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		<title>By: Kurdistan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurdistan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:02:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Dear Mr Goldman

The answer to your question and this subject is not easy as there is things has to be explained first, and a thousand word cannot explain it, I will try to point a few facts and I hope these facts lead to the answer.

This subject became an argument about israeil state, which is not the subject, Israel is a country and recognised by UN, the subject is about kurdistan

 Since the first world war and after Lausanne agreement Kurdish nation divided among Islamic Fascist country.
-East is Iran which is an Islamic Dictatorship
-West is an Arab racist government and again Islamic nation &quot;Syria&quot;
-South in the past was an Arab Fascist Dictatorship &quot;Saddam&quot; and now Sunny In middle of Iraq which gets support from other Sunni Arab Islamic country, and Shiia In South Iraq which supported by Iranian State of terror.
-North is by an Islamic Racist country &quot;Turkey&quot; (They have a barbarian history)
The fact is this, governments who established and based on Religion especially Islam do not belive Freedom of any kind under any circumstances, they do not belive Democracy and Human rights, including woman and children rights, we hear from news how many people in these Islamic countries get killed, butchered and raped in their prison, and hanged or beheaded etc....(if you don&#039;t hear it from news because it is not in English)
These four countries do not  look at Kurdish as part of their own people and do all they can to wipe out Kurdish in the region the same way Hitler did to Jews in the WWII. As Saddam used Chemical gas attack as soon as he had it and killed thousands of Kurdish in Iraq.
There was many Kurdish uprising and arm struggle in these four countries to get their rights or separate from them, but they were not successful as the war is not between two nations or two country, it is among one nation and four powerful country. Similar to one boxer fight four other very strong boxers at the same time in the ring, and audience &quot;the rest of the world&quot; watching and cheering for the other four boxers, the one boxer doesn&#039;t have anyone to cheer to him and do not have the muscle &quot;weapon&quot;. But amazingly he has the mental power and courage to keep fighting the other four and still standing against four of them.

If Kurdish nation were living in Europe region or any other Democratic region they would have their own state a long time ago, but what do you expect from Middle East which is ruled by a stone age Religion&quot;Islam&quot; and barbarian Dictatorship governments, which none of these governments were elected by people in a democratic fashion. In Turkey there is election but the military have power over the government and run the Turkish government, therefore there is similarity among Turkey and the other three country. Iran&#039;s last election brought big demonstration to the country but Iranian armed forces killed a few and put thousands to prison, this is the situation.

All the world powerful country never helped Kurdish until recently in Iraqi Kurdistan they gave them some protection, (not help only protection)  but helped Kurdish enemy for the past century and still NATO help Turkey to kill Kurdish using NATO weapon. with out NATO and USA support Turkey is nothing except a bunch of middle age people.

Israel have strong media world wide and they controlled it, some how they never let world media to concentrate on Kurdish issue, because thy thought if Kurdish have a state then that lead Palestine to have a state too in the past, but I am not sure if this will change now or in the future.

Kurdish nation have rights like the rest of other nations to have their own state, they lived in this region they are now for over 4000 years.

It is a big shame on mankind in 21 century over 30 million Kurdish  suffer on daily bases  and don&#039;t have a country.
Why shame on mankind?
We as Mankind are the only intelligent being who live on the planet Earth, Kurdish are humans and have rights just like every other human on this planet.

I have to make this clear at the end, only barbarian or Islamic fanatic terrorist or racist people would not like this truth. their mentality cannot let them to digest what i am telling, for this reason I know how they react to what i wrote here.



