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		<title>By: Jaynan Clark</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/02/10/iconfession-for-iprotestants/comment-page-1/#comment-33590</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaynan Clark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 17:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Catholics are Christians. . .. and it is about time that Christians of any stripe get back to the basics, with or without belief in priest&#039;s presiding over one&#039;s confession and absolution, and take seriously not only sin, death and the power of the devil but the powers and principalities at work across this nation that are tearing down the faith fabric of our society and culture.

As the separation of church and state was meant to save the church from the state not the state from the church, responsibility for holding the line and moving forward needs to come from faithful leaders.  I don&#039;t care about their credentials, their pedigrees or their views on infallibility and valid or invalid ordination by succession (Yes, I&#039;m an ordained woman--should you no longer read this then?)  . . .. we are losing the &quot;battle.&quot;  We have made for ourselves &quot;church people&quot; who are not disciples because they have too long been led by those who don&#039;t believe what they preach, teach and confess and long ago ditched the Bible as an antiquated document that was valid long ago but no longer speaks to us today.  Well, if that is who you are then you should not be leading Jesus&#039; flock.

The church as &quot;organized religion&quot; has and is acting as an enemy of Jesus Christ the Lord of the church.  It has intellectualized the story for so long that it is no longer told in order to just &quot;live&quot; as the Living Word of God and have its way with sinners in need of repentance (which is every last one of us).  The mainline denominational leaders have been about stealing away the gift of repentance.  I commend my Roman Catholic brothers and sisters for taking on this post enlightened, post modern America, both churched and un churched through the media---any means you can.  We are trying to do the same in our own small way.  But using the internet and technology as a tool of the faith instead of letting evil use it as a weapon against it and the family and the vulnerable is spot-on. 
 The Gospel of Jesus Christ hinges on His death at our hands on the cross and His resurrection to take back those who denied Him, betrayed Him, crucified Him---and still do. He was sent here to forgive us our sin and save us from ourselves. . . .that basic fundamental of the faith not only needs to be communicate in our vacant churches but taken out on the highways, the wilderness, and through technology.  People are hurting and running from death and suffering into self and immediate gratification and the flesh looking for the divine spark within. It is a dead-end.
 Let&#039;s hand over the real Jesus Christ--their alien righteousness--who comes from outside and saves them from themselves not for themselves, and for His purpose. 
Thank God, for He can and will use the IPhone, IPad, Webpages and anything else if only Hhe had disciples to do His work.  He apparently does---lets do it together!

