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	<title>Comments on: Men, Abortion, and Hemingway</title>
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		<title>By: tioedong</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/08/01/men-abortion-and-hemingway/comment-page-1/#comment-68207</link>
		<dc:creator>tioedong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 01:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Harlan Ellison&#039;s powerful short story &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatoan_%28Ellison%29&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Croatoan&lt;/a&gt; was written to exorcize his guilt after a woman aborted his child...it is about our throw away culture, but also about the possibility of redemption.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harlan Ellison&#8217;s powerful short story <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatoan_%28Ellison%29" rel="nofollow">Croatoan</a> was written to exorcize his guilt after a woman aborted his child&#8230;it is about our throw away culture, but also about the possibility of redemption.</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/08/01/men-abortion-and-hemingway/comment-page-1/#comment-68205</link>
		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Aug 2012 01:44:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Would this lower the abortion rate?&lt;/i&gt;


Maybe we could lower the abortion rate if we&#039;d start recognizing the reality of the grief (and stop playing along with the people who want to minimize and deny the parts they don&#039;t like). 

When people come into contact with abortion, it hurts them. It hurts the women who get abortions, and it hurts the men whose children are aborted, and it hurts the grandparents, aunts and uncles when they know or suspect, and it hurts the people who perform the procedure.

Abortion can only flourish in a culture where people are so dead or broken inside that they can&#039;t acknowledge or experience any new pain. Living, healthy people cannot be comfortable with killing humanity&#039;s future. 

The correct response to unwanted babies is (a) to stop making babies that one does not want and (b) to find a real solution to caring for the ones that are created. You do not &quot;cure&quot; a social problem by killing all the people who are associated with that problem.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Would this lower the abortion rate?</i></p>
<p>Maybe we could lower the abortion rate if we&#8217;d start recognizing the reality of the grief (and stop playing along with the people who want to minimize and deny the parts they don&#8217;t like). </p>
<p>When people come into contact with abortion, it hurts them. It hurts the women who get abortions, and it hurts the men whose children are aborted, and it hurts the grandparents, aunts and uncles when they know or suspect, and it hurts the people who perform the procedure.</p>
<p>Abortion can only flourish in a culture where people are so dead or broken inside that they can&#8217;t acknowledge or experience any new pain. Living, healthy people cannot be comfortable with killing humanity&#8217;s future. </p>
<p>The correct response to unwanted babies is (a) to stop making babies that one does not want and (b) to find a real solution to caring for the ones that are created. You do not &#8220;cure&#8221; a social problem by killing all the people who are associated with that problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/08/01/men-abortion-and-hemingway/comment-page-1/#comment-68201</link>
		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 21:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A group here in NYC holds monthly, peaceful prayer vigils in front of one of the Planned Parenthood facilities. Afterwards we have a re-cap with the sidewalk counselors about what happened that particular morning, and to my surprise, for the past few months the people most willing to talk to the counselors have been men-- the fathers of the children. Seeing grown men break down in tears in front of the facility is not only heartbreaking but a sure sign of the larger impact you mention above.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A group here in NYC holds monthly, peaceful prayer vigils in front of one of the Planned Parenthood facilities. Afterwards we have a re-cap with the sidewalk counselors about what happened that particular morning, and to my surprise, for the past few months the people most willing to talk to the counselors have been men&#8211; the fathers of the children. Seeing grown men break down in tears in front of the facility is not only heartbreaking but a sure sign of the larger impact you mention above.</p>
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		<title>By: Signs of the Times &#124; The Blog of Salvo Magazine</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/08/01/men-abortion-and-hemingway/comment-page-1/#comment-68197</link>
		<dc:creator>Signs of the Times &#124; The Blog of Salvo Magazine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 21:01:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Read Matthew Cantirino&#8217;s thoughts on the article over on the blog of First Things here. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Read Matthew Cantirino&#8217;s thoughts on the article over on the blog of First Things here. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: David Nickol</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/08/01/men-abortion-and-hemingway/comment-page-1/#comment-68184</link>
		<dc:creator>David Nickol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Aug 2012 19:26:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So what is to be done? If we accept the findings of those who claim that women (and now men) suffer serious consequences when they choose abortion, suppose yet more informed consent laws are passed and everyone seeking an abortion is inundated with information and warnings. Would this lower the abortion rate? I rather doubt it. I think people need to be given concrete alternatives. Or is the point of this information that abortion should be banned to prevent people from freely making choices they might regret later—that is, to protect people from themselves?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So what is to be done? If we accept the findings of those who claim that women (and now men) suffer serious consequences when they choose abortion, suppose yet more informed consent laws are passed and everyone seeking an abortion is inundated with information and warnings. Would this lower the abortion rate? I rather doubt it. I think people need to be given concrete alternatives. Or is the point of this information that abortion should be banned to prevent people from freely making choices they might regret later—that is, to protect people from themselves?</p>
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