Like me, Caspar Melville is bored with New Atheism. It has been good for some things, Melville writes, like creating copy for journalists and arguing against odious “Christian religious fundamentalism.” Regarding the latter:
The origins of the New Atheists’ impulse, according to philosopher Richard Norman, lie in 9/11 and the reappearance of a particularly aggressive strain of Christian religious fundamentalism. If, as Norman also argues, New Atheism can be over-generalising and crude in its response to religion, this is because it is a response to crude and nonspecific articulations of religiosity – what could be less specific than bombing a skyscraper, or cruder than Biblical creationism?
(Um, how about implying that Christian “fundamentalists” (which is often used as code for orthodox believers in New Atheism) are no different from Islamic terrorists?)
But, overall, Melville finds the New Atheist simplistic, not because they make errors like above, but because they make no distinction between “fundamentalists” and those kindly “moderates”:
Because entertainment value aside it is surely false, as well as politically unwise and, well, pretty impolite, to say that “all theology” is irrelevant (some of it is moral reasoning, isn’t it?), still worse to say that “religion poisons everything”, or that without religion there would be no war, or that bringing a child up within a faith is tantamount to child abuse, or that moderate religious believers are worse than fundamentalists because they prepare the ground for extremism, or that “all” religion is this, or that, or “all” faith is misguided, or to suggest that those who believe in God are basically stupid, or that science, and only science, can answer our questions.
“The picture of religion that emerges from New Atheism is a caricature and both misrepresents and underestimates its real character. “Religion,” Richard Norman writes “is a human creation … a mirror which humanity holds up to itself and in which it sees itself reflected. Human beings attribute to their gods all their own human qualities – cruelty revenge and hatred, but also love and compassion and mercy. That’s why you can find a justification for anything, good or bad, in religion.
This may be less fun than denouncing the pope and all his works, but it’s closer to reality. For Norman, as a humanist, the requirement is to be less strident so as to create alliances with moderate religionists on specific topics – faith schools, fundamentalism, terrorism – of concern to all.
So, according to Melville, the New Atheists are good to the extent that they knock down paper tigers but bad to the extent that they fail to applaud “moderates,” which, if Melville is using the common media definition of the term, refers to people who know that specific iterations of religious belief are relative or fictitious but hold to those practices nonetheless? And this is moving beyond New Atheism?
How about dropping the terms “fundamentalist” and “moderate” altogether? I think that would be a good first step.




September 27th, 2010 | 3:42 pm
First off:
Can anyone point to quotes from, say, one of the ‘Four Horsemen’ (not some blogger somewhere) where they say these things?
Honestly, the picture of New Atheism that emerges from Melville strikes me as “a caricature” that “both misrepresents and underestimates its real character.”
September 27th, 2010 | 3:45 pm
Secondly, you imply that there’s a difference between “Islamic terrorists” and “orthodox believers”, and if I understand you correctly, the words “fundamentalist” and “moderate” don’t capture that. What words would you suggest?
September 27th, 2010 | 4:26 pm
Ray:
For orthodox Christians, I’d use “Christian;” for adherents of Islam, “Muslim;” for terrorists, “terrorists.”
For non-orthodox “Christians,” pick whatever fits: Deist, pantheist, agnostic, New Age spiritualist…
September 27th, 2010 | 9:49 pm
Michah – How do you classify the Army Of God or the Hutaree? They’re terrorists (at least, allegedly in the case of the Hutaree) but are there any distinctions of note between them and al-Qaeda?
September 28th, 2010 | 6:42 am
Ray:
The point of the post was to note that Melville, while calling to move beyond New Atheism, seems to be using the same loaded terms to continue to imply that anyone who believes in the exclusive claims of scripture is potentially dangerous.
I am not really interested in noting differences between terrorists groups. Again, if the group is terrorist, call them terrorist. If not, don’t.
September 28th, 2010 | 8:07 pm
I like how Melville casually indicates his apparently primary interest in New Atheism: “One thing it’s certainly good at is generating interest: speaking as a professional godless editor, New Atheism has been very good for business.”
I’ve always thought that money and the cult of personality the high priests of New Atheism have created was their primary motivation. Otherwise, why even bother trying to convince people that something they think exists doesn’t really exist? If religion is really so nonsensical, why pay so much attention to it?
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