<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Fr. Klein on Forgiveness, Justice, Terrorism, and War</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/09/12/fr-klein-on-forgiveness-justice-terrorism-and-war/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/09/12/fr-klein-on-forgiveness-justice-terrorism-and-war/</link>
	<description>A First Things Blog</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Tue, 18 Jun 2013 23:12:16 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: Allison</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/09/12/fr-klein-on-forgiveness-justice-terrorism-and-war/comment-page-1/#comment-50174</link>
		<dc:creator>Allison</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 20:51:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/?p=34090#comment-50174</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Thank you for linking to me, Stephen Barr and First Things. Fr. Klein&#039;s homilies ARE linkworthy!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for linking to me, Stephen Barr and First Things. Fr. Klein&#8217;s homilies ARE linkworthy!</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Blake</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/09/12/fr-klein-on-forgiveness-justice-terrorism-and-war/comment-page-1/#comment-49208</link>
		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 19:00:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/?p=34090#comment-49208</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[BTW I particularly like this line:

&lt;blockquote&gt;
Telling the truth about history is not bigotry. Refusal to deal with such data does not advance understanding or lead to good decisions. &lt;/blockquote&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW I particularly like this line:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Telling the truth about history is not bigotry. Refusal to deal with such data does not advance understanding or lead to good decisions. </p></blockquote>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Blake</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2011/09/12/fr-klein-on-forgiveness-justice-terrorism-and-war/comment-page-1/#comment-49205</link>
		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Sep 2011 18:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/?p=34090#comment-49205</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[The nation has an obligation to see that things be done as they must for the protection of its people - whether in domestic criminal law or international conflict - but it still seems to me a time for somber reflection, not joyful celebration.

It is right to be joyful when a burden is taken away - &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; a burden is taken away - and an injustice is a burden. To see an injustice corrected is indeed liberating, and thus we have cause to feel joyful.

But IMO we must be very cautious when we celebrate - we must be careful to separate our cause for celebration from someone else&#039;s suffering. To rejoice at the misfortune of another person is just wrong. 

I can be happy to have gained a promotion, but it seems to me very destructive and wrong if I am happy that someone else - someone I dislike - &lt;i&gt;did not get it&lt;/i&gt;. One is a celebration of the positive and the other a celebration of what is negative. There&#039;s a difference and I think that difference needs to be observed.

I do expect our state to do what it has to, in order to take care of us - because a state&#039;s function includes both defense and keeping the peace (which requires that it dispense justice) - but we should never forget that states are not perfect; states make mistakes. 

Of course it sounds crazy to say &quot;we don&#039;t know if Bin Laden is guilty&quot; - perhaps it would sound less crazy to say &quot;We don&#039;t know that it was right to kill Bin Laden&quot;. But we have to keep this in mind - that there is a difference between &lt;i&gt;&quot;We judged it necessary to take this action&quot;&lt;/i&gt; vs. &lt;i&gt;&quot;It is right and, yes, &lt;/i&gt;good&lt;i&gt; that this action was taken&quot;&lt;/i&gt; - because we must always remember that it is for God to judge, not us.

So I guess my position on the issue is that (a) both sides are right, but (b) both sides should also remember that the other side is right, too.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The nation has an obligation to see that things be done as they must for the protection of its people &#8211; whether in domestic criminal law or international conflict &#8211; but it still seems to me a time for somber reflection, not joyful celebration.</p>
<p>It is right to be joyful when a burden is taken away &#8211; <i>that</i> a burden is taken away &#8211; and an injustice is a burden. To see an injustice corrected is indeed liberating, and thus we have cause to feel joyful.</p>
<p>But IMO we must be very cautious when we celebrate &#8211; we must be careful to separate our cause for celebration from someone else&#8217;s suffering. To rejoice at the misfortune of another person is just wrong. </p>
<p>I can be happy to have gained a promotion, but it seems to me very destructive and wrong if I am happy that someone else &#8211; someone I dislike &#8211; <i>did not get it</i>. One is a celebration of the positive and the other a celebration of what is negative. There&#8217;s a difference and I think that difference needs to be observed.</p>
<p>I do expect our state to do what it has to, in order to take care of us &#8211; because a state&#8217;s function includes both defense and keeping the peace (which requires that it dispense justice) &#8211; but we should never forget that states are not perfect; states make mistakes. </p>
<p>Of course it sounds crazy to say &#8220;we don&#8217;t know if Bin Laden is guilty&#8221; &#8211; perhaps it would sound less crazy to say &#8220;We don&#8217;t know that it was right to kill Bin Laden&#8221;. But we have to keep this in mind &#8211; that there is a difference between <i>&#8220;We judged it necessary to take this action&#8221;</i> vs. <i>&#8220;It is right and, yes, </i>good<i> that this action was taken&#8221;</i> &#8211; because we must always remember that it is for God to judge, not us.</p>
<p>So I guess my position on the issue is that (a) both sides are right, but (b) both sides should also remember that the other side is right, too.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>
