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	<title>Comments on: Thomas On Healthcare?</title>
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		<title>By: David Nickol</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Nickol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2012 16:24:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It takes a certain amount of nerve to comment on a discussion between John O’Callaghan, a philosophy at Notre Dame, and John Breen, a law professor at Loyola, especially given the fact that I don&#039;t fully understand what either is saying, but as I noted on MOJ, I believe the idea that &quot;the position that the very meaning of ‘health’ and ‘healthcare’ are subjective determinations of the autonomy of private individuals&quot; is not John Breen&#039;s, but rather that of someone who wrote a comment following a post by Breen, who himself responded:

&lt;blockquote&gt;First, you suggest that the understanding of “health” that I put forth, as a &lt;i&gt;scientific&lt;/i&gt; term with an objective meaning, is mistaken and should be replaced with an understanding of “health” as autonomy that has only a subjective meaning.  That is, you argue that “health” is “what each person sees as the proper functioning of their own body as an integral aspect of their self.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;

So it seems to me O’Callaghan is attributing to Breen a position that Breen has repudiated.

However, I do think that Breen&#039;s original argument—that given his preferred definitions of &lt;i&gt;health&lt;/i&gt; and &lt;i&gt;health care,&lt;/i&gt; contraception has no place in laws dealing with health care coverage—is a weak one. If, for the purposes of legislation, legislators include something in a bill as health care, then legally speaking it is health care. The legislators&#039; understanding (to the extent it is known) of statutes they write is what determines how the statutes will be interpreted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It takes a certain amount of nerve to comment on a discussion between John O’Callaghan, a philosophy at Notre Dame, and John Breen, a law professor at Loyola, especially given the fact that I don&#8217;t fully understand what either is saying, but as I noted on MOJ, I believe the idea that &#8220;the position that the very meaning of ‘health’ and ‘healthcare’ are subjective determinations of the autonomy of private individuals&#8221; is not John Breen&#8217;s, but rather that of someone who wrote a comment following a post by Breen, who himself responded:</p>
<blockquote><p>First, you suggest that the understanding of “health” that I put forth, as a <i>scientific</i> term with an objective meaning, is mistaken and should be replaced with an understanding of “health” as autonomy that has only a subjective meaning.  That is, you argue that “health” is “what each person sees as the proper functioning of their own body as an integral aspect of their self.”</p></blockquote>
<p>So it seems to me O’Callaghan is attributing to Breen a position that Breen has repudiated.</p>
<p>However, I do think that Breen&#8217;s original argument—that given his preferred definitions of <i>health</i> and <i>health care,</i> contraception has no place in laws dealing with health care coverage—is a weak one. If, for the purposes of legislation, legislators include something in a bill as health care, then legally speaking it is health care. The legislators&#8217; understanding (to the extent it is known) of statutes they write is what determines how the statutes will be interpreted.</p>
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