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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/01/25/conservative-novels/comment-page-1/#comment-9176</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 22:01:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No Atlas Shrugged?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Atlas Shrugged?</p>
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		<title>By: Sally Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/01/25/conservative-novels/comment-page-1/#comment-8016</link>
		<dc:creator>Sally Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 21:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve always wondered whether English people were really more eccentric than we are, or whether they just have better obituary writers.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve always wondered whether English people were really more eccentric than we are, or whether they just have better obituary writers.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Bottum</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/01/25/conservative-novels/comment-page-1/#comment-7977</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Bottum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 00:42:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Arminius--

Yes, Roth&#039;s whole American Trilogy ought to count. And &lt;em&gt;Rabbit, Run&lt;/em&gt;, and in the pages of FT, Rusty Reno has argued that &lt;em&gt;On the Road&lt;/em&gt; is much less radical than one remembers.

Then, too, &lt;em&gt;Sometimes a Great Notion&lt;/em&gt;, and &lt;em&gt;The Old Man and the Sea&lt;/em&gt;, and  all the better books by authors on NR&#039;s list: &lt;em&gt;Henderson the Rain King&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;The Moviegoer&lt;/em&gt; and &lt;em&gt;A Soldier of the Great War&lt;/em&gt;. And on and on . . . 

And yet, set these sixty years of novels, from 1950 to 2010, against any comparable list of novels from, say, the sixty years of 1840 to 1900, and it looks pretty pathetic. 

That&#039;s a problem, yes?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arminius&#8211;</p>
<p>Yes, Roth&#8217;s whole American Trilogy ought to count. And <em>Rabbit, Run</em>, and in the pages of FT, Rusty Reno has argued that <em>On the Road</em> is much less radical than one remembers.</p>
<p>Then, too, <em>Sometimes a Great Notion</em>, and <em>The Old Man and the Sea</em>, and  all the better books by authors on NR&#8217;s list: <em>Henderson the Rain King</em> and <em>The Moviegoer</em> and <em>A Soldier of the Great War</em>. And on and on . . . </p>
<p>And yet, set these sixty years of novels, from 1950 to 2010, against any comparable list of novels from, say, the sixty years of 1840 to 1900, and it looks pretty pathetic. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s a problem, yes?</p>
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		<title>By: Arminius</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/01/25/conservative-novels/comment-page-1/#comment-7962</link>
		<dc:creator>Arminius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 21:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joseph,

The most glaring omission from the list for me is &quot;American Pastoral&quot; by Phillip Roth, who like Ms. Robinson wouldn&#039;t be caught dead by anyone calling himself a conversative and yet wrote a great novel (one of the best of the second half of the twentieth century) that is full of conservative themes.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph,</p>
<p>The most glaring omission from the list for me is &#8220;American Pastoral&#8221; by Phillip Roth, who like Ms. Robinson wouldn&#8217;t be caught dead by anyone calling himself a conversative and yet wrote a great novel (one of the best of the second half of the twentieth century) that is full of conservative themes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/01/25/conservative-novels/comment-page-1/#comment-7942</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just looked up Jennifer and found her obit - a worthy and amusing read - I did not do justice to her tossing out the teacups.  It also seems to confirm she was a conservative - heh :

http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/obituary-jennifer-paterson-1112008.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just looked up Jennifer and found her obit &#8211; a worthy and amusing read &#8211; I did not do justice to her tossing out the teacups.  It also seems to confirm she was a conservative &#8211; heh :</p>
<p><a href="http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/obituary-jennifer-paterson-1112008.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/obituary-jennifer-paterson-1112008.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mrs. Jackson</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/01/25/conservative-novels/comment-page-1/#comment-7941</link>
		<dc:creator>Mrs. Jackson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 16:24:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow Sally, the more you write about Ellis the more I am intrigued. To your question, yes, this does make complete sense:

&quot;And she had the knack of putting the most severe indictments in the mouths of her protagonists, as revelations of their own weakness — if that makes any sense. Her characters frequently say very scathingly true things, but the fact that they say them so scathingly is understood to be part of their frailty.&quot;

