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	<title>Comments on: The Myth of Galileo: A Story With a (Mostly) Valuable Lesson for Today</title>
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		<title>By: The Galileo Myth &#171; anthoblog</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Galileo Myth &#171; anthoblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 23:09:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Alessandra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alessandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[arty,

You should have read:

&quot;You see, the reason I am criticizing your dismissal of *Paisley&#039;s* article is because I find these claims quite interesting...&quot; (not Carter&#039;s article)

From what I can see, Paisley simply summarized the content of Redondi&#039;s book.

===============
Margaret,

You&#039;re welcome! :-) It sounds like a very good read, indeed. If only I had a little bit more free time...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>arty,</p>
<p>You should have read:</p>
<p>&#8220;You see, the reason I am criticizing your dismissal of *Paisley&#8217;s* article is because I find these claims quite interesting&#8230;&#8221; (not Carter&#8217;s article)</p>
<p>From what I can see, Paisley simply summarized the content of Redondi&#8217;s book.</p>
<p>===============<br />
Margaret,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re welcome! :-) It sounds like a very good read, indeed. If only I had a little bit more free time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: John Farrell</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Farrell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 20:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For anyone interested, as a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.farrellmedia.com/farrell_cwr.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;supplement&lt;/a&gt; to Joe Z&#039;s excellent comments, an article I did for Catholic World Report on the topic as well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For anyone interested, as a <a href="http://www.farrellmedia.com/farrell_cwr.pdf" rel="nofollow">supplement</a> to Joe Z&#8217;s excellent comments, an article I did for Catholic World Report on the topic as well.</p>
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		<title>By: arty</title>
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		<dc:creator>arty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 13:57:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Alessandra:

I&#039;m not sure what gave you the impression that I was dismissing Carter&#039;s article, since I mostly agreed with him. But, Paisley&#039;s outside views struck me as relevant, since much of the debate over Galileo affair strikes me as springing from an inability to get clear on the difference between politics and religion, which Paisley isn&#039;t exactly a poster child for.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alessandra:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure what gave you the impression that I was dismissing Carter&#8217;s article, since I mostly agreed with him. But, Paisley&#8217;s outside views struck me as relevant, since much of the debate over Galileo affair strikes me as springing from an inability to get clear on the difference between politics and religion, which Paisley isn&#8217;t exactly a poster child for.</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 16:55:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Very nice post, Alessandra, and thank you for mentioning Redondi&#039;s book. I shall try to obtain a copy. M:-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice post, Alessandra, and thank you for mentioning Redondi&#8217;s book. I shall try to obtain a copy. M:-)</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Sep 2011 14:44:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nick, this is what Rick Perry said: &quot;I think there are a substantial number of scientists who have manipulated data so that they will have dollars rolling into their projects. And I think we are seeing almost weekly or even daily scientists are coming forward and questioning the original idea that man-made global warming is what is causing the climate to change. Yes our climate’s changed, they’ve been changing ever since the earth was born. But I do not buy into a group of scientists who have in some cases found to be manipulating this information.&quot;

When asked to name some of the scientists who question the idea that global warming in caused by fossil fuel pollution, he was unable to do so.

He goes even further in his book by claiming that the science behind anthropogenic global warming is a &quot;contrived phony mess.&quot;

Perry is receiving millions from Big Oil and has clearly been drinking the Exxon/Koch brothers-funded Kool Aid. 

It&#039;s frightening that a potential leader of the most powerful country in the world could be so gullible (or could it be cynical?). In the Galileo metaphor, he is certainly not Galileo who for all his shortcomings was an evidence-based scientist moved by truth and reality to take a position of conflict against those moved by superstition and authoritarianism. 

