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		<title>By: JDD</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/09/12/catholics-sex-discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-49568</link>
		<dc:creator>JDD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*If anything*, CUA can explain, (and in my opinon this is what happened,) that they agreed to go along with the direction the college culture was going - although with some hesitation and misgivings about the consequences - but were willing to try it.  Their misgivings have now been played out and shown to be correct.  What is Mr. Banzahf&#039;s excuse for making the same mistake, now that the reports are in?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*If anything*, CUA can explain, (and in my opinon this is what happened,) that they agreed to go along with the direction the college culture was going &#8211; although with some hesitation and misgivings about the consequences &#8211; but were willing to try it.  Their misgivings have now been played out and shown to be correct.  What is Mr. Banzahf&#8217;s excuse for making the same mistake, now that the reports are in?</p>
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		<title>By: JDD</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/09/12/catholics-sex-discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-49565</link>
		<dc:creator>JDD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 17:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David Nickol,


It is indeed implausible.  And I&#039;m not advocating that CUA claim this argument at all; rather that it discredits one of Banzahf&#039;s supporting arguments.  I doubt such &quot;unawareness&quot; happened before, and I&#039;m doubtful it&#039;s happening now when Banzhaf reasons that bathrooms should be excluded from the policy, (because there&#039;s a concern about privacy,) while dorm rooms should not, (because there&#039;s no such concern.)  I think this argument of his - attempting to explain the &#039;difference&#039; between the two cases - should be smoked.


CUA should continue exactly on their stated course of defending the policy as an obvious means to reduce easy access to behavior which everyone agrees is problematic, dangerous and in some cases in violation of other students&#039; privacy and rights, and they should demand an explicit explanation of the nature of the actual &#039;discrimination&#039; being claimed every time the word is used.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Nickol,</p>
<p>It is indeed implausible.  And I&#8217;m not advocating that CUA claim this argument at all; rather that it discredits one of Banzahf&#8217;s supporting arguments.  I doubt such &#8220;unawareness&#8221; happened before, and I&#8217;m doubtful it&#8217;s happening now when Banzhaf reasons that bathrooms should be excluded from the policy, (because there&#8217;s a concern about privacy,) while dorm rooms should not, (because there&#8217;s no such concern.)  I think this argument of his &#8211; attempting to explain the &#8216;difference&#8217; between the two cases &#8211; should be smoked.</p>
<p>CUA should continue exactly on their stated course of defending the policy as an obvious means to reduce easy access to behavior which everyone agrees is problematic, dangerous and in some cases in violation of other students&#8217; privacy and rights, and they should demand an explicit explanation of the nature of the actual &#8216;discrimination&#8217; being claimed every time the word is used.</p>
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		<title>By: David Nickol</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/09/12/catholics-sex-discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-49525</link>
		<dc:creator>David Nickol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 15:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JDD,

It seems to me CUA would have to make the rather implausible argument that it made the move to co-ed dorms in the past unaware that there could be concerns about sexual privacy, but now it has dawned on them that they made a mistake.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JDD,</p>
<p>It seems to me CUA would have to make the rather implausible argument that it made the move to co-ed dorms in the past unaware that there could be concerns about sexual privacy, but now it has dawned on them that they made a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Smradad</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/09/12/catholics-sex-discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-49498</link>
		<dc:creator>Smradad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Sep 2011 03:35:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This joker is nothing more than a trouble-making rabble-rouser who is incapable of making a living focusing on legitimate legal issues. Not one student or parent at CUA is unhappy with the single-sex dorm situation, but this bozo (who I had the displeasure of having in class---not a very bright man, and certainly the ultimate &quot;bottom-feeder&quot;) figures he can make trouble and in the unlikely event he wins, can submit a huge bill to CUA for payment. As I said, he is incapable of making a legitimate living. Because of clowns like this, it is no wonder we lawyers are the most mocked professions on earth. This guy makes me think Shakespears had it correct when he said, &quot;First, we kill the lawyers&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This joker is nothing more than a trouble-making rabble-rouser who is incapable of making a living focusing on legitimate legal issues. Not one student or parent at CUA is unhappy with the single-sex dorm situation, but this bozo (who I had the displeasure of having in class&#8212;not a very bright man, and certainly the ultimate &#8220;bottom-feeder&#8221;) figures he can make trouble and in the unlikely event he wins, can submit a huge bill to CUA for payment. As I said, he is incapable of making a legitimate living. Because of clowns like this, it is no wonder we lawyers are the most mocked professions on earth. This guy makes me think Shakespears had it correct when he said, &#8220;First, we kill the lawyers&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: JDD</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/09/12/catholics-sex-discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-49439</link>
		<dc:creator>JDD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;It, like any other university or business, can have sex-segregated facilities (e.g. showers and changing rooms) only when concerns about nudity and sexual privacy make it absolutely necessary.


