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	<title>Comments on: The Horror of Time&#8217;s Breastfeeding Cover</title>
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		<title>By: JennyC</title>
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		<dc:creator>JennyC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 18:32:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s the title that irks me: &quot;Are you Mom Enough?&quot; Are you kidding me?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s the title that irks me: &#8220;Are you Mom Enough?&#8221; Are you kidding me?</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/05/11/the-horror-of-the-times-breastfeeding-cover/comment-page-1/#comment-64303</link>
		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 12:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;And Blake, there are many mothers who believe that breastfeeding IS in the best physical and emotional health interests of their children, past whatever age you seem to think is appropriate. I won’t venture to speculate on the percentages, but I think you are wrong to assume that no one does it for the sake of their children&lt;/i&gt;

I don&#039;t assume &quot;no one does it for the sake of their children&quot;.

In fact, I would guess that most late breast feeders simply like what they&#039;re doing and don&#039;t see it as a problem, and so they don&#039;t stop.

But when they start getting in-your-face and militant, and/or attacking people who raise the perfectly legitimate question of whether excessive breastfeeding is in fact beneficial - or whether there might be cause for concern - I think that&#039;s an inappropriate response. 

I realize that wanting to study a thing further, or wanting more information, could be a euphemistic way of describing &#039;an agenda&#039; (malicious intent against whatever needs to be &quot;studied&quot;) but I don&#039;t intend that here. I am just saying that we would do well to gather real information - reliable, objective information (as difficult as that can be, in highly emotional situations like the controversies involving the &quot;best&quot; way to raise a child) - about when the point comes where breastfeeding is not only no longer necessary, but actually harmful.

I think we can all agree that the kid should be weaned before he goes to college, at any rate. (That was a joke. Laugh, darnit.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And Blake, there are many mothers who believe that breastfeeding IS in the best physical and emotional health interests of their children, past whatever age you seem to think is appropriate. I won’t venture to speculate on the percentages, but I think you are wrong to assume that no one does it for the sake of their children</i></p>
<p>I don&#8217;t assume &#8220;no one does it for the sake of their children&#8221;.</p>
<p>In fact, I would guess that most late breast feeders simply like what they&#8217;re doing and don&#8217;t see it as a problem, and so they don&#8217;t stop.</p>
<p>But when they start getting in-your-face and militant, and/or attacking people who raise the perfectly legitimate question of whether excessive breastfeeding is in fact beneficial &#8211; or whether there might be cause for concern &#8211; I think that&#8217;s an inappropriate response. </p>
<p>I realize that wanting to study a thing further, or wanting more information, could be a euphemistic way of describing &#8216;an agenda&#8217; (malicious intent against whatever needs to be &#8220;studied&#8221;) but I don&#8217;t intend that here. I am just saying that we would do well to gather real information &#8211; reliable, objective information (as difficult as that can be, in highly emotional situations like the controversies involving the &#8220;best&#8221; way to raise a child) &#8211; about when the point comes where breastfeeding is not only no longer necessary, but actually harmful.</p>
<p>I think we can all agree that the kid should be weaned before he goes to college, at any rate. (That was a joke. Laugh, darnit.)</p>
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		<title>By: Lawrence Cunningham</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lawrence Cunningham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 18:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JFM: the image I saw was a pair of windows once used in a Trappist church in this country but now safely stored away - the sensibilities of the current age are no match for sensuous piety of the twlefth century Cistercians who, as one great critic wrote, gave up everything for God except the art of writing well.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JFM: the image I saw was a pair of windows once used in a Trappist church in this country but now safely stored away &#8211; the sensibilities of the current age are no match for sensuous piety of the twlefth century Cistercians who, as one great critic wrote, gave up everything for God except the art of writing well.</p>
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		<title>By: pentamom</title>
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		<dc:creator>pentamom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 16:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Thank you, Matthew, for your balanced approach to seeing a mother breastfeeding her child.&quot;

The proper objection is not to &quot;seeing a mother breastfeeding her child.&quot;  It is to an unrealistic and exploitative picture that serves to make breastfeeding of older children (not to mention breastfeeding in general) appear lurid and bizarre.

That is why the icons and artistic representations Matthew posted don&#039;t really address what&#039;s wrong with the Time cover.

