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		<title>By: Stones Cry Out - If they keep silent&#8230; &#187; Monday Highlights</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stones Cry Out - If they keep silent&#8230; &#187; Monday Highlights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] seen this noted before, and usually in the context as a &#8220;mood killer&#8221;. Hmm, any experimental [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Monday Highlights &#8211; Pseudo-Polymath</title>
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		<dc:creator>Monday Highlights &#8211; Pseudo-Polymath</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 13:46:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] seen this noted before, and usually in the context as a &#8220;mood killer&#8221;. Hmm, any experimental [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] seen this noted before, and usually in the context as a &#8220;mood killer&#8221;. Hmm, any experimental [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Puritanical attitudes towards sex &#8212; Cranach: The Blog of Veith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Puritanical attitudes towards sex &#8212; Cranach: The Blog of Veith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Sep 2009 10:00:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Joe Carter at First Things, responding to my post on prayer before [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: The Rev. Steven P. Tibbetts, STS</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2009/09/18/a-prayer-before-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-2994</link>
		<dc:creator>The Rev. Steven P. Tibbetts, STS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 04:55:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I once heard Prof. James Nestingen, retired from Luther Seminary, speak of a long-married Lutheran couple who, immediately prior to having marital relations, kneel at the side of their bed and say grace.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once heard Prof. James Nestingen, retired from Luther Seminary, speak of a long-married Lutheran couple who, immediately prior to having marital relations, kneel at the side of their bed and say grace.</p>
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		<title>By: Lust III &#171; Aegis</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2009/09/18/a-prayer-before-sex/comment-page-1/#comment-2980</link>
		<dc:creator>Lust III &#171; Aegis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 04:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] sex with something, naughty, bad or dirty (at least in a believer’s language). In his post on First Things, Joe Carter references a book that contains prayers before sex. While we could argue we should pray [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] sex with something, naughty, bad or dirty (at least in a believer’s language). In his post on First Things, Joe Carter references a book that contains prayers before sex. While we could argue we should pray [...]</p>
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		<title>By: XC</title>
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		<dc:creator>XC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Sep 2009 04:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes, please. Sexiness is not something that Christians should think about.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, please. Sexiness is not something that Christians should think about.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 23:00:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Veith says that if this is a mood killer for someone, then that means that they&#039;ve absorbed the attitude that sex has to be transgressive to be exciting. But that clearly doesn&#039;t follow. There&#039;s a lot of room between praying about sex before sex, on the one hand, and imagining oneself as fornicating before having sex with one&#039;s spouse. I suspect that the best attitude is in that middle space. 

That said, it seems right to me that we shouldn&#039;t find it inexplicably weird to pray before sex, at least sometimes - maybe on the wedding night or anniversaries, if that seems appropriate. But recognizing that sex is a prerogative of marriage and part of a sacrament doesn&#039;t require saying a special prayer together every time. Still less does it require thinking that that prayer is &quot;sexy.&quot; It&#039;s the latter remark that&#039;s really weird. Of all the things that a prayer might be, even this prayer, why should our measure of approval or regard for it be taken by whether or not we find it &quot;sexy.&quot; Please.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Veith says that if this is a mood killer for someone, then that means that they&#8217;ve absorbed the attitude that sex has to be transgressive to be exciting. But that clearly doesn&#8217;t follow. There&#8217;s a lot of room between praying about sex before sex, on the one hand, and imagining oneself as fornicating before having sex with one&#8217;s spouse. I suspect that the best attitude is in that middle space. </p>
<p>That said, it seems right to me that we shouldn&#8217;t find it inexplicably weird to pray before sex, at least sometimes &#8211; maybe on the wedding night or anniversaries, if that seems appropriate. But recognizing that sex is a prerogative of marriage and part of a sacrament doesn&#8217;t require saying a special prayer together every time. Still less does it require thinking that that prayer is &#8220;sexy.&#8221; It&#8217;s the latter remark that&#8217;s really weird. Of all the things that a prayer might be, even this prayer, why should our measure of approval or regard for it be taken by whether or not we find it &#8220;sexy.&#8221; Please.</p>
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		<title>By: E.D. Kain</title>
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		<dc:creator>E.D. Kain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 22:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Seems to me the prayer should take place afterward - maybe along the lines, for some anyways, of &quot;Thank God.&quot;  Either way, something short and sweet.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems to me the prayer should take place afterward &#8211; maybe along the lines, for some anyways, of &#8220;Thank God.&#8221;  Either way, something short and sweet.</p>
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		<title>By: Tweets that mention A Prayer Before Sex? » First Thoughts &#124; A First Things Blog -- Topsy.com</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:56:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Rev. John M. Taggatz. Rev. John M. Taggatz said: ROFTERS A Prayer Before Sex? http://bit.ly/MMF6C [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Rev. John M. Taggatz. Rev. John M. Taggatz said: ROFTERS A Prayer Before Sex? <a href="http://bit.ly/MMF6C" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/MMF6C</a> [...]</p>
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		<title>By: kafbst</title>
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		<dc:creator>kafbst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Sep 2009 19:43:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This prayer is truly abysmal.  Sex has indeed become disordered if someone thinks this beauty pageant recitation is appropriate for a husband and wife.  There are two prayers that relate to conjugal sex. One, possibly, is: Lord, grant us a baby.  The other is: Lord, keep me faithful to my spouse in thought and deed.  Of all the times one might need to pray for fidelity, right before making love is not one of them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This prayer is truly abysmal.  Sex has indeed become disordered if someone thinks this beauty pageant recitation is appropriate for a husband and wife.  There are two prayers that relate to conjugal sex. One, possibly, is: Lord, grant us a baby.  The other is: Lord, keep me faithful to my spouse in thought and deed.  Of all the times one might need to pray for fidelity, right before making love is not one of them.</p>
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