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	<title>Comments on: California to Require Judges to Disclose Sexual Orientation</title>
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		<title>By: Artaban</title>
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		<dc:creator>Artaban</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 14:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;I am not sure what you mean here. Are you saying the system is rigged already? In favor of gay judges?&quot;

I don&#039;t know whether the system is already rigged or not--I don&#039;t have enough info to make such a judgment.  But it seems to me as soon as people start pushing for P.C. requirements like this, they are trying to rig the system to fit an agenda.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I am not sure what you mean here. Are you saying the system is rigged already? In favor of gay judges?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know whether the system is already rigged or not&#8211;I don&#8217;t have enough info to make such a judgment.  But it seems to me as soon as people start pushing for P.C. requirements like this, they are trying to rig the system to fit an agenda.</p>
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		<title>By: David Nickol</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Nickol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 10:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Felapton thinks that race matters while David Nickol thinks it doesn’t exist. &lt;/i&gt;

Mike Melendez,

Actually, what I said is that &quot;there is a very good argument that there is no such thing as race,&quot; which is not the same thing as saying it doesn&#039;t exist. Consider this from the OMB:

&lt;blockquote&gt;For purposes of collecting data in the United States, &lt;b&gt;race and ethnicity are cultural concepts and social constructs.&lt;/b&gt; As stated in the current version of Directive No. 15, &lt;b&gt;the racial and ethnic categories are not intended to reflect scientific or anthropological definitions&lt;/b&gt; of who should be included in a particular category. The definitions of the minimum set of population categories under Directive No. 15 include references to color, ancestry, and geographic origins in &lt;b&gt;an effort to approximate social constructs of race&lt;/b&gt; prevalent in the United States.

In line with the subjective nature of the concept, research shows people change how they classify themselves with respect to race and ethnicity. There is significant inconsistency in the measurement of ethnicity particularly. Research shows different responses are summoned by the format of questions (open or specified categories), the number of categories, the examples listed, changes in self-perceptions within groups and among age cohorts, and the political climate.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

As I noted, President Obama had a white mother and a black African father, and in the United States he is considered black or African American. I am not saying his &quot;race&quot; doesn&#039;t matter to him or to the rest of the country. I am saying that race is largely a social construct. If Obama had married a &quot;white&quot; woman, his children would almost certainly still be considered black or African American. This is not because &quot;blackness&quot; is genetically dominant and &quot;whiteness&quot; recessive. It is, I would argue, the result of racism in a society in which, if you are not a &quot;pure-blooded&quot; white person, you are black.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Felapton thinks that race matters while David Nickol thinks it doesn’t exist. </i></p>
<p>Mike Melendez,</p>
<p>Actually, what I said is that &#8220;there is a very good argument that there is no such thing as race,&#8221; which is not the same thing as saying it doesn&#8217;t exist. Consider this from the OMB:</p>
<blockquote><p>For purposes of collecting data in the United States, <b>race and ethnicity are cultural concepts and social constructs.</b> As stated in the current version of Directive No. 15, <b>the racial and ethnic categories are not intended to reflect scientific or anthropological definitions</b> of who should be included in a particular category. The definitions of the minimum set of population categories under Directive No. 15 include references to color, ancestry, and geographic origins in <b>an effort to approximate social constructs of race</b> prevalent in the United States.</p>
<p>In line with the subjective nature of the concept, research shows people change how they classify themselves with respect to race and ethnicity. There is significant inconsistency in the measurement of ethnicity particularly. Research shows different responses are summoned by the format of questions (open or specified categories), the number of categories, the examples listed, changes in self-perceptions within groups and among age cohorts, and the political climate.</p></blockquote>
<p>As I noted, President Obama had a white mother and a black African father, and in the United States he is considered black or African American. I am not saying his &#8220;race&#8221; doesn&#8217;t matter to him or to the rest of the country. I am saying that race is largely a social construct. If Obama had married a &#8220;white&#8221; woman, his children would almost certainly still be considered black or African American. This is not because &#8220;blackness&#8221; is genetically dominant and &#8220;whiteness&#8221; recessive. It is, I would argue, the result of racism in a society in which, if you are not a &#8220;pure-blooded&#8221; white person, you are black.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 04:40:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Of course there is such a thing as sexual orientation. But there is a very good argument that there is no such thing as race.&lt;/i&gt;

If sexual orientation exists, then why does homosexuality &quot;count&quot; as an &quot;orientation&quot; but other forms of sexual deviance do not?