And Blake, there are many mothers who believe that breastfeeding IS in the best physical and emotional  health interests of their children, past whatever age you seem to think is appropriate. I won&#039;t venture to speculate on the percentages, but I think you are wrong to assume that no one does it for the sake of their children. You don&#039;t need to justify it by &quot;necessity for survival&quot; if in fact it has genuine benefits and only potential, not necessary, harm. Some twisted person doing something does not endanger the mental or moral health of a child whose mother is not twisted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thank you, Matthew, for your balanced approach to seeing a mother breastfeeding her child.&#8221;</p>
<p>The proper objection is not to &#8220;seeing a mother breastfeeding her child.&#8221;  It is to an unrealistic and exploitative picture that serves to make breastfeeding of older children (not to mention breastfeeding in general) appear lurid and bizarre.</p>
<p>That is why the icons and artistic representations Matthew posted don&#8217;t really address what&#8217;s wrong with the Time cover.</p>
<p>And Blake, there are many mothers who believe that breastfeeding IS in the best physical and emotional  health interests of their children, past whatever age you seem to think is appropriate. I won&#8217;t venture to speculate on the percentages, but I think you are wrong to assume that no one does it for the sake of their children. You don&#8217;t need to justify it by &#8220;necessity for survival&#8221; if in fact it has genuine benefits and only potential, not necessary, harm. Some twisted person doing something does not endanger the mental or moral health of a child whose mother is not twisted.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 07:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;mothering is not disgusting&lt;/i&gt;

Actually mothering that we view as healthy is not disgusting - if anything, we get the same response we get in the presence of the sacred (which is IMO a lot to do with why people don&#039;t want to look at breastfeeding moms).

But unhealthy mothering does raise revulsion in us, and rightly so.

If you or someone you know is mothering in a way that routinely repulses others, you might want to take a cold hard look at your assumptions, your motives, and exactly why you are justifying engaging in practices that others find disturbing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>mothering is not disgusting</i></p>
<p>Actually mothering that we view as healthy is not disgusting &#8211; if anything, we get the same response we get in the presence of the sacred (which is IMO a lot to do with why people don&#8217;t want to look at breastfeeding moms).</p>
<p>But unhealthy mothering does raise revulsion in us, and rightly so.</p>
<p>If you or someone you know is mothering in a way that routinely repulses others, you might want to take a cold hard look at your assumptions, your motives, and exactly why you are justifying engaging in practices that others find disturbing.</p>
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		<title>By: Dr Rosemary Eileen McHugh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dr Rosemary Eileen McHugh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 21:30:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thankyou, Matthew, for your balanced approach to seeing a mother breastfeeding her child. You give the mother the freedom to do what she feels is right for her and her child, as you introduce us to historic portraits of Mary breastfeeding Jesus.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thankyou, Matthew, for your balanced approach to seeing a mother breastfeeding her child. You give the mother the freedom to do what she feels is right for her and her child, as you introduce us to historic portraits of Mary breastfeeding Jesus.</p>
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		<title>By: jfm</title>
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		<dc:creator>jfm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 16:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Lawrence, I love the painting of Alonzo Cano&#039;s painting of Mary squirting breast milk into Bernard of Clarivaux&#039;s mouth.  Saw it recently at the Prado.  She&#039;s got great aim.  Mary knows how to care for each of us.

http://imaginemdei.blogspot.com/2011/08/st-bernard-of-clairvaux-mellifluous.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lawrence, I love the painting of Alonzo Cano&#8217;s painting of Mary squirting breast milk into Bernard of Clarivaux&#8217;s mouth.  Saw it recently at the Prado.  She&#8217;s got great aim.  Mary knows how to care for each of us.</p>
<p><a href="http://imaginemdei.blogspot.com/2011/08/st-bernard-of-clairvaux-mellifluous.html" rel="nofollow">http://imaginemdei.blogspot.com/2011/08/st-bernard-of-clairvaux-mellifluous.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: On Time Magazine&#8217;s Breastfeeding Cover &#124; Instinctive Philosophies</title>
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		<dc:creator>On Time Magazine&#8217;s Breastfeeding Cover &#124; Instinctive Philosophies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 00:40:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] haven&#8217;t seen Matthew Schmitz&#8217;s posting on First Thoughts: A First Things Blog entitled The Horror of Time&#8217;s Breastfeeding Cover.  Check it out.  I promise, it&#8217;s not what you fear it&#8217;s going to be. Share [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] haven&#8217;t seen Matthew Schmitz&#8217;s posting on First Thoughts: A First Things Blog entitled The Horror of Time&#8217;s Breastfeeding Cover.  Check it out.  I promise, it&#8217;s not what you fear it&#8217;s going to be. Share [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony Tackman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony Tackman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 21:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Beside the point, David. The same defense is being utilized to defend what is tasteless and shocking, then. Feel better?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Beside the point, David. The same defense is being utilized to defend what is tasteless and shocking, then. Feel better?</p>
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		<title>By: Lyra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lyra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 May 2012 21:21:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[mothering is not disgusting]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mothering is not disgusting</p>
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