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		<title>By: CV</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/09/15/the-social-commentary-of-ice-cream-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-24351</link>
		<dc:creator>CV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Sep 2010 14:13:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Talk about your stupid business decisions.

I&#039;m Catholic and a devoted consumer of ice cream. In fact, my fondness for ice cream veers dangerously into seven deadly sins territory.

But I won&#039;t be purchasing Antonio Federici ice cream, that&#039;s for sure.

I don&#039;t know why they&#039;d want to alienate any potential customers for the sake of &quot;lighthearted social commentary.&quot;

I don&#039;t get it, although you may be right in that far more people in the UK may be inspired to try the product as a result of the ad than those who are offended by it (obviously Catholics are a distinct minority over there).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talk about your stupid business decisions.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m Catholic and a devoted consumer of ice cream. In fact, my fondness for ice cream veers dangerously into seven deadly sins territory.</p>
<p>But I won&#8217;t be purchasing Antonio Federici ice cream, that&#8217;s for sure.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why they&#8217;d want to alienate any potential customers for the sake of &#8220;lighthearted social commentary.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t get it, although you may be right in that far more people in the UK may be inspired to try the product as a result of the ad than those who are offended by it (obviously Catholics are a distinct minority over there).</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Russell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Russell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All well and good. And will they allow a Funny Ayatollah poster?  How about Mohammed eating a hot dog?  For some reason I think not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All well and good. And will they allow a Funny Ayatollah poster?  How about Mohammed eating a hot dog?  For some reason I think not.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Sep 2010 08:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] WhispersPregnant nuns like ice cream and sex, or something&#160;-&#160;New Humanist BlogThe Social Commentary of Ice Cream Ads&#160;-&#160;First ThoughtsSee all 21 blogs. Entertainment - Google Blog [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] WhispersPregnant nuns like ice cream and sex, or something&nbsp;-&nbsp;New Humanist BlogThe Social Commentary of Ice Cream Ads&nbsp;-&nbsp;First ThoughtsSee all 21 blogs. Entertainment &#8211; Google Blog [...]</p>
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		<title>By: 49erDweet</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2010/09/15/the-social-commentary-of-ice-cream-ads/comment-page-1/#comment-24213</link>
		<dc:creator>49erDweet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 22:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no one smugger than a Brit with his knickers in a twist.  Going back to WWII Ike&#039;s policy was to listen fully to the tactics suggested by his Brit aides and then order Allied troops to do something wildly different.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no one smugger than a Brit with his knickers in a twist.  Going back to WWII Ike&#8217;s policy was to listen fully to the tactics suggested by his Brit aides and then order Allied troops to do something wildly different.</p>
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		<title>By: Sally Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sally Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 21:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some of their other ads feature priests and nuns kissing, if that gives you an idea which way they&#039;re tending here. A nun eating ice cream doesn&#039;t seem provocative at all, but a *pregnant* nun eating ice cream is a more in-your-face statement about the repressive ol&#039; (or the blind-and-hypocritical ol&#039;) Catholic Church. And I imagine that by &quot;social issues,&quot; what the company means are sexual issues, specifically. 

I&#039;m actually of two minds about the whole banning thing. On the one hand, the ad campaign is bad manners, which is sort of par for the course for most of the public commentary surrounding the Pope&#039;s visit. Compared with what people are saying, particularly online, particularly in comments on articles and blog posts dealing with this visit, a pregnant nun eating ice cream is very mild. Still:  not very host-city-like, to paper the route to Westminster Cathedral with images like this. 

On the other hand, though I find this kind of thing offensive, I don&#039;t think that &quot;people will be offended&quot; is a reason for limiting expression in an official, governmental capacity. That the government wants to clap the lid on this ad campaign is in its own way as disturbing as the fact that the ice-cream company is determined to be offensive in the face of a ban. 

I am not an entrepreneur in the least, but it seems to me that being more in love with what you view as a controversial (if gently humourous) social-commentary-ish (but really, we just love our ice cream that much) ad campaign than with whether or not people who view your ad, some of whom may be Catholic, wlll buy your ice cream, does not seem like a very big stride down the road to success. 

(though again, it&#039;s quite possible that more people in England would applaud the ice-cream company than would applaud the Pope, so maybe it&#039;s a smarter move than I&#039;m giving them credit for).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some of their other ads feature priests and nuns kissing, if that gives you an idea which way they&#8217;re tending here. A nun eating ice cream doesn&#8217;t seem provocative at all, but a *pregnant* nun eating ice cream is a more in-your-face statement about the repressive ol&#8217; (or the blind-and-hypocritical ol&#8217;) Catholic Church. And I imagine that by &#8220;social issues,&#8221; what the company means are sexual issues, specifically. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m actually of two minds about the whole banning thing. On the one hand, the ad campaign is bad manners, which is sort of par for the course for most of the public commentary surrounding the Pope&#8217;s visit. Compared with what people are saying, particularly online, particularly in comments on articles and blog posts dealing with this visit, a pregnant nun eating ice cream is very mild. Still:  not very host-city-like, to paper the route to Westminster Cathedral with images like this. </p>
<p>On the other hand, though I find this kind of thing offensive, I don&#8217;t think that &#8220;people will be offended&#8221; is a reason for limiting expression in an official, governmental capacity. That the government wants to clap the lid on this ad campaign is in its own way as disturbing as the fact that the ice-cream company is determined to be offensive in the face of a ban. </p>
<p>I am not an entrepreneur in the least, but it seems to me that being more in love with what you view as a controversial (if gently humourous) social-commentary-ish (but really, we just love our ice cream that much) ad campaign than with whether or not people who view your ad, some of whom may be Catholic, wlll buy your ice cream, does not seem like a very big stride down the road to success. </p>
<p>(though again, it&#8217;s quite possible that more people in England would applaud the ice-cream company than would applaud the Pope, so maybe it&#8217;s a smarter move than I&#8217;m giving them credit for).</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Sep 2010 20:35:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If I just saw this ad in the street, I would interpret it as a invitation to not be one of those prudish religious types, to &quot;let your hair down&quot; a bit, and indulge in some high-calorie ice cream I guess that means it&#039;s not a very effective ad.

Even after reading this explanation, I remain perplexed regarding what &quot;social commentary&quot; an image of a pregnant nun eating ice cream is supposed to represent. Is the company suggesting that their devotion to ice cream is analogous to a nun&#039;s devotion to God? Exactly which &quot;social issues&quot; are being addressed here?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I just saw this ad in the street, I would interpret it as a invitation to not be one of those prudish religious types, to &#8220;let your hair down&#8221; a bit, and indulge in some high-calorie ice cream I guess that means it&#8217;s not a very effective ad.</p>
<p>Even after reading this explanation, I remain perplexed regarding what &#8220;social commentary&#8221; an image of a pregnant nun eating ice cream is supposed to represent. Is the company suggesting that their devotion to ice cream is analogous to a nun&#8217;s devotion to God? Exactly which &#8220;social issues&#8221; are being addressed here?</p>
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