Success Story in Iraqi Kurdistan
Since Saddam moved from power Iraqi Kurdish put a massive effort to write a new Iraqi constitution and build a new Federal government in Iraq and leading shitta and Sunny to involve in the Iraqi new Government also preventing Sunny and Sitta from killing eachother while when Sunni were in power killed over half a million Kurdish, but the Kurdish did not want to revenge from them they chose friendship with them, Iraqi Kurdistan is a big success story in the middle east, just because they had some little protection from USA and UK since 1992. but they paid over half a million victim during the time Saddam was in power and around 5000 villages were destroyed by Old Iraqi army, now the Kurdish people rebuilding these villages and over 1200 foreign company are working in the region to rebuild this part of Iraq. Democratic elected Kurdish parliament and president for the Kurdistan Regional Government. managed to produce 100000 barrel oil a day and planing to reach one million barrel a day by 2015. build new cement and Iron, factory, planing to build over 500 small dams 16 medium dams, and four big dams all finish in next ten years, build many highway, under pass over pass, new skyscrapers the highest in Iraq , build three big power plants producing 1200 Megawatt electricity and planing to build three more to generate another 1200 Megawatt. build two international Airports one of them are the longest airport runway in the middle east and fifth in the world builds in the city of Erbil &quot;capital of Iraqi Kurdistan&quot; . also build over 45000 housing unit in the past three years and planing to build 120000 housing unit in the next few years, $15 billion invested in the region in the past three years only, the Arab media call them the second Israel in the middle east because the success is unacceptable by the Arab world.


Note: I am not writing to get some money I am writing to tell the truth.


