Comments on: Romney’s Framing Problem

By: publius

publius — Mon, 13 Aug 2012 22:48:27 +0000

J.W.,

Yes, we can’t both be right, which means you are wrong.

By: J.W. Cox

J.W. Cox — Mon, 13 Aug 2012 18:05:50 +0000

Publius: we can’t both be right. You’re saying that “social location” is merely a substitute term for “class.” That is, the former means the latter.

I’m saying it does not.

By: publius

publius — Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:17:19 +0000

“Romney has shown no gift for connecting” to the actual concerns of the unemployed or those worried about losing their jobs partly because he’s been accused of killing the wife of a laid-off steel worker and not paying his taxes for ten years, as the Senate Majority Leader informs us. No amount of personal “gifts” can overcome lies propagated by those with no regard for decency, aided and abetted by a media determined to keep the incumbent president in office.

By: David Mills

David Mills — Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:54:10 +0000

Conservatives should hope that Josh323 and J. W. Cox are right. Romney has shown no gift for connecting any broader or higher understanding of the economy with the actual concerns of people who can’t find jobs or worry about losing the ones they have — assuming he has a higher view of economic life — who are the voters he needs to attract to win states like Ohio and Pennsylvania.

By: publius

publius — Mon, 13 Aug 2012 14:22:40 +0000

J.W.,

Yes, you’re right, it’s a much less offensive euphemism for class.

By: J.W. Cox

J.W. Cox — Mon, 13 Aug 2012 13:53:22 +0000

I agree with blogger’s assessment of the temptation to which some conservative punditerati are prone.

But…1) I agree with Josh’s point: Ryan has repeatedly won re-election in a strongly Democratic and working class district. The intriguing connection is that “Ryan Plan” and his proposals more generally arise precisely from the fact that he IS connected with pressing and practical concerns of voters.
2) Ryan is no shrinking violet, from what I can see. Romney seems to have chosen someone who can and will and presumably expects to contribute to the campaign — precisely on the “framing” question, which was the blogger’s starting point. I’m intrigued by that in Romney’s decision.

Finally, re Publius’ criticism: I don’t think “social location” means “class.”

By: Publius

Publius — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 20:42:30 +0000

What a sophomoric piece … Class determines one’s worldview and blinds you to the truth. That’s a new one.

By: Michael PS

Michael PS — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 10:58:52 +0000

The contempt – much of it well merited – in which the people hold the political class in most Western countries is the result, not so much of their venality and incompetence, but, rather, of a general sense that government is no longer the consummated result of the people’s own organized wishes.

The slogan of the Argentinean protestors, ¡Que Se Vayan Todos! [They must all go] finds a resonance in many voters

By: Joe DeVet

Joe DeVet — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 00:37:45 +0000

I don’t think the author of this post is quite right. Romney and the campaign are not out of tune with the needs of the common man and his economic woes. A healthy economy is most relevant to those needs, and that is precisely what Romney is best capable of delivering–and what his choice of Paul Ryan confirms.

There is always the problem of communicating that vision, especially through the fog of media which start with the presumption that all problems are for the government to solve by ever larger direction of funds (ie, “throwing money at them.”) But I think the electorate demonstrated that they understand the real problem with this economy, by choices they made in the 2010 election–choices that are being echoed now in the primaries, eg, the nominating of Ted Cruz for Senator from Texas.

By: Josh323

Josh323 — Sun, 12 Aug 2012 00:20:38 +0000

Except that a Congressman like Paul Ryan who is more in tune with his local constituencies, can “frame” the bread and butter issues into this grand transformational moment narrative. Even The Weekly Standard Blog noticed Ryan’s “ability to sound a genuine conservative populist note.”