This issue alone proves that Perry is not fit to lead what is still a first world country. Future global dominance will depend in large part on our technology and education. The race to clean, green, cheap energy is on. If we don&#039;t invest in scientific education, research, and development, China and possibly a host of other countries will leave us in the dust. This is a shame because we used to lead the world educationally, technologically, and morally.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nick, this is what Rick Perry said: &#8220;I think there are a substantial number of scientists who have manipulated data so that they will have dollars rolling into their projects. And I think we are seeing almost weekly or even daily scientists are coming forward and questioning the original idea that man-made global warming is what is causing the climate to change. Yes our climate’s changed, they’ve been changing ever since the earth was born. But I do not buy into a group of scientists who have in some cases found to be manipulating this information.&#8221;</p>
<p>When asked to name some of the scientists who question the idea that global warming in caused by fossil fuel pollution, he was unable to do so.</p>
<p>He goes even further in his book by claiming that the science behind anthropogenic global warming is a &#8220;contrived phony mess.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perry is receiving millions from Big Oil and has clearly been drinking the Exxon/Koch brothers-funded Kool Aid. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s frightening that a potential leader of the most powerful country in the world could be so gullible (or could it be cynical?). In the Galileo metaphor, he is certainly not Galileo who for all his shortcomings was an evidence-based scientist moved by truth and reality to take a position of conflict against those moved by superstition and authoritarianism. </p>
<p>This issue alone proves that Perry is not fit to lead what is still a first world country. Future global dominance will depend in large part on our technology and education. The race to clean, green, cheap energy is on. If we don&#8217;t invest in scientific education, research, and development, China and possibly a host of other countries will leave us in the dust. This is a shame because we used to lead the world educationally, technologically, and morally.</p>
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		<title>By: Nick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:37:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe has done a brilliant job of pricking some skin as the fanatical and ill worded responses have indicated.  However Margret raises a good point.  

The problem is I don&#039;t think Perry would object to, &quot;there is a general case that the planet has grown warmer over the last few decades.&quot;  However, we like things short and simple.  So, &quot;global warming&quot; in most political speech Left and Right has come to mean, &quot;anthropological global warming that can be halted by various means including immediate reduction of carbon based fuel use and a general anti-industrial revolution policy in Western States.&quot;  If Perry meant the former, then yes, he has some explaining to do.  If he meant the latter, well, he&#039;s on fairly solid ground.  Since the latter is the common usage, I&#039;d propose he is on solid ground.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe has done a brilliant job of pricking some skin as the fanatical and ill worded responses have indicated.  However Margret raises a good point.  </p>
<p>The problem is I don&#8217;t think Perry would object to, &#8220;there is a general case that the planet has grown warmer over the last few decades.&#8221;  However, we like things short and simple.  So, &#8220;global warming&#8221; in most political speech Left and Right has come to mean, &#8220;anthropological global warming that can be halted by various means including immediate reduction of carbon based fuel use and a general anti-industrial revolution policy in Western States.&#8221;  If Perry meant the former, then yes, he has some explaining to do.  If he meant the latter, well, he&#8217;s on fairly solid ground.  Since the latter is the common usage, I&#8217;d propose he is on solid ground.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Hagedorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Hagedorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:35:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Is Saint Augustine&#039;s exegesis of the 2nd and 3rd chapters of Genesis correct?  Do a search:  First Scandal.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is Saint Augustine&#8217;s exegesis of the 2nd and 3rd chapters of Genesis correct?  Do a search:  First Scandal.</p>
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		<title>By: Margaret</title>
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		<dc:creator>Margaret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harry, while your point about inalienable human rights is an interesting one, I think the question remains whether or not a presidential candidate can have the humility to be a pragmatic leader and act in the interests of the common good, even when his own preconceptions are challenged. I would be more interested in hearing whether or not Perry can back up his comments about global warming being a hoax with cogent science. I am confident he could not. Is he able to admit that he is not equipped with the knowledge or analytical skills to admit the question is outside his area of expertise and to appoint a scientific advisor to help him. Probably not. He&#039;s too much of an ideologue. His beliefs defy reality. This isn&#039;t about faith and religion. This is about reality processing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harry, while your point about inalienable human rights is an interesting one, I think the question remains whether or not a presidential candidate can have the humility to be a pragmatic leader and act in the interests of the common good, even when his own preconceptions are challenged. I would be more interested in hearing whether or not Perry can back up his comments about global warming being a hoax with cogent science. I am confident he could not. Is he able to admit that he is not equipped with the knowledge or analytical skills to admit the question is outside his area of expertise and to appoint a scientific advisor to help him. Probably not. He&#8217;s too much of an ideologue. His beliefs defy reality. This isn&#8217;t about faith and religion. This is about reality processing.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe McFaul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe McFaul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 21:08:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Declaration of Independence is not an authoritative legal document of the United States.]]></description>
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