Thanks,

Kurdistan]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr Goldman</p>
<p>The answer to your question and this subject is not easy as there is things has to be explained first, and a thousand word cannot explain it, I will try to point a few facts and I hope these facts lead to the answer.</p>
<p>This subject became an argument about israeil state, which is not the subject, Israel is a country and recognised by UN, the subject is about kurdistan</p>
<p> Since the first world war and after Lausanne agreement Kurdish nation divided among Islamic Fascist country.<br />
-East is Iran which is an Islamic Dictatorship<br />
-West is an Arab racist government and again Islamic nation &#8220;Syria&#8221;<br />
-South in the past was an Arab Fascist Dictatorship &#8220;Saddam&#8221; and now Sunny In middle of Iraq which gets support from other Sunni Arab Islamic country, and Shiia In South Iraq which supported by Iranian State of terror.<br />
-North is by an Islamic Racist country &#8220;Turkey&#8221; (They have a barbarian history)<br />
The fact is this, governments who established and based on Religion especially Islam do not belive Freedom of any kind under any circumstances, they do not belive Democracy and Human rights, including woman and children rights, we hear from news how many people in these Islamic countries get killed, butchered and raped in their prison, and hanged or beheaded etc&#8230;.(if you don&#8217;t hear it from news because it is not in English)<br />
These four countries do not  look at Kurdish as part of their own people and do all they can to wipe out Kurdish in the region the same way Hitler did to Jews in the WWII. As Saddam used Chemical gas attack as soon as he had it and killed thousands of Kurdish in Iraq.<br />
There was many Kurdish uprising and arm struggle in these four countries to get their rights or separate from them, but they were not successful as the war is not between two nations or two country, it is among one nation and four powerful country. Similar to one boxer fight four other very strong boxers at the same time in the ring, and audience &#8220;the rest of the world&#8221; watching and cheering for the other four boxers, the one boxer doesn&#8217;t have anyone to cheer to him and do not have the muscle &#8220;weapon&#8221;. But amazingly he has the mental power and courage to keep fighting the other four and still standing against four of them.</p>
<p>If Kurdish nation were living in Europe region or any other Democratic region they would have their own state a long time ago, but what do you expect from Middle East which is ruled by a stone age Religion&#8221;Islam&#8221; and barbarian Dictatorship governments, which none of these governments were elected by people in a democratic fashion. In Turkey there is election but the military have power over the government and run the Turkish government, therefore there is similarity among Turkey and the other three country. Iran&#8217;s last election brought big demonstration to the country but Iranian armed forces killed a few and put thousands to prison, this is the situation.</p>
<p>All the world powerful country never helped Kurdish until recently in Iraqi Kurdistan they gave them some protection, (not help only protection)  but helped Kurdish enemy for the past century and still NATO help Turkey to kill Kurdish using NATO weapon. with out NATO and USA support Turkey is nothing except a bunch of middle age people.</p>
<p>Israel have strong media world wide and they controlled it, some how they never let world media to concentrate on Kurdish issue, because thy thought if Kurdish have a state then that lead Palestine to have a state too in the past, but I am not sure if this will change now or in the future.</p>
<p>Kurdish nation have rights like the rest of other nations to have their own state, they lived in this region they are now for over 4000 years.</p>
<p>It is a big shame on mankind in 21 century over 30 million Kurdish  suffer on daily bases  and don&#8217;t have a country.<br />
Why shame on mankind?<br />
We as Mankind are the only intelligent being who live on the planet Earth, Kurdish are humans and have rights just like every other human on this planet.</p>
<p>I have to make this clear at the end, only barbarian or Islamic fanatic terrorist or racist people would not like this truth. their mentality cannot let them to digest what i am telling, for this reason I know how they react to what i wrote here.</p>
<p>Success Story in Iraqi Kurdistan<br />
Since Saddam moved from power Iraqi Kurdish put a massive effort to write a new Iraqi constitution and build a new Federal government in Iraq and leading shitta and Sunny to involve in the Iraqi new Government also preventing Sunny and Sitta from killing eachother while when Sunni were in power killed over half a million Kurdish, but the Kurdish did not want to revenge from them they chose friendship with them, Iraqi Kurdistan is a big success story in the middle east, just because they had some little protection from USA and UK since 1992. but they paid over half a million victim during the time Saddam was in power and around 5000 villages were destroyed by Old Iraqi army, now the Kurdish people rebuilding these villages and over 1200 foreign company are working in the region to rebuild this part of Iraq. Democratic elected Kurdish parliament and president for the Kurdistan Regional Government. managed to produce 100000 barrel oil a day and planing to reach one million barrel a day by 2015. build new cement and Iron, factory, planing to build over 500 small dams 16 medium dams, and four big dams all finish in next ten years, build many highway, under pass over pass, new skyscrapers the highest in Iraq , build three big power plants producing 1200 Megawatt electricity and planing to build three more to generate another 1200 Megawatt. build two international Airports one of them are the longest airport runway in the middle east and fifth in the world builds in the city of Erbil &#8220;capital of Iraqi Kurdistan&#8221; . also build over 45000 housing unit in the past three years and planing to build 120000 housing unit in the next few years, $15 billion invested in the region in the past three years only, the Arab media call them the second Israel in the middle east because the success is unacceptable by the Arab world.</p>
<p>Note: I am not writing to get some money I am writing to tell the truth.</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Kurdistan</p>
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		<title>By: Frank Fredenburg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank Fredenburg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jun 2010 17:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So now you jews are so concerned about Kurds. It&#039;s funny how you became so concerned since the flotilla massacre! Jews care about no one but jews! We have heard for decades how you are so concerned about Black people and the need to defend Blacks from evil White racists. Code for all White people. Why don&#039;t jews fess up and tell Blacks about the part your ancestors played in the slave trade. If you like I can come back with the names of jewish owned slave ships. No takers! I thought not!
 For all of you non-jews reading this, do a little research on the jews religious book the talmud. You want to see a book of hate. It teaches that non-jews are beasts in human form. Check it out for yourself. It also refers to Jesus Christ as a bastard, and his mother as a prostitute. 
 I notice Steven Spielberg didn&#039;t mention the jewish role in the slave industry, in his slave ship movie. I wonder why!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So now you jews are so concerned about Kurds. It&#8217;s funny how you became so concerned since the flotilla massacre! Jews care about no one but jews! We have heard for decades how you are so concerned about Black people and the need to defend Blacks from evil White racists. Code for all White people. Why don&#8217;t jews fess up and tell Blacks about the part your ancestors played in the slave trade. If you like I can come back with the names of jewish owned slave ships. No takers! I thought not!<br />
 For all of you non-jews reading this, do a little research on the jews religious book the talmud. You want to see a book of hate. It teaches that non-jews are beasts in human form. Check it out for yourself. It also refers to Jesus Christ as a bastard, and his mother as a prostitute.<br />
 I notice Steven Spielberg didn&#8217;t mention the jewish role in the slave industry, in his slave ship movie. I wonder why!</p>
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		<title>By: karo</title>
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		<dc:creator>karo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jun 2010 12:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey everyone!

