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		<title>By: Maximilian</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/10/04/commenters-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-76876</link>
		<dc:creator>Maximilian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 22:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Matthew: I guess then this article does not exist?

I said the rank and file, not opinion leaders. And what Hadley Arkes wrote was interesting to say the least. 

I actually would agree with people who advocate the use of violence against abortion doctors, if I believed that zygotes were actual babies. It seems the only logical end point of that premise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matthew: I guess then this article does not exist?</p>
<p>I said the rank and file, not opinion leaders. And what Hadley Arkes wrote was interesting to say the least. </p>
<p>I actually would agree with people who advocate the use of violence against abortion doctors, if I believed that zygotes were actual babies. It seems the only logical end point of that premise.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Flannagan</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/10/04/commenters-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-76788</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Flannagan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 07:24:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;What is ironic is that the “baby-killers” of the pro-choice side will do nothing but condemn this threat, while actual murder is completely fine with many people who call themselves pro-life. I don’t mean ‘opinion leaders’, I’m talking about the rank and file. Just look at the reactions to the murder of Dr. Tiller&quot;  
 I guess then this article does not exist? http://www.firstthings.com/article/2007/01/killing-abortionists-a-symposium-31]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;What is ironic is that the “baby-killers” of the pro-choice side will do nothing but condemn this threat, while actual murder is completely fine with many people who call themselves pro-life. I don’t mean ‘opinion leaders’, I’m talking about the rank and file. Just look at the reactions to the murder of Dr. Tiller&#8221;<br />
 I guess then this article does not exist? <a href="http://www.firstthings.com/article/2007/01/killing-abortionists-a-symposium-31" rel="nofollow">http://www.firstthings.com/article/2007/01/killing-abortionists-a-symposium-31</a></p>
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		<title>By: Maximilian</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/10/04/commenters-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-76441</link>
		<dc:creator>Maximilian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 16:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Irishsmile: Stereotyping flourishes among the gullible. I am strongly pro-life and, under no circumstances, would ever rationalize violence of any kind.

I am completely aware of the fact that individuals like yourself exist, and thus, I did not generalize. I just said that &#039;many pro-lifers&#039;, even many supposed moderates, expressed happiness at the murder of Dr. Tiller.

Mike: “Actual murder” is completely fine with many people regardless of their beliefs on abortion. That’s called the crazy fringe. 

The point was that only on the anti-abortion side are murders carried and out and subsequently justified by non-murderers. Only on the anti-abortion side is forcing the closure of a clinic closed by harassment of patients hailed as a great victory. What would you think of me, if I along with a group of atheists harassed a local Catholic church into oblivion, and then bragged about &#039;a complete victory&#039; for atheism?

Mike: Pro-choice no more inoculates them from that “choice” than pro-life does.

How then do you explain that abortion doctors have to fear for their lives, and are often the targets of vandalism, terrorism and murder - when such things never befall anti-abortion leaders?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irishsmile: Stereotyping flourishes among the gullible. I am strongly pro-life and, under no circumstances, would ever rationalize violence of any kind.</p>
<p>I am completely aware of the fact that individuals like yourself exist, and thus, I did not generalize. I just said that &#8216;many pro-lifers&#8217;, even many supposed moderates, expressed happiness at the murder of Dr. Tiller.</p>
<p>Mike: “Actual murder” is completely fine with many people regardless of their beliefs on abortion. That’s called the crazy fringe. </p>
<p>The point was that only on the anti-abortion side are murders carried and out and subsequently justified by non-murderers. Only on the anti-abortion side is forcing the closure of a clinic closed by harassment of patients hailed as a great victory. What would you think of me, if I along with a group of atheists harassed a local Catholic church into oblivion, and then bragged about &#8216;a complete victory&#8217; for atheism?</p>
<p>Mike: Pro-choice no more inoculates them from that “choice” than pro-life does.</p>
<p>How then do you explain that abortion doctors have to fear for their lives, and are often the targets of vandalism, terrorism and murder &#8211; when such things never befall anti-abortion leaders?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Melendez</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/10/04/commenters-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-76404</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Melendez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 13:22:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Max,

You falter on your assumption. &quot;Actual murder&quot; is completely fine with many people regardless of their beliefs on abortion. That&#039;s called the crazy fringe. Those that take the extra step are called murderers. Pro-choice no more inoculates them from that &quot;choice&quot; than pro-life does.

“Ah, but a man&#039;s reach should exceed his grasp, or what&#039;s a heaven for?” Robert Browning

But at the more mundane level, your thinking above is not infrequently called, &quot;holier than thou&quot; thinking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Max,</p>
<p>You falter on your assumption. &#8220;Actual murder&#8221; is completely fine with many people regardless of their beliefs on abortion. That&#8217;s called the crazy fringe. Those that take the extra step are called murderers. Pro-choice no more inoculates them from that &#8220;choice&#8221; than pro-life does.</p>
<p>“Ah, but a man&#8217;s reach should exceed his grasp, or what&#8217;s a heaven for?” Robert Browning</p>
<p>But at the more mundane level, your thinking above is not infrequently called, &#8220;holier than thou&#8221; thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: irishsmile</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/10/04/commenters-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-76381</link>
		<dc:creator>irishsmile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Oct 2012 05:32:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stereotyping flourishes among the gullible.  I am strongly pro-life and, under no circumstances, would ever rationalize violence of any kind.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stereotyping flourishes among the gullible.  I am strongly pro-life and, under no circumstances, would ever rationalize violence of any kind.</p>
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		<title>By: Maximilian</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/10/04/commenters-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-76353</link>
		<dc:creator>Maximilian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is ironic is that the &quot;baby-killers&quot; of the pro-choice side will do nothing but condemn this threat, while actual murder is completely fine with many people who call themselves pro-life. I don&#039;t mean &#039;opinion leaders&#039;, I&#039;m talking about the rank and file. Just look at the reactions to the murder of Dr. Tiller:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2261665/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2261656/posts

A representative example: &quot;Frankly, I don’t give a damn what they say. I suspect more people than would publicly admit it are glad Tiller is dead.&quot; And so do I.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is ironic is that the &#8220;baby-killers&#8221; of the pro-choice side will do nothing but condemn this threat, while actual murder is completely fine with many people who call themselves pro-life. I don&#8217;t mean &#8216;opinion leaders&#8217;, I&#8217;m talking about the rank and file. Just look at the reactions to the murder of Dr. Tiller:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2261665/posts" rel="nofollow">http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2261665/posts</a><br />
<a href="http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2261656/posts" rel="nofollow">http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2261656/posts</a></p>
<p>A representative example: &#8220;Frankly, I don’t give a damn what they say. I suspect more people than would publicly admit it are glad Tiller is dead.&#8221; And so do I.</p>
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		<title>By: Matthew Schmitz</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/10/04/commenters-beware/comment-page-1/#comment-76342</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew Schmitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[David: I very much doubt they made it through moderation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David: I very much doubt they made it through moderation.</p>
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		<title>By: John Hinshaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Hinshaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 21:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I promise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I promise.</p>
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		<title>By: David Nickol</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Nickol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 20:45:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having had a few ironic or mildly sarcastic comments censored from time to time, I am wondering how death threats made it through moderation.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having had a few ironic or mildly sarcastic comments censored from time to time, I am wondering how death threats made it through moderation.</p>
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		<title>By: Leroy Huizenga</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leroy Huizenga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2012 20:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*chirp*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*chirp*</p>
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