Jaynan
WordAlone Ministries]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Catholics are Christians. . .. and it is about time that Christians of any stripe get back to the basics, with or without belief in priest&#8217;s presiding over one&#8217;s confession and absolution, and take seriously not only sin, death and the power of the devil but the powers and principalities at work across this nation that are tearing down the faith fabric of our society and culture.</p>
<p>As the separation of church and state was meant to save the church from the state not the state from the church, responsibility for holding the line and moving forward needs to come from faithful leaders.  I don&#8217;t care about their credentials, their pedigrees or their views on infallibility and valid or invalid ordination by succession (Yes, I&#8217;m an ordained woman&#8211;should you no longer read this then?)  . . .. we are losing the &#8220;battle.&#8221;  We have made for ourselves &#8220;church people&#8221; who are not disciples because they have too long been led by those who don&#8217;t believe what they preach, teach and confess and long ago ditched the Bible as an antiquated document that was valid long ago but no longer speaks to us today.  Well, if that is who you are then you should not be leading Jesus&#8217; flock.</p>
<p>The church as &#8220;organized religion&#8221; has and is acting as an enemy of Jesus Christ the Lord of the church.  It has intellectualized the story for so long that it is no longer told in order to just &#8220;live&#8221; as the Living Word of God and have its way with sinners in need of repentance (which is every last one of us).  The mainline denominational leaders have been about stealing away the gift of repentance.  I commend my Roman Catholic brothers and sisters for taking on this post enlightened, post modern America, both churched and un churched through the media&#8212;any means you can.  We are trying to do the same in our own small way.  But using the internet and technology as a tool of the faith instead of letting evil use it as a weapon against it and the family and the vulnerable is spot-on.<br />
 The Gospel of Jesus Christ hinges on His death at our hands on the cross and His resurrection to take back those who denied Him, betrayed Him, crucified Him&#8212;and still do. He was sent here to forgive us our sin and save us from ourselves. . . .that basic fundamental of the faith not only needs to be communicate in our vacant churches but taken out on the highways, the wilderness, and through technology.  People are hurting and running from death and suffering into self and immediate gratification and the flesh looking for the divine spark within. It is a dead-end.<br />
 Let&#8217;s hand over the real Jesus Christ&#8211;their alien righteousness&#8211;who comes from outside and saves them from themselves not for themselves, and for His purpose.<br />
Thank God, for He can and will use the IPhone, IPad, Webpages and anything else if only Hhe had disciples to do His work.  He apparently does&#8212;lets do it together!</p>
<p>Jaynan<br />
WordAlone Ministries</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Melendez</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/02/10/iconfession-for-iprotestants/comment-page-1/#comment-33571</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Melendez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Feb 2011 14:58:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;ve often wondered why journalists don&#039;t just ask members of the church about the meaning of a particularly interesting if confusing new tidbit. Thanks, Joe, for pointing to that Vatican clarification. I&#039;ve seem that clarification cast as &quot;Vatican Condemns New Confessional App&quot; and wondered how the journalists got there. Maybe many journalists just don&#039;t want to know.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve often wondered why journalists don&#8217;t just ask members of the church about the meaning of a particularly interesting if confusing new tidbit. Thanks, Joe, for pointing to that Vatican clarification. I&#8217;ve seem that clarification cast as &#8220;Vatican Condemns New Confessional App&#8221; and wondered how the journalists got there. Maybe many journalists just don&#8217;t want to know.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe DeVet</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/02/10/iconfession-for-iprotestants/comment-page-1/#comment-33509</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe DeVet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:58:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s a curious experience to be a Catholic and read posts like this.  As if I was a lab specimen being examined by technicians who observe me and my behavior and are trying to puzzle out what the behavior means and why I do it.

So the first technician (in this case) comes to a wrong conclusion and duly notes this in his journal.  Then when he gets some feedback showing that he may have erred in his conclusion, he turns to another &quot;non-specimen&quot; to do an independent evaluation and see if he can puzzle out a better conclusion.

The Scientific Method is sometimes a strange and wonderful thing!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s a curious experience to be a Catholic and read posts like this.  As if I was a lab specimen being examined by technicians who observe me and my behavior and are trying to puzzle out what the behavior means and why I do it.</p>
<p>So the first technician (in this case) comes to a wrong conclusion and duly notes this in his journal.  Then when he gets some feedback showing that he may have erred in his conclusion, he turns to another &#8220;non-specimen&#8221; to do an independent evaluation and see if he can puzzle out a better conclusion.</p>
<p>The Scientific Method is sometimes a strange and wonderful thing!</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 17:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;This is, it seems to me, one of the most often disobeyed commands in the whole Bible.&quot;

Well, that opens up a whole can of Protestant worms! Cross the Tiber and obey even more Biblical commands. Good thing that a good ole Catholic practice can help out a Protestant. Catholic practice in general is actually meant for all Christians. 

Love the James quote. Protestants of every kind should be thankful that Luther didn&#039;t remove that &quot;epistle of straw&quot; from the NT.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This is, it seems to me, one of the most often disobeyed commands in the whole Bible.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, that opens up a whole can of Protestant worms! Cross the Tiber and obey even more Biblical commands. Good thing that a good ole Catholic practice can help out a Protestant. Catholic practice in general is actually meant for all Christians. </p>
<p>Love the James quote. Protestants of every kind should be thankful that Luther didn&#8217;t remove that &#8220;epistle of straw&#8221; from the NT.</p>
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