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	<title>Comments on: Hanna Rosin&#8217;s Wildly Misleading TED Talk</title>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2012 16:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;I’d say “we” need to get a better handle on ‘degrees of confidence’. Some things are well-established, some things are probable, some are tentative. Accurately distinguishing between those is the trick.&lt;/i&gt;

Yes, and that is exactly why science needs to evolve.

Right now, it uses the same language to describe things in all these categories - thus the minute a group of scientists come to a consensus on something, it is just as &quot;well-established&quot; as something that has been proven through hundreds of years of practical application - but just because the scientific community uses language that suggests a thing is proven beyond dispute doesn&#039;t mean it is, and it doesn&#039;t mean they&#039;ll accept responsibility when their &quot;proven beyond dispute&quot; factoid turns out to be responsible for lots of bad things happening.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I’d say “we” need to get a better handle on ‘degrees of confidence’. Some things are well-established, some things are probable, some are tentative. Accurately distinguishing between those is the trick.</i></p>
<p>Yes, and that is exactly why science needs to evolve.</p>
<p>Right now, it uses the same language to describe things in all these categories &#8211; thus the minute a group of scientists come to a consensus on something, it is just as &#8220;well-established&#8221; as something that has been proven through hundreds of years of practical application &#8211; but just because the scientific community uses language that suggests a thing is proven beyond dispute doesn&#8217;t mean it is, and it doesn&#8217;t mean they&#8217;ll accept responsibility when their &#8220;proven beyond dispute&#8221; factoid turns out to be responsible for lots of bad things happening.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave "Dblade" Dutcher</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/08/14/hanna-rosins-wildly-misleading-ted-talk/comment-page-1/#comment-69188</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave "Dblade" Dutcher</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2012 08:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know about all the statistics, but the cultural ascendance of women isn&#039;t something imagined. The best seller lists have been dominated by books targeted to women over the past few years, more women do attend college and church, and women in general seem to be handling the knowledge economy slightly better than men at equivalent levels.

She may have had bad or incomplete social science, but I think she&#039;s on to something that pointing out flaws in this specific methodology can&#039;t erase.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know about all the statistics, but the cultural ascendance of women isn&#8217;t something imagined. The best seller lists have been dominated by books targeted to women over the past few years, more women do attend college and church, and women in general seem to be handling the knowledge economy slightly better than men at equivalent levels.</p>
<p>She may have had bad or incomplete social science, but I think she&#8217;s on to something that pointing out flaws in this specific methodology can&#8217;t erase.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Ingles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Ingles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2012 13:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Blake - &lt;blockquote&gt;Either science needs to evolve or we do.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;d say &quot;we&quot; need to get a better handle on &#039;degrees of confidence&#039;. Some things are well-established, some things are probable, some are tentative. Accurately distinguishing between those is the trick.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blake &#8211;<br />
<blockquote>Either science needs to evolve or we do.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;d say &#8220;we&#8221; need to get a better handle on &#8216;degrees of confidence&#8217;. Some things are well-established, some things are probable, some are tentative. Accurately distinguishing between those is the trick.</p>
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		<title>By: sally rogers</title>
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		<dc:creator>sally rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is fun stuff.  Women dominate everything.  Resistance is futile.    

Next up on TED:  Babies most powerful people in the world.  They bend all to their wills. Resistance?  Futile.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is fun stuff.  Women dominate everything.  Resistance is futile.    </p>
<p>Next up on TED:  Babies most powerful people in the world.  They bend all to their wills. Resistance?  Futile.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 22:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The average citizen only knows enough science to know that they should trust the &quot;experts.&quot;  Thus, if you can define who the experts are (which is basically what TED does), then you can define the &quot;facts.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The average citizen only knows enough science to know that they should trust the &#8220;experts.&#8221;  Thus, if you can define who the experts are (which is basically what TED does), then you can define the &#8220;facts.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Blake</title>
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		<dc:creator>Blake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Aug 2012 18:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Religious and moral considerations are disparaged in favor of the finding of science, which, far from telling us what to do, is twisted in order to tell us whatever its interpreters were hoping to hear. &lt;/i&gt;

Either science needs to evolve or we do.

Right now, science is on its way to becoming meaningless, because fact is being freely confused with opinion, values, beliefs, and desires.

Hardly anyone realizes that studies are invariably &quot;conditional&quot; - that is, they give us information, but that information is only meaningful if it is understood within a strict context. Too many people don&#039;t know how to defend themselves against people who, out of ignorance or malice, reduce scientifically gathered observations into unsupported partisan assertions - either X is clearly, obviously, self-evidently true (don&#039;t read the fine print), or the study that gives us X is clearly, obviously, self-evidently crooked (because if you read the fine print you find that there are caveats and limitations - therefore, we are told, the whole study should be disqualified, because otherwise people might take it as representing &quot;truth&quot;).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Religious and moral considerations are disparaged in favor of the finding of science, which, far from telling us what to do, is twisted in order to tell us whatever its interpreters were hoping to hear. </i></p>
<p>Either science needs to evolve or we do.</p>
<p>Right now, science is on its way to becoming meaningless, because fact is being freely confused with opinion, values, beliefs, and desires.</p>
<p>Hardly anyone realizes that studies are invariably &#8220;conditional&#8221; &#8211; that is, they give us information, but that information is only meaningful if it is understood within a strict context. Too many people don&#8217;t know how to defend themselves against people who, out of ignorance or malice, reduce scientifically gathered observations into unsupported partisan assertions &#8211; either X is clearly, obviously, self-evidently true (don&#8217;t read the fine print), or the study that gives us X is clearly, obviously, self-evidently crooked (because if you read the fine print you find that there are caveats and limitations &#8211; therefore, we are told, the whole study should be disqualified, because otherwise people might take it as representing &#8220;truth&#8221;).</p>
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