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Friday, September 18, 2009, 2:00 PM

The following is from an interview of Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius. It appeared in U. S. News & World Report. (HT: Ignatius Scoop)

You are also a pro-choice Catholic, and I was reading some stories out of your home state recently where one of the bishops took an action. Can you tell us a little bit about that?

Well, the Archbishop in the Kansas City area did not approve of my conduct as a public official and asked that I not present myself for communion.

What did you think about that?

Well, it was one of the most painful things I have ever experienced in my life, and I am a firm believer in the separation of church and state, and I feel that my actions as a parishioner are different than my actions as a public official and that the people who elected me in Kansas had a right to expect me to uphold their rights and their beliefs even if they did not have the same religious beliefs that I had. And that’s what I did: I took an oath of office and I have taken an oath of office in this job and will uphold the law.

Secretary Sebelius, let me introduce you to St. Thomas More, a Catholic public official:

St. Thomas More was born at London in 1478. After a thorough grounding in religion and the classics, he entered Oxford to study law. Upon leaving the university he embarked on a legal career which took him to Parliament. In 1505, he married his beloved Jane Colt who bore him four children, andwhen she died at a young age, he married a widow, Alice Middleton, to be a mother for his young children. A wit and a reformer, this learned man numbered Bishops and scholars among his friends, and by 1516 wrote his world-famous book “Utopia”. He attracted the attention of Henry VIII who appointed him to a succession of high posts and missions, and finally made him Lord Chancellor in 1529. However, he resigned in 1532, at the height of his career and reputation, when Henry persisted in holding his own opinions regarding marriage and the supremacy of the Pope. The rest of his life was spent in writing mostly in defense of the Church. In 1534, with his close friend, St. John Fisher, he refused to render allegiance to the King as the Head of the Church of England and was confined to the Tower. Fifteen months later, and nine days after St. John Fisher’s execution, he was tried and convicted of treason. He told the court that he could not go against his conscience and wished his judges that “we may yet hereafter in heaven merrily all meet together to everlasting salvation.” And on the scaffold, he told the crowd of spectators that he was dying as “the King’s good servant-but God’s first.” He was beheaded on July 6, 1535. His feast day is June 22nd.

(Emphasis added)

(Originally posted on Return to Rome blog)

7 Comments

    John
    September 18th, 2009 | 3:16 pm

    Two words…

    stiff neck

    Sheldon Mann
    September 18th, 2009 | 4:30 pm

    Martyrs of the faith new this very well; we do not get a pass (Acts 4:1-19).

    Chuck
    September 18th, 2009 | 5:26 pm

    I’ll bet she dies with her head attached.

    James Stephens
    September 18th, 2009 | 6:44 pm

    I am curious about Secretary Sebelius’ views on the “separation of Church and State.” The bishop, as an agent of the Church, is free–according to the doctrine–to exercise his office as he see fit without government interference. So if she feels that the bishop’s action somehow violates the doctrine she is standing it on its head. More than likely, however, she is invoking the doctrine to defend her own actions, or lack of them. If she feels that she cannot exercise her own conscience because it is informed by her beliefs then her view of the “separation of Church and State” is most peculiar indeed. Is a pro-life candidate for office prohibited from running because of her views? The bishop called Ms. Sebelius to task for her own personal views, not for those of her constituents.

    Steve
    September 19th, 2009 | 12:33 am

    To be honest, I didn’t really know the story of Thomas More until reading this. That is beautiful, but will we ever have politicians like that again? It seems that JFK made a deal with the devil as far as US Catholic politicians are concerned.

    Tom Cabeen
    September 20th, 2009 | 4:33 pm

    Anyone not familiar with the story of St Thomas More would do well to borrow, rent or buy a copy of the 1966 movie A Man for All Seasons, one of the best films ever made. Its subject matter is very well treated, and it won six Oscars in 1967, including Best Picture, Best Actor, Best Director, Best Screenplay.

    Graham Combs
    September 21st, 2009 | 9:37 pm

    Archbishop Finn (?) of Kansas City was on Raymond Arroyo’s program this weekend. In response to the question why he did what he did, he noted that Gov. Sebelius did more than merely enforce the law; she actively promoted its existence as a believer in the legality of abortion — at any stage. As the bishop said, “she misrepresents” her actions and his. Perhaps the secretary’s motivations are similar to Jon Lovitz’ hilarious parody of Harvey Fierstein: “I just wanta be loved. Is that so wrong?” Well, in this case, it is.

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