after the dividing kurdish big state in the early of last century in 1920 by the british empire, the kurds lost there hope to have an independant sate like Turks, Arab and iranian,though our job was being harder and harder till today. because today the brutal turkish goverment is much more stronger the the past, and it is more brutal than the past as well as Iran and Syria,that is why i belive our job is more defficult in compare to 25 years before. however in Sougthern kurdistan we have got a kind of semi-independant situation, but we must have had more, as you now today more than 35 million kurds are living in there land in kurdistan , and some of them flew there land towards europe and another places for the political reasons...!! we deserve an independant kurdish state and we are trying to obtain it in the future!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey everyone!</p>
<p>after the dividing kurdish big state in the early of last century in 1920 by the british empire, the kurds lost there hope to have an independant sate like Turks, Arab and iranian,though our job was being harder and harder till today. because today the brutal turkish goverment is much more stronger the the past, and it is more brutal than the past as well as Iran and Syria,that is why i belive our job is more defficult in compare to 25 years before. however in Sougthern kurdistan we have got a kind of semi-independant situation, but we must have had more, as you now today more than 35 million kurds are living in there land in kurdistan , and some of them flew there land towards europe and another places for the political reasons&#8230;!! we deserve an independant kurdish state and we are trying to obtain it in the future!!</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Rostrom</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Rostrom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Neither Kurds nor Palestinian Arabs deserve to &quot;have a state&quot; as Kurds or Palestinians.

As human beings, they deserve to be citizens of states ruled by governments which are responsible to all citizens living in their territories, including any Kurds or Palestinian Arabs.

Iraqi Kurds have this - they are citizens of Iraq, vote in Iraqi elections, and are represented in Iraq&#039;s parliament. Turkish Kurds are citizens of vote in Turkish elections, and are represented in Turkey&#039;s parliament (though there is some interference from the Turkish nmajority). Syrian and Iranian Kurds are screwed, but that&#039;s because Syria and Iran are tyrannies, not because their rulers are not Kurds.

Palestinian Arabs do not have this. They are citizens of &quot;Palestine&quot;, but most of Palestine&#039;s territory (the West Bank) and citizens are subject to Israeli authority, without representation in Israel&#039;s government. That needs to change, eventually. (When Palestinians abandon their mad-dog hostility to Israel.) But unfortunately there are Israelis who want Israel to retain this control of the West Bank indefinitely.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neither Kurds nor Palestinian Arabs deserve to &#8220;have a state&#8221; as Kurds or Palestinians.</p>
<p>As human beings, they deserve to be citizens of states ruled by governments which are responsible to all citizens living in their territories, including any Kurds or Palestinian Arabs.</p>
<p>Iraqi Kurds have this &#8211; they are citizens of Iraq, vote in Iraqi elections, and are represented in Iraq&#8217;s parliament. Turkish Kurds are citizens of vote in Turkish elections, and are represented in Turkey&#8217;s parliament (though there is some interference from the Turkish nmajority). Syrian and Iranian Kurds are screwed, but that&#8217;s because Syria and Iran are tyrannies, not because their rulers are not Kurds.</p>
<p>Palestinian Arabs do not have this. They are citizens of &#8220;Palestine&#8221;, but most of Palestine&#8217;s territory (the West Bank) and citizens are subject to Israeli authority, without representation in Israel&#8217;s government. That needs to change, eventually. (When Palestinians abandon their mad-dog hostility to Israel.) But unfortunately there are Israelis who want Israel to retain this control of the West Bank indefinitely.</p>
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		<title>By: Salar Bapir</title>
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		<dc:creator>Salar Bapir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 09:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Simply because Palestine is occupied by a brutal civilized occupier backed by the hypocrite civilized West, while Kurdistan is occupied by brutal barbaric occupiers favored by hypocrite civilized West!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simply because Palestine is occupied by a brutal civilized occupier backed by the hypocrite civilized West, while Kurdistan is occupied by brutal barbaric occupiers favored by hypocrite civilized West!</p>
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		<title>By: SHWAN HUSSEINI</title>
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		<dc:creator>SHWAN HUSSEINI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 23:19:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[kurdistan is rich???!!!
we have OIL, AGRICULTURE, IRON, WATER, MOUNTAIN, and too many LEADERS with no brain......
we can TALK no body listening, when everybody listening we are SILENT...

