I did write what you wrote, including the part you cut out. So I wrote the response, part of which you cut out.

You are not making any sense. I don’t understand what you are trying to get at.”

Well, I wrote a comprehensive response, which did not get through, so I wrote this shorter one. I believed the the reference to a person here caused its denial. But you’re forcing my hand here. So let me tell you. HarrietJ has said that she would be pleased if gay people (and their supporters) were “exported”/deported. I told her that this is unlikely to be something supported by Jesus. You entered the debate and started talking about irrelevant matters like adultery. So now I’m asking you, do you believe that Jesus would support HarrietJ’s comments about “exporting”/deporting gay people and anyone who believes in fair treatment for them?

Please make your point clear.

You are not making any sense. I don’t understand what you are trying to get at.

Maximilian: “You admit that you would favor life imprisonment for gay people,”

Care to read what I wrote? I guess not.

Why read what other people write if your objective is to smear them with your rants?

I do not suppose Jesus would approve of deporting or criminalization gay people, would he?

This is an example of what is called “black and white thinking”. You seem to be suggesting that because gays are in fact persecuted, it is therefore impossible that HarrietJ’s claims of unfair treatment could have any merit.

It is possible that both gays are persecuted and HarrietJ could be the victim of some mistreatment.

Justice demands that each claim needs to be treated individually.

Jesus was never a teddy bear who could be made into whatever you want him to be. He was a guy with clear-cut views on how to behave. The fact that he opposed stoning people didn’t mean he thought adultery was okay. And I don’t think the man who walked on Earth – the man described in the Bible – would be okay with using “love” as a euphemism for indulging sin.

Everyone has the right to their own beliefs about God, of course, but then that goes for HarrietJ as well as anyone else. But to the extent that we are relying on what we know about Jesus, we are to “love the sinner but hate the sin”.

There is nothing “loving” about pretending that something is healthy and victimless if it isn’t. In fact, it is downright hateful to justify and excuse a behavior if you believe in your heart that the behavior is unhealthy and destructive.

Spare us the soap opera. There is no ethics or justice with your harmful homosexuality agenda.

“love thy neighbor as thyself”

Let’s see you demonstrate a little brotherly love to the FRC. I see none of it.

Try this for a quote: Go, and sin no more.

“A bill that does not normalize homosexuality does uphold moral conduct. (…) The FRC is not in favor of killing people with a homosexual problem”

If not, Tony Perkins would not call a law for killing gay people one “uphold[ing] moral conduct”. And that for a pro-lifer! Hah.

“So Maximilian doesn’t think that a person who has a homosexual problem and sexually abuses a minor or someone with a disability is perverted? ”

Like everyone else who opposes this law, I have a problem with the “repeat offenders”-part. Anyone convicted for the second time for offenses under this act, is liable to receive the death penalty.

“While one can debate whether capital punishment is warranted”

It is warranted, in fact imperative, for child molesters. It is not warranted for gay people, as the Uganda bill does, and as the part you quoted clearly shows.

“Personally, I’m not in favor of life imprisonment. The question of criminalization of homosexual activity is just what homosexual activists yearn for to paint anyone who suggests it as the same as Himmler.”

So you would advocate for putting gay people in jail, it’s just that you fear being painted as evil?

“In the US, it’s the people pushing for a harmful homosexuality agenda who claim they have the right to destroy society and the rights of anyone who objects.”

Yes, you’re the one who is persecuted. You openly advocate for deporting gay people, and anyone who believes in fairness for them, and yet you’re the victim. You admit that you would favor life imprisonment for gay people, except that it would be used against you, and yet you’re the victim.

My heart aches for Jesus. How his noble teachings have been reduced to… this. Whoever knew that “love thy neighbor as thyself” meant the things that you are advocating?

“Aggravated homosexuality” is defined to include homosexual acts committed by a person who is HIV-positive, is a parent or authority figure, or who administers intoxicating substances, homosexual acts committed on minors or people with disabilities, and repeat offenders.”

So Maximilian doesn’t think that a person who has a homosexual problem and sexually abuses a minor or someone with a disability is perverted? Transmitting HIV in a country that has little availability of drugs is not a horrible act? Maximilian doesn’t think these people are harmful?

If society wasn’t such a monstrous place, such people would be “deported” to prison where they belong. Unfortunately today most people who commit sex offenses aren’t even reported, much less charged, much less sent to prison. And this is due in part to cover-ups- witness the recent Penn State debacle.

The Uganda bill stipulates capital punishment for such offenses. While one can debate whether capital punishment is warranted, to claim that there is something wrong in demanding punishment for such heinous acts is really to engage in a smear campaign against the FRC.

“The offense of homosexuality” is defined to include same-sex sexual acts, – which is illegal and would receive life imprisonment

Personally, I’m not in favor of life imprisonment. The question of criminalization of homosexual activity is just what homosexual activists yearn for to paint anyone who suggests it as the same as Himmler.

However, the question that no one asks is: do people with a homosexual problem commit more or less violence and harm in Uganda than in the US? Who gets to decide who is going to perpetrate what kinds of violence and harm in society?

In the US, it’s the people pushing for a harmful homosexuality agenda who claim they have the right to destroy society and the rights of anyone who objects. There is enormous impunity for all kinds of crimes and harmful acts committed by people with a homosexual problem (abuse, harassment, spreading of STDs, promoting dysfunctional sexual ideologies and behaviors, etc.).

The FRC is a very good organization because they speak out about these many problems.