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		<title>By: Lila Taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/10/16/the-salem-witch-trials-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-77837</link>
		<dc:creator>Lila Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Oct 2012 03:49:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree Arte,  It&#039;s nice to have a dose of Anthony humor. Have you seen his Strange Herring?Thanks FT! Many blessings]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree Arte,  It&#8217;s nice to have a dose of Anthony humor. Have you seen his Strange Herring?Thanks FT! Many blessings</p>
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		<title>By: J. W. Cox</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/10/16/the-salem-witch-trials-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-77294</link>
		<dc:creator>J. W. Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I should have written....

&quot; that seems much LESS an instance of “fear” and much more one of prosecutorial misconduct, fueled perhaps by zeal or ambition or both.&quot;

It also occurs to me that that though one can be afraid independent of the teachings of one&#039;s religion, that doesn&#039;t mean that all fear or any given instance of fear is independent of religion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I should have written&#8230;.</p>
<p>&#8221; that seems much LESS an instance of “fear” and much more one of prosecutorial misconduct, fueled perhaps by zeal or ambition or both.&#8221;</p>
<p>It also occurs to me that that though one can be afraid independent of the teachings of one&#8217;s religion, that doesn&#8217;t mean that all fear or any given instance of fear is independent of religion.</p>
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		<title>By: J. W. Cox</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/10/16/the-salem-witch-trials-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-77292</link>
		<dc:creator>J. W. Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2012 19:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Melendez, the idea that fear &quot;explains&quot; either the Salem Witch Trials or the sex abuse prosecutions actually doesn&#039;t explain them.

Unless...you can identify what it was that &quot;people&quot; actually were afraid of; demonstrate that this fear was the dominant motive for the event; and show evidence of both of those.

I have not read widely regarding the &#039;sex abuse cases,&#039; by which you presumably mean the day care sex abuse prosecutions. But I have read something of the Fells Acre case in Massachusetts: that seems much an instance of &quot;fear&quot; and much more one of prosecutorial misconduct, fueled perhaps by zeal or ambition or both.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Melendez, the idea that fear &#8220;explains&#8221; either the Salem Witch Trials or the sex abuse prosecutions actually doesn&#8217;t explain them.</p>
<p>Unless&#8230;you can identify what it was that &#8220;people&#8221; actually were afraid of; demonstrate that this fear was the dominant motive for the event; and show evidence of both of those.</p>
<p>I have not read widely regarding the &#8216;sex abuse cases,&#8217; by which you presumably mean the day care sex abuse prosecutions. But I have read something of the Fells Acre case in Massachusetts: that seems much an instance of &#8220;fear&#8221; and much more one of prosecutorial misconduct, fueled perhaps by zeal or ambition or both.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam Leyrer</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/10/16/the-salem-witch-trials-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-77146</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Leyrer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 18:21:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did not realize that the Romney family included a religious historian.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not realize that the Romney family included a religious historian.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Ingles</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/10/16/the-salem-witch-trials-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-77115</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Ingles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 14:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mike Melendez - &lt;blockquote&gt;There the fear was framed with “psychotherapy”.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Er... &lt;a href=&quot;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_ritual_abuse&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;not entirely&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Melendez &#8211;<br />
<blockquote>There the fear was framed with “psychotherapy”.</p></blockquote>
<p>Er&#8230; <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satanic_ritual_abuse" rel="nofollow">not entirely</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Melendez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Melendez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 13:01:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Then let me be simple, Mr. Cox. People fear and react on that fear, independent of belief systems. The beliefs will frame the fear but neither force nor prevent it. Seek the source in the fact the Salem judges and the people of Salem were afraid, not in their religion.