    shwan husseini
    from KURDISTAN in UK]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kurdistan is rich???!!!<br />
we have OIL, AGRICULTURE, IRON, WATER, MOUNTAIN, and too many LEADERS with no brain&#8230;&#8230;<br />
we can TALK no body listening, when everybody listening we are SILENT&#8230;</p>
<p>    shwan husseini<br />
    from KURDISTAN in UK</p>
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		<title>By: Ako</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[before colonialism there was not any state in the middle east , Kurds one of the nations fight for their rights to have independent state and they did their best to achieve that and now continue doing but due to aggression of Ataturk that day and other Turkish politicians later that dream did not achieved . Turkish government defend on Gaza and say they are not terrorist but for any Kurdish rights to have an independent state even in moon ! they say : its terror !!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>before colonialism there was not any state in the middle east , Kurds one of the nations fight for their rights to have independent state and they did their best to achieve that and now continue doing but due to aggression of Ataturk that day and other Turkish politicians later that dream did not achieved . Turkish government defend on Gaza and say they are not terrorist but for any Kurdish rights to have an independent state even in moon ! they say : its terror !!</p>
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		<title>By: IHSAN ALI</title>
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		<dc:creator>IHSAN ALI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 19:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. First of all i disagree with the question if the question wants to doubt or denies the right of KURDs to have their nation.
2.I think there are many reasons behind the situation in which KURDs live. There are internal factors concerning KURDs and external factors that concern the neighboring nations and international communities back to the imperialist and occupiers from 1700 of British and French ...etc.

3.KURDS live in Kurdistan which is one of the richest areas of the world,geographically and naturally, strategically, economically...etc

This has been an ambition to all occupying nations in these regions.

4. The strategic place of KURDISTAN between different conflicting countries or empires this required from the KURDs to be either stronger than them or to become the victim, which was the worst inevitable choice.

5. Historically deep rooted hatred from Christian countries like Britian, French,...etc, and also Persians because  of SALAHADDIN AYYUBY has caused the KURDs suffer too much from them.

6. Britians with the aid of other nations for their benefit specially for Britain divided KURDISTAN into 4 parts.

7.Successive bad regimes from these 4 countries have practiced policies of making the KURDs illiterate and out of services and depriving them from their different rights, so as to stay under their rule.

8.Naivety of KURDs believing the foreigners and other nations fake attitudes also was and still is one of the great obstacles in the way of their state.

9. The alturism that KURDs have against other nations also is another internal problem.

10. Lacking support from other nations, being mixed with other nations, leading in wars specially back to 1000 years ago has caused depopulation of KURDs and also caused them to migrate and live in different countries from Sudan, Egypt, Lebanon, Gorgia, Chechnya... etc

all of these didnt help KURDs to become a highly populated nation to reach 100 million which is a great number and a great power.

11. Conflicting interests between KURDs , Turks, Arabs, Persians and International community plays a hypocrite on the basis of their interest so not only they do not support KURDs but they betray them and support other nations.