That’s why, says Banzhaf, while most universities have mixed-gender dormitories, virtually none have mixed-gender showers or locker rooms.&quot;


Unfortunately, Banzhaf is greatly mistaken in his apparent view that &#039;there are no concerns about nudity or sexual privacy&#039; in mixed-gender dormitories.  Perhaps this is his most erroneous premise.  It&#039;s certainly a flaw in his argument to explain how &#039;segregated&#039; showers can and should be excluded from the policy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It, like any other university or business, can have sex-segregated facilities (e.g. showers and changing rooms) only when concerns about nudity and sexual privacy make it absolutely necessary.</p>
<p>That’s why, says Banzhaf, while most universities have mixed-gender dormitories, virtually none have mixed-gender showers or locker rooms.&#8221;</p>
<p>Unfortunately, Banzhaf is greatly mistaken in his apparent view that &#8216;there are no concerns about nudity or sexual privacy&#8217; in mixed-gender dormitories.  Perhaps this is his most erroneous premise.  It&#8217;s certainly a flaw in his argument to explain how &#8216;segregated&#8217; showers can and should be excluded from the policy.</p>
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		<title>By: JDD</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/09/12/catholics-sex-discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-49438</link>
		<dc:creator>JDD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 17:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The words &quot;differentiate&quot; and discriminate&quot; are becoming horribly confused with each other in our culture...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The words &#8220;differentiate&#8221; and discriminate&#8221; are becoming horribly confused with each other in our culture&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Nickol</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/09/12/catholics-sex-discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-49429</link>
		<dc:creator>David Nickol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 15:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lawrence,

It seems to me there is an issue with CUA&#039;s single-sex dorms because of the District of Columbia’s Human Rights Act. Unless there is a local or state law that treats discrimination based on gender as strictly as discrimination based on race, I don&#039;t see how Notre Dame would have a problem. Everyone is focusing on Professor Banzhaf, but it seems to me the Human Rights Act is either badly written, or its authors really did intend to reduce discrimination based on gender to an absolute minimum.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lawrence,</p>
<p>It seems to me there is an issue with CUA&#8217;s single-sex dorms because of the District of Columbia’s Human Rights Act. Unless there is a local or state law that treats discrimination based on gender as strictly as discrimination based on race, I don&#8217;t see how Notre Dame would have a problem. Everyone is focusing on Professor Banzhaf, but it seems to me the Human Rights Act is either badly written, or its authors really did intend to reduce discrimination based on gender to an absolute minimum.</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/09/12/catholics-sex-discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-49408</link>
		<dc:creator>Lawrence Cunningham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 12:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[At the University of Notre Dame we have had single sex residence halls since the university went Coed in the early 1970s. Can we expect the lawyer coming knocking at our doors? i served on a committee about the future of residence life and found that a majority of students queried did not want a change to coed residences - men especially see their residence traditions to be as close as they can get to fraternities since fraternities (thank God!) are not permitted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the University of Notre Dame we have had single sex residence halls since the university went Coed in the early 1970s. Can we expect the lawyer coming knocking at our doors? i served on a committee about the future of residence life and found that a majority of students queried did not want a change to coed residences &#8211; men especially see their residence traditions to be as close as they can get to fraternities since fraternities (thank God!) are not permitted.</p>
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		<title>By: KMC</title>
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		<dc:creator>KMC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What RELIGIOUS reason is there for a University to have single sex dorms, as opposed to single sex wings or floors, when they admit academically qualified students regardless of sex or gender??

Surely, the university could find other means to tackle the serious problems of binge drinking, etc among its students ?? 
Perhaps, by TURNING SUCH PEOPLE OVER TO THE SECULAR POLICE firstly, then possible suspension or dismissal of the convicted ones??

Or do all Catholic authorities, university heads as well as Bishops, feel that they can handle criminal matters all by themselves???]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What RELIGIOUS reason is there for a University to have single sex dorms, as opposed to single sex wings or floors, when they admit academically qualified students regardless of sex or gender??</p>
<p>Surely, the university could find other means to tackle the serious problems of binge drinking, etc among its students ??<br />
Perhaps, by TURNING SUCH PEOPLE OVER TO THE SECULAR POLICE firstly, then possible suspension or dismissal of the convicted ones??</p>
<p>Or do all Catholic authorities, university heads as well as Bishops, feel that they can handle criminal matters all by themselves???</p>
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		<title>By: savvy</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/09/12/catholics-sex-discrimination/comment-page-1/#comment-49369</link>
		<dc:creator>savvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Sep 2011 23:46:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What&#039;s wrong with single-sex dorms based on religious reasons, this is a Catholic university?

If someone does not like it they can find a another place.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s wrong with single-sex dorms based on religious reasons, this is a Catholic university?</p>
<p>If someone does not like it they can find a another place.</p>
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