For a modern story of a very similar witch hunt, read widely about the early 1980&#039;s daycare &quot;sex abuse&quot; cases. There the fear was framed with &quot;psychotherapy&quot;. A major difference between the two is that in Salem, some of the feared events actually occurred, perhaps due to ergotism.  In the daycare case, the &quot;psychotherapists&quot; invented the events wholesale out of the fear.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Then let me be simple, Mr. Cox. People fear and react on that fear, independent of belief systems. The beliefs will frame the fear but neither force nor prevent it. Seek the source in the fact the Salem judges and the people of Salem were afraid, not in their religion.</p>
<p>For a modern story of a very similar witch hunt, read widely about the early 1980&#8242;s daycare &#8220;sex abuse&#8221; cases. There the fear was framed with &#8220;psychotherapy&#8221;. A major difference between the two is that in Salem, some of the feared events actually occurred, perhaps due to ergotism.  In the daycare case, the &#8220;psychotherapists&#8221; invented the events wholesale out of the fear.</p>
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		<title>By: David Nickol</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Nickol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 21:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;And so on. Cotton Mather, one of the more brilliant ministers of his day, intervened at one point, arguing that “spectral evidence”—that is, dreams, visions, and late-night Mexican dinners—was no evidence at all. &lt;/i&gt;

From a quick check of several accounts, it seems Cotton Mather was extremely wary of &quot;spectral evidence&quot; not because a witch could not have appeared to a witness in dreams, but because the devil could have taken the shape of an innocent person and appeared to a witness in a dream. Since it would be difficult if not impossible for the witness to distinguish between a real witch and the devil appearing in the dream in the guise of an innocent person seeming to be a witch, spectral evidence was not reliable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>And so on. Cotton Mather, one of the more brilliant ministers of his day, intervened at one point, arguing that “spectral evidence”—that is, dreams, visions, and late-night Mexican dinners—was no evidence at all. </i></p>
<p>From a quick check of several accounts, it seems Cotton Mather was extremely wary of &#8220;spectral evidence&#8221; not because a witch could not have appeared to a witness in dreams, but because the devil could have taken the shape of an innocent person and appeared to a witness in a dream. Since it would be difficult if not impossible for the witness to distinguish between a real witch and the devil appearing in the dream in the guise of an innocent person seeming to be a witch, spectral evidence was not reliable.</p>
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		<title>By: J.W. Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>J.W. Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 20:56:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[With regard to arty&#039;s comment, I don&#039;t understand how a possible explanation of the childrens&#039; behavior isn&#039;t interesting to the historian. 

Based on the magazine excerpt cited by Mr. Scaramone, the hypothese put forward is the opposite of &quot;totalizing.&quot; In fact, it doesn&#039;t attempt to &quot;explain&quot; the various events that over the course of a year comprised the &quot;Salem Witch Trials.&quot; 

It simply suggests a possible explanation -- body chemistry and toxins -- for the childrens&#039; strange behavior, which precipitated those events. What happened afterwards isn&#039;t the result of physiology and chemistry. 

I don&#039;t understand what Mr. Melendez means by his last sentence.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With regard to arty&#8217;s comment, I don&#8217;t understand how a possible explanation of the childrens&#8217; behavior isn&#8217;t interesting to the historian. </p>
<p>Based on the magazine excerpt cited by Mr. Scaramone, the hypothese put forward is the opposite of &#8220;totalizing.&#8221; In fact, it doesn&#8217;t attempt to &#8220;explain&#8221; the various events that over the course of a year comprised the &#8220;Salem Witch Trials.&#8221; </p>
<p>It simply suggests a possible explanation &#8212; body chemistry and toxins &#8212; for the childrens&#8217; strange behavior, which precipitated those events. What happened afterwards isn&#8217;t the result of physiology and chemistry. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t understand what Mr. Melendez means by his last sentence.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Melendez</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/10/16/the-salem-witch-trials-revisited/comment-page-1/#comment-77050</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Melendez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:38:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Not being you (you being Anthony), I&#039;ve been aware of this hypothesis for some time, which doesn&#039;t explain why you didn&#039;t know about it because I did. I guess I&#039;ll have to ponder that.

Anyways, I long ago read &lt;i&gt;The Day of St Anthony&#039;s Fire&lt;/i&gt; by John Grant Fuller which describes what looks like a village wide incident of ergotism in France in the early 1950s. The authorities did not respond very well then, either. And they came up with &quot;scientific&quot; explanations. 

I&#039;d say welcome to the human race, Mr. Cox, but I suspect you&#039;ve been with us a long time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not being you (you being Anthony), I&#8217;ve been aware of this hypothesis for some time, which doesn&#8217;t explain why you didn&#8217;t know about it because I did. I guess I&#8217;ll have to ponder that.</p>
