. However, I believe that Griffiths is indeed a Roman Catholic, even if he teaches Catholic theology at a Protestant based Divinity School. Furthermore, I don't think that he is quite so dismissive of the Thomistic position as might be suggested at first glance (although Griffiths is more of an Augustinian, I believe). To put forward an essay is not the same thing as dismissing a belief; it is to suggest, to debate, to ponder... The essay provides valuable food for thought, and is, I think, capable of being held in tension with a theory of natural law. There must always be a concern that we do not take our theories and doctrines too far, that we do not confuse them with God himself, or words about God with the Word of God Incarnate.

12.5.2009 | 12:36pm
Wulfila says:
I was under the impression that Jansenists are Catholic.

12.6.2009 | 7:07am
Segue says:
Dear Daniel,

All of the instances that you pointed out (in general) of evil throughout history in society typically don't have the impact of a personal (particular) experience of evil and injustice in our own lives. So, with that in mind, I'd like to ask you to ask God for forgiveness for whatever is troubling you deeply. And... go to confession! Enjoy Advent, what a great time to prepare yourself spiritually.

12.7.2009 | 10:46am
bedefan says:
Infinite but fundamentally protean desire seems to me--as someone who has worked with addicts, felons, and post-traumatic vets off and on for several years--to be far more descriptive of human nature than anything I've seen or heard of in the Angelic Doctor.

At the same time, I'm not convinced that Griffiths' proposition is necessarily incompatible at its heart with Thomism, despite his (PG's) apparent protestations to the contrary.

I read this essay as a foray, a somewhat playful one at that, and not as a definitive statement of the author's unbending doctrine. In that respect... I think folks need to cool their jets a little. Griffiths is probably not completely right about what he says here (trying to be completely right is not his shtick), but I do think he's on to something.

12.8.2009 | 1:13pm
Br. Timothy Mary says:
Dear Bedefan,

One does not learn the nature of a thing by examining it in its most wounded and deformed condition. That is a sure way to be led astray. Rather, if one wants to ascertain the truth about something’s nature, only the healthiest specimens will yield an accurate conclusion—and only to the extent that they are in fact healthy. So I challenge you – study the lives of the Saints – any of them – and reassess whether you still believe that fallen-but-redeemed human nature is nothing more than a welter of confused and meaningless, isotropic desires. The idea is preposterous on its face. …and it is an offense to the Creator and Redeemer of human nature. It is also an offense to His Mother – the masterpiece of God’s creation and redemption. She was redeemed in the most absolute sense of the term, which the Catholic Church commemorates today as the Immaculate Conception. In her is manifested in glorious splendor the awesome power of Christ’s omnipotent redemption; here we see what it is to be saved—to become “a new creation,” as Paul put it, since creation and redemption are harmoniously linked by the God-Man. “All were created THROUGH him,” = original creation; “all were created FOR him.” = re-creation = redemption. The Alpha and the Omega holds it all together. This is why, ultimately, it is Christ the New Adam who reveals to us the full substance of what it means to be human. ECCE HOMO.

12.10.2009 | 3:05pm
Paul says:
Gentleman,

On the discussion about whether or not reason will save anyone, there is an assumption that reason is some sort of impersonal conclusion-generator. But, in fact, Christian revelation teaches that Christ is the Logos of God, which is to say the Divine Reason. It is true that God is more than reason; but He is not less. Reason and rationality are not just the same. Nor is the enlightenment conception of reason the same as Reason itself. Because God is Logos, it follows that while man may be saved by more than reason or rationality, he is not saved by less than Reason. I think you might attend more to just what it is you think that reason is. And here it's worth reflecting upon the Patristics, St. Augustine, and St. Thomas rather than simply on the so-called Enlightenment and the French Revolution. For these latter things are really reason's dethronement rather than its elevation.

12.25.2009 | 1:53pm
Dave says:
Good point, Paul.
Many seem to talk past each other because they don’t really have a simply agreed upon definition of many of the terms they use.
“To a great extent, the truths of the blessed gospel have been hidden under a false philosophy. In my early inquiries on the subject of religion, I found myself wholly unable to understand either the oral or written instructions of uninspired religious teachers. When I sought for definitions and explanations, I felt assured that they did not well understand themselves. I was struck with the fact that they so seldom defined, even to themselves, their own positions.” Charles G. Finney, in his preface to “Systematic Theology”
http://gospeltruth.net/1846ST/1846st_preface.htm

Fortunately, much of Finney’s works are in the public domain and widely available on the internet so that the intellectually honest can make there own investigation. Finney’s modern editor, Louis Parkhurst, writes,

“Finney’s preaching and teaching were successful in promoting revival and in the work of evangelism, because his theology was True to Scripture, True to Reason, and True to Life…The Holy Spirit uses truth, and applies truth from Scripture, Reason and Life in the conversion (sanctification and justification) of a sinner.”

As Finney himself said, “If the reason cannot be safely appealed to, how are we to know what the Bible means? For it is the faculty by which we get at the truth of the oracles of God.”
It is necessary to understand Natural Revelation as the Apostle teaches in the early parts of the Book of Romans and its need to be supplemented with Biblical Revelation.
It is true, indeed, that natural theology could not ascertain and establish the fact, that an atonement had been made, or that it certainly would be made; but if I am not mistaken, it might have been reasonably inferred, the true character of God being known and assumed, that an atonement of some kind would be made to render it consistent with His relations to the universe, to extend mercy to the guilty inhabitants of this world.

From the benevolence of God, as affirmed by reason, and manifested in His works and providence, it has been, as I suppose, justly inferred, that He would make arrangements to secure the holiness and salvation of men, and as a condition of this result, that He would grant them a further revelation of His will than had been given in creation and providence. The argument stands thus:

1. …this is not a state of retribution
2. The providence of God in this world is manifestly disciplinary, and designed to reform mankind.

3. These facts, taken in connection with the great ignorance and darkness of the human mind on moral and religious subjects, afford a strong presumption that the benevolent Creator will make to the inhabitants of this world who are so evidently yet in a state of trial, a further revelation of His will.
Charles Finney, "Systematic Theology", 1976 Edition, pg. 198

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