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		<title>By: Tioedong</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/02/04/marriage-minus-monogamy-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-9525</link>
		<dc:creator>Tioedong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 01:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You cannot lump together male and female gays.

I suspect most gay women are faithful, and most gay men are not in the long run.

So one could argue yes for lesbian marriage, but not for male couples.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You cannot lump together male and female gays.</p>
<p>I suspect most gay women are faithful, and most gay men are not in the long run.</p>
<p>So one could argue yes for lesbian marriage, but not for male couples.</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen J.</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/02/04/marriage-minus-monogamy-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-8750</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen J.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 22:09:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yeah, but the problem is the first thing a gay couple in Dallas, Texas wants to do is move to San Francisco.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but the problem is the first thing a gay couple in Dallas, Texas wants to do is move to San Francisco.</p>
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		<title>By: Orange County Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/02/04/marriage-minus-monogamy-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-8669</link>
		<dc:creator>Orange County Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 21:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Huston &amp; Travis.

No.  The articles suggests that half of the gay couples in San Francisco were polygamous, not that half of ALL gay couples were.  San Francisco, in general, has more &quot;of the world&quot; views concerning every issue.  So it&#039;s no wonder that fidelity within the bounds of marriage and relationships would especially be under attack.  

Perhaps studies focusing on gay couples in Dallas, Tex. or Orange County, Calif. would render a different, more &quot;traditional&quot; result.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Huston &amp; Travis.</p>
<p>No.  The articles suggests that half of the gay couples in San Francisco were polygamous, not that half of ALL gay couples were.  San Francisco, in general, has more &#8220;of the world&#8221; views concerning every issue.  So it&#8217;s no wonder that fidelity within the bounds of marriage and relationships would especially be under attack.  </p>
<p>Perhaps studies focusing on gay couples in Dallas, Tex. or Orange County, Calif. would render a different, more &#8220;traditional&#8221; result.</p>
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		<title>By: maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 19:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The NYT also published an article citing cheating is heterosexual marriages is between 10-15% depending on the age of the spouse, and the type of survey used.

That last part, i think is huge.  Cheating is a huge no-no in hetero marriages, so much that researchers have a difficult time getting honest answers about behavior.  Why is it that this article is so concerned about the multiple partners SOME homosexual relationships include openly and honestly, instead of focusing on the multiple partners in hetero marriages that are kept hidden?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NYT also published an article citing cheating is heterosexual marriages is between 10-15% depending on the age of the spouse, and the type of survey used.</p>
<p>That last part, i think is huge.  Cheating is a huge no-no in hetero marriages, so much that researchers have a difficult time getting honest answers about behavior.  Why is it that this article is so concerned about the multiple partners SOME homosexual relationships include openly and honestly, instead of focusing on the multiple partners in hetero marriages that are kept hidden?</p>
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		<title>By: Art Deco</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/02/04/marriage-minus-monogamy-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-8488</link>
		<dc:creator>Art Deco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:40:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I guess, given all the propoganda over the decades that gay men are incapable of monogamy, it’s very interesting that at least half the married gay male couples in the Sodom of America&lt;/i&gt;

I see you&#039;re working at it Liam.  If they found that, their findings would appear to be atypical.


http://www.probe.org/site/c.fdKEIMNsEoG/b.4426843/k.9AFE/Heterosexual_and_Homosexual_Marriages.htm#text23]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I guess, given all the propoganda over the decades that gay men are incapable of monogamy, it’s very interesting that at least half the married gay male couples in the Sodom of America</i></p>
<p>I see you&#8217;re working at it Liam.  If they found that, their findings would appear to be atypical.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.probe.org/site/c.fdKEIMNsEoG/b.4426843/k.9AFE/Heterosexual_and_Homosexual_Marriages.htm#text23" rel="nofollow">http://www.probe.org/site/c.fdKEIMNsEoG/b.4426843/k.9AFE/Heterosexual_and_Homosexual_Marriages.htm#text23</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ignim Brites</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/02/04/marriage-minus-monogamy-redux/comment-page-1/#comment-8480</link>
		<dc:creator>Ignim Brites</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 06:32:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Another consideration is that if gay marriage is an open door to polyamoury (is that really a word?), then it is also an open door to Sharia marriage.  I wonder how many of the MSM pundits would willingly deny that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another consideration is that if gay marriage is an open door to polyamoury (is that really a word?), then it is also an open door to Sharia marriage.  I wonder how many of the MSM pundits would willingly deny that.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 05:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What a dreary debate SSM is turning into. Can we not challenge its advocates on a &quot;truth in advertising&quot; basis?  There is no good reason and many bad ones for using the same word (marriage) to describe radically different things.  If gays want civil recognition for their relationships then I say let them have it.  Just don&#039;t call it marriage.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a dreary debate SSM is turning into. Can we not challenge its advocates on a &#8220;truth in advertising&#8221; basis?  There is no good reason and many bad ones for using the same word (marriage) to describe radically different things.  If gays want civil recognition for their relationships then I say let them have it.  Just don&#8217;t call it marriage.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann Roth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ann Roth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 22:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Both sides of the debate might be interested in this article on polyamory:

http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/magazine/articles/2010/01/03/loves_new_frontier/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Both sides of the debate might be interested in this article on polyamory:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/magazine/articles/2010/01/03/loves_new_frontier/" rel="nofollow">http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/magazine/articles/2010/01/03/loves_new_frontier/</a></p>
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		<title>By: robert moody</title>
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		<dc:creator>robert moody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 16:05:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alex, cheating on your spouse IS lying.  Sex is not a recreational pastime.  TomG, you are right about the lack of Catechism but Catholics should know all this already.  Appealing to scripture is not persuasive to people ourside the church who think of marriage as joining a book club.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex, cheating on your spouse IS lying.  Sex is not a recreational pastime.  TomG, you are right about the lack of Catechism but Catholics should know all this already.  Appealing to scripture is not persuasive to people ourside the church who think of marriage as joining a book club.</p>
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		<title>By: Liam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Liam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Feb 2010 15:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess, given all the propoganda over the decades that gay men are incapable of monogamy, it&#039;s very interesting that at least half the married gay male couples in the Sodom of America - where gay culture defined itself most intensely against the broader culture that rejected it - do *not* have open marriages.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess, given all the propoganda over the decades that gay men are incapable of monogamy, it&#8217;s very interesting that at least half the married gay male couples in the Sodom of America &#8211; where gay culture defined itself most intensely against the broader culture that rejected it &#8211; do *not* have open marriages.</p>
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