12. Absence of moral in politics of neighboring countries also increases the torture and tyranny on KURDs.


These are some factors behind the situation. There are other factors of course not mentioned.
But to understand a phenomenon its better to search for the reasons and to go beyond curtains.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. First of all i disagree with the question if the question wants to doubt or denies the right of KURDs to have their nation.<br />
2.I think there are many reasons behind the situation in which KURDs live. There are internal factors concerning KURDs and external factors that concern the neighboring nations and international communities back to the imperialist and occupiers from 1700 of British and French &#8230;etc.</p>
<p>3.KURDS live in Kurdistan which is one of the richest areas of the world,geographically and naturally, strategically, economically&#8230;etc</p>
<p>This has been an ambition to all occupying nations in these regions.</p>
<p>4. The strategic place of KURDISTAN between different conflicting countries or empires this required from the KURDs to be either stronger than them or to become the victim, which was the worst inevitable choice.</p>
<p>5. Historically deep rooted hatred from Christian countries like Britian, French,&#8230;etc, and also Persians because  of SALAHADDIN AYYUBY has caused the KURDs suffer too much from them.</p>
<p>6. Britians with the aid of other nations for their benefit specially for Britain divided KURDISTAN into 4 parts.</p>
<p>7.Successive bad regimes from these 4 countries have practiced policies of making the KURDs illiterate and out of services and depriving them from their different rights, so as to stay under their rule.</p>
<p>8.Naivety of KURDs believing the foreigners and other nations fake attitudes also was and still is one of the great obstacles in the way of their state.</p>
<p>9. The alturism that KURDs have against other nations also is another internal problem.</p>
<p>10. Lacking support from other nations, being mixed with other nations, leading in wars specially back to 1000 years ago has caused depopulation of KURDs and also caused them to migrate and live in different countries from Sudan, Egypt, Lebanon, Gorgia, Chechnya&#8230; etc</p>
<p>all of these didnt help KURDs to become a highly populated nation to reach 100 million which is a great number and a great power.</p>
<p>11. Conflicting interests between KURDs , Turks, Arabs, Persians and International community plays a hypocrite on the basis of their interest so not only they do not support KURDs but they betray them and support other nations.</p>
<p>12. Absence of moral in politics of neighboring countries also increases the torture and tyranny on KURDs.</p>
<p>These are some factors behind the situation. There are other factors of course not mentioned.<br />
But to understand a phenomenon its better to search for the reasons and to go beyond curtains.</p>
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		<title>By: nawzad</title>
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		<dc:creator>nawzad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 14:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[the Kurds are deserving to live in independant Kurdistan as the Jewish ,we both had same bloody history &amp; suffered from occupation, but the Jewish now proclaimed thier own tiny state of Israel ,while the Kurds are still suffers from occupation by Arabs ,Turks &amp; Iranian,for obvious reasons ,first we are unfortunatley follwoing Islam with its backwardness regarding human rights ,democracy and all our occupiers are moslem too ,whom crying from &quot;human right violation by Israel against thier brothers in Palastine &quot;while themselves violating human rights of kurds ,turkeya do not allow the kurds to speak with thier own language.we the kurds never regard ourself as Iraqis ,Iranians or Turks,, infact we call those countries as occupiers ,they are occupying our country(kurdistan)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the Kurds are deserving to live in independant Kurdistan as the Jewish ,we both had same bloody history &amp; suffered from occupation, but the Jewish now proclaimed thier own tiny state of Israel ,while the Kurds are still suffers from occupation by Arabs ,Turks &amp; Iranian,for obvious reasons ,first we are unfortunatley follwoing Islam with its backwardness regarding human rights ,democracy and all our occupiers are moslem too ,whom crying from &#8220;human right violation by Israel against thier brothers in Palastine &#8220;while themselves violating human rights of kurds ,turkeya do not allow the kurds to speak with thier own language.we the kurds never regard ourself as Iraqis ,Iranians or Turks,, infact we call those countries as occupiers ,they are occupying our country(kurdistan)</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jun 2010 05:33:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Gunderson:

Of course.  I think Blacks should ask look inward and confront what personality or political characteristics made others enslave them.

And the Rwandan Tutsi&#039;s should question why they were chosen for genocide.

And as Ben Hecht said, when you are the victim of a robbery you should question why you deserved it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gunderson:</p>
<p>Of course.  I think Blacks should ask look inward and confront what personality or political characteristics made others enslave them.</p>
<p>And the Rwandan Tutsi&#8217;s should question why they were chosen for genocide.</p>
<p>And as Ben Hecht said, when you are the victim of a robbery you should question why you deserved it.</p>
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