<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Waiting for State-sponsored Health Care</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2009/06/09/waiting-for-state-sponsored-health-care/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2009/06/09/waiting-for-state-sponsored-health-care/</link>
	<description>A First Things Blog</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 13:59:32 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Rachelle</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2009/06/09/waiting-for-state-sponsored-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 16:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/?p=3794#comment-255</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The best health care system is that of France.  Americans would do well to study European examples of health care systems, and not limit themselves to the UK.

As for Canada, the manufacturing of scarcity, willed through public policy, is  the first step towards the creation a two-tiered system that would allow private enterprise to undermine a public system.  Hence it is not the best example in assessing what a public health care system can become.

As a Canadian living in New York, I became aware of how many Americans undermine their health by not seeking prompt medical care because of the great expense of the system.  It was shocking to see how inaccessible routine medical care was for the great majority of middle class Americans, and how any serious illness made them vulnerable to personal bankruptcy, and worse NO medical care when the money ran out.  

I prefer to work on the renewal of the Canadian health care system by allowing a larger enrollment in medical schools, and the re-opening of those hospitals closed in the madness of curtailed public spending to reduce the national deficit.  

The current political problems of the Canadian Health system must be seen as just that:  political problems.  There are plenty of good examples of well functioning public health care systems in Europe to provide us with inspiration as to how public health care can be managed successfully.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best health care system is that of France.  Americans would do well to study European examples of health care systems, and not limit themselves to the UK.</p>
<p>As for Canada, the manufacturing of scarcity, willed through public policy, is  the first step towards the creation a two-tiered system that would allow private enterprise to undermine a public system.  Hence it is not the best example in assessing what a public health care system can become.</p>
<p>As a Canadian living in New York, I became aware of how many Americans undermine their health by not seeking prompt medical care because of the great expense of the system.  It was shocking to see how inaccessible routine medical care was for the great majority of middle class Americans, and how any serious illness made them vulnerable to personal bankruptcy, and worse NO medical care when the money ran out.  </p>
<p>I prefer to work on the renewal of the Canadian health care system by allowing a larger enrollment in medical schools, and the re-opening of those hospitals closed in the madness of curtailed public spending to reduce the national deficit.  </p>
<p>The current political problems of the Canadian Health system must be seen as just that:  political problems.  There are plenty of good examples of well functioning public health care systems in Europe to provide us with inspiration as to how public health care can be managed successfully.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: JWM</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2009/06/09/waiting-for-state-sponsored-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-251</link>
		<dc:creator>JWM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 05:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/?p=3794#comment-251</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[I have never heard as bizarre an argument for the Canadian health care system as Rachelle&#039;s posted above. As a Canadian who lived under Canadian health care for 40 years, the only way it survives is because of its proximity to the U.S.A. Difficult cases are routinely sent to the U.S., as are routine cases, such as radiation treatment and chemotherapy. Every Canadian family, and I stress every Canadian family, can give you incident after incident of their loved one&#039;s waiting for surgery, emergency care, or a visit to the specialist. I will give only one: my wife lost a fallopian tube, and more significantly a child, when she had an ectopic pregnancy. She literally crawled into the hospital the day before her fallopian tube burst because of the pain, but was sent home with me. They could not do an MRI and none had been done in the weeks prior, though one had been suggested by our physician because she suspected an ectopic pregnancy. They would not keep her overnight at the hospital. I do not know if our child could have been saved, but the next day all was lost, except, thank God, my wife. This is one story; I could give you many, many more. If not for the American system, which continues to produce access, technology and medical breakthroughs, Canada&#039;s sytem would have been lost years ago. Gratzer has written a couple of books on the Canadian medical system. I encourage all Americans to read one soon.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have never heard as bizarre an argument for the Canadian health care system as Rachelle&#8217;s posted above. As a Canadian who lived under Canadian health care for 40 years, the only way it survives is because of its proximity to the U.S.A. Difficult cases are routinely sent to the U.S., as are routine cases, such as radiation treatment and chemotherapy. Every Canadian family, and I stress every Canadian family, can give you incident after incident of their loved one&#8217;s waiting for surgery, emergency care, or a visit to the specialist. I will give only one: my wife lost a fallopian tube, and more significantly a child, when she had an ectopic pregnancy. She literally crawled into the hospital the day before her fallopian tube burst because of the pain, but was sent home with me. They could not do an MRI and none had been done in the weeks prior, though one had been suggested by our physician because she suspected an ectopic pregnancy. They would not keep her overnight at the hospital. I do not know if our child could have been saved, but the next day all was lost, except, thank God, my wife. This is one story; I could give you many, many more. If not for the American system, which continues to produce access, technology and medical breakthroughs, Canada&#8217;s sytem would have been lost years ago. Gratzer has written a couple of books on the Canadian medical system. I encourage all Americans to read one soon.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: TW</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2009/06/09/waiting-for-state-sponsored-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-250</link>
		<dc:creator>TW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jun 2009 01:19:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/?p=3794#comment-250</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[This is it! The answer to reducing abortions--make the pregnant mom wait 41 weeks for her abortion!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is it! The answer to reducing abortions&#8211;make the pregnant mom wait 41 weeks for her abortion!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Liam</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2009/06/09/waiting-for-state-sponsored-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 23:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/?p=3794#comment-248</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Well, for people whose health care is limited by lack of access (and that is an increasing number of people these days, except perhaps in Massachusetts), we already know the other form of rationing and waiting. It&#039;s not like the US doesn&#039;t already have it, you know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, for people whose health care is limited by lack of access (and that is an increasing number of people these days, except perhaps in Massachusetts), we already know the other form of rationing and waiting. It&#8217;s not like the US doesn&#8217;t already have it, you know.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Rachelle</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2009/06/09/waiting-for-state-sponsored-health-care/comment-page-1/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 20:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/?p=3794#comment-245</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The Canadian Health Care system suffers by its proximity to the United States.  Canadians are not as wealthy as Americans, so an American-style health care system would not work.  However, this does not prevent American health care providers who see in Canada a market for their services, and the Canadian Health Care system a barrier, from lobbying for its demises.  This met some success when hospitals were closed in 1996 as a cost-cutting measure.  As the population ages in Canada, and more health spending is required, the lack of a younger generation to support the old shall manifest itself in ever greater pressure to privatize the system.  If the United States were to enact some kind of a public health care system, this would alleviate the pressure somewhat.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Canadian Health Care system suffers by its proximity to the United States.  Canadians are not as wealthy as Americans, so an American-style health care system would not work.  However, this does not prevent American health care providers who see in Canada a market for their services, and the Canadian Health Care system a barrier, from lobbying for its demises.  This met some success when hospitals were closed in 1996 as a cost-cutting measure.  As the population ages in Canada, and more health spending is required, the lack of a younger generation to support the old shall manifest itself in ever greater pressure to privatize the system.  If the United States were to enact some kind of a public health care system, this would alleviate the pressure somewhat.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