&quot;Because I said so&quot; and &quot;if you have to ask, you&#039;re obviously too ignorant to be worth answering&quot; are the only explanations I&#039;ve heard so far to explain why it&#039;s just self-evident that there is such a thing as &quot;sexual orientation&quot; to describe why some people have maladapted and inappropriate sexual desires with regard to gender, but the same phenomenon does not and cannot explain why some people have maladapted and inappropriate sexual desires of various other types.

Until I hear an explanation that is actually capable of explaining this, I will assume that &quot;sexual orientation&quot;, if it exists, applies to all persons who are born with inappropriate, involuntary sexual desires - or else it isn&#039;t real at all, but is just a political myth made up by a powerful, sexually decadent political lobby.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Of course there is such a thing as sexual orientation. But there is a very good argument that there is no such thing as race.</i></p>
<p>If sexual orientation exists, then why does homosexuality &#8220;count&#8221; as an &#8220;orientation&#8221; but other forms of sexual deviance do not?</p>
<p>&#8220;Because I said so&#8221; and &#8220;if you have to ask, you&#8217;re obviously too ignorant to be worth answering&#8221; are the only explanations I&#8217;ve heard so far to explain why it&#8217;s just self-evident that there is such a thing as &#8220;sexual orientation&#8221; to describe why some people have maladapted and inappropriate sexual desires with regard to gender, but the same phenomenon does not and cannot explain why some people have maladapted and inappropriate sexual desires of various other types.</p>
<p>Until I hear an explanation that is actually capable of explaining this, I will assume that &#8220;sexual orientation&#8221;, if it exists, applies to all persons who are born with inappropriate, involuntary sexual desires &#8211; or else it isn&#8217;t real at all, but is just a political myth made up by a powerful, sexually decadent political lobby.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Melendez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Melendez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Feb 2012 00:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is interesting. Felapton thinks that race matters while David Nickol thinks it doesn&#039;t exist. I&#039;m not sure what to make of it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is interesting. Felapton thinks that race matters while David Nickol thinks it doesn&#8217;t exist. I&#8217;m not sure what to make of it.</p>
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		<title>By: David Nickol</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Nickol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 22:27:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;It seems so genophobic.&lt;/i&gt;

Thomas Aquinas, 

According to Wikipedia, &quot;Genophobia is the physical or psychological fear of sexual relations or sexual intercourse.&quot; I don&#039;t have a clue what you mean or how genophobia could have anything to do with race. I also don&#039;t have a clue what it could have to do with homosexuality, although I am guessing your intention was somehow to mock gay people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>It seems so genophobic.</i></p>
<p>Thomas Aquinas, </p>
<p>According to Wikipedia, &#8220;Genophobia is the physical or psychological fear of sexual relations or sexual intercourse.&#8221; I don&#8217;t have a clue what you mean or how genophobia could have anything to do with race. I also don&#8217;t have a clue what it could have to do with homosexuality, although I am guessing your intention was somehow to mock gay people.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas Aquinas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thomas Aquinas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2012 02:06:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David writes: &quot;Of course there is such a thing as sexual orientation. But there is a very good argument that there is no such thing as race.&quot;