In fact it makes so much sense Ellis will be next on my list.  Thank you. Ellis was at the Spectator in the &#039;80&#039;s?  Then she wasn&#039;t there with Elizabeth David, but there just after David.  Which means she was there with one of David&#039;s successors, Jennifer Patterson. Jennifer was actually the cook at the Spectator. Speaking of not having a dishwasher, Jennifer, one day in a fit of disgust threw all of the soiled teacups and saucers the staff had (rudely) left for her to clean, out the window. The Spectator&#039;s kitchen was on the top floor of the building it occupied. People walking below could have been injured. Thankfully they weren&#039;t.  She was fired. She left. The next morning she was in the kitchen cooking away, acting as if nothing had happened.  They promoted her to writer. Her books are very rare as well but worth finding.  Most Americans of a foody bent know Jennifer as the dark haired (and observant Catholic) lady who died not from eating too much fat but from smoking too many cigarettes of the BBC&#039;s cookery series, Two Fat Ladies.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Sally, the more you write about Ellis the more I am intrigued. To your question, yes, this does make complete sense:</p>
<p>&#8220;And she had the knack of putting the most severe indictments in the mouths of her protagonists, as revelations of their own weakness — if that makes any sense. Her characters frequently say very scathingly true things, but the fact that they say them so scathingly is understood to be part of their frailty.&#8221;</p>
<p>In fact it makes so much sense Ellis will be next on my list.  Thank you. Ellis was at the Spectator in the &#8217;80&#8242;s?  Then she wasn&#8217;t there with Elizabeth David, but there just after David.  Which means she was there with one of David&#8217;s successors, Jennifer Patterson. Jennifer was actually the cook at the Spectator. Speaking of not having a dishwasher, Jennifer, one day in a fit of disgust threw all of the soiled teacups and saucers the staff had (rudely) left for her to clean, out the window. The Spectator&#8217;s kitchen was on the top floor of the building it occupied. People walking below could have been injured. Thankfully they weren&#8217;t.  She was fired. She left. The next morning she was in the kitchen cooking away, acting as if nothing had happened.  They promoted her to writer. Her books are very rare as well but worth finding.  Most Americans of a foody bent know Jennifer as the dark haired (and observant Catholic) lady who died not from eating too much fat but from smoking too many cigarettes of the BBC&#8217;s cookery series, Two Fat Ladies.</p>
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		<title>By: Sally Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sally Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh, wow! Thanks! 

Did I mention that I also don&#039;t have a dishwasher?

Seriously, thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, wow! Thanks! </p>
<p>Did I mention that I also don&#8217;t have a dishwasher?</p>
<p>Seriously, thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Bottum</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/01/25/conservative-novels/comment-page-1/#comment-7920</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph Bottum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sally--I just had mailed to you a copy of Alice Thomas Ellis&#039; &lt;em&gt;Home Life, Three&lt;/em&gt;, figuring you should complete the set.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sally&#8211;I just had mailed to you a copy of Alice Thomas Ellis&#8217; <em>Home Life, Three</em>, figuring you should complete the set.</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 06:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Post-Buckley, National Review seems to treat the adjective &quot;conservative&quot; like evangelical t-shirt companies treat &quot;Christian.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Post-Buckley, National Review seems to treat the adjective &#8220;conservative&#8221; like evangelical t-shirt companies treat &#8220;Christian.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Anne K</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/01/25/conservative-novels/comment-page-1/#comment-7917</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 04:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Conservative in what way? The 4 Twilight books are socially conservative, but they&#039;re apolitical. They&#039;re popular and fun, though not exactly &quot;high literature.&quot; 

Take care &amp; God bless
Anne K]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Conservative in what way? The 4 Twilight books are socially conservative, but they&#8217;re apolitical. They&#8217;re popular and fun, though not exactly &#8220;high literature.&#8221; </p>
<p>Take care &amp; God bless<br />
Anne K</p>
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