But if someone believes he was born of a certain race, has always had feelings that he belonged to a certain race, and can&#039;t imagine his life without that self-understanding, and thus seems so integral to his character and identity, how can you say there is no such thing as race for him?  Isn&#039;t it somewhat arrogant to tell another person that what he believes to be true about himself is wrong? It seems so genophobic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David writes: &#8220;Of course there is such a thing as sexual orientation. But there is a very good argument that there is no such thing as race.&#8221;</p>
<p>But if someone believes he was born of a certain race, has always had feelings that he belonged to a certain race, and can&#8217;t imagine his life without that self-understanding, and thus seems so integral to his character and identity, how can you say there is no such thing as race for him?  Isn&#8217;t it somewhat arrogant to tell another person that what he believes to be true about himself is wrong? It seems so genophobic.</p>
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		<title>By: David Nickol</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/02/24/california-to-require-judges-to-disclose-sexual-orientation/comment-page-1/#comment-60609</link>
		<dc:creator>David Nickol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 19:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Given that there is such a thing as “sexual orientation” &lt;/i&gt;

Carlo,

Of course there is such a thing as sexual orientation. But there is a very good argument that there is no such thing as race.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Given that there is such a thing as “sexual orientation” </i></p>
<p>Carlo,</p>
<p>Of course there is such a thing as sexual orientation. But there is a very good argument that there is no such thing as race.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin J Jones</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin J Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 07:43:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[California&#039;s ruling party, the Democrats, has a &quot;don&#039;t call it a quota&quot; quota system for LGBT delegates - I believe it is 12 percent. We are witnessing a self-replicating bureaucratic imperative. As much as I fear the results, I would love to see a good study of the quota-like effects this phenomenon has on media and higher education.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>California&#8217;s ruling party, the Democrats, has a &#8220;don&#8217;t call it a quota&#8221; quota system for LGBT delegates &#8211; I believe it is 12 percent. We are witnessing a self-replicating bureaucratic imperative. As much as I fear the results, I would love to see a good study of the quota-like effects this phenomenon has on media and higher education.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 06:30:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s gotten to the point where I&#039;m just looking forward to seeing California crash.

Entities are like people: sometimes they need to hit bottom before they see the error of their ways.

California was a nice place to live, once. When I first left there, people were astonished that I would leave such a place. I&#039;d never met any other &quot;expats&quot;, and most of the people I met had never met anyone who&#039;d voluntarily left California to come to the midwest. The idea was novel. Now, you meet former Californians all over the place, and when you mention being from California originally, people just laugh, and sometimes make a joke about how lucky I was to get out.

So many places run by liberals (unchecked) are either wrecked or on their way to being wrecked. I wonder how much more we&#039;ll have to endure before people figure out that isn&#039;t a coincidence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s gotten to the point where I&#8217;m just looking forward to seeing California crash.</p>
<p>Entities are like people: sometimes they need to hit bottom before they see the error of their ways.</p>
<p>California was a nice place to live, once. When I first left there, people were astonished that I would leave such a place. I&#8217;d never met any other &#8220;expats&#8221;, and most of the people I met had never met anyone who&#8217;d voluntarily left California to come to the midwest. The idea was novel. Now, you meet former Californians all over the place, and when you mention being from California originally, people just laugh, and sometimes make a joke about how lucky I was to get out.</p>
<p>So many places run by liberals (unchecked) are either wrecked or on their way to being wrecked. I wonder how much more we&#8217;ll have to endure before people figure out that isn&#8217;t a coincidence.</p>
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		<title>By: sallyr</title>
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		<dc:creator>sallyr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Feb 2012 05:12:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I wonder how far they want to take the category of &quot;sexual orientation.&quot;  It seems like an ever-expanding universe of categories.  Some news show did a half hour on people who self-identify as &quot;a-sexual&quot; in their orientation.  They have no inclination to have sex with anyone, but they do apparently date people (they interviewed a man who was dating an a-sexual woman).  I wonder if we will ever see an &quot;asexual pride parade.&quot;    (we&#039;re here, we&#039;re asexual - get used to it!!)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder how far they want to take the category of &#8220;sexual orientation.&#8221;  It seems like an ever-expanding universe of categories.  Some news show did a half hour on people who self-identify as &#8220;a-sexual&#8221; in their orientation.  They have no inclination to have sex with anyone, but they do apparently date people (they interviewed a man who was dating an a-sexual woman).  I wonder if we will ever see an &#8220;asexual pride parade.&#8221;    (we&#8217;re here, we&#8217;re asexual &#8211; get used to it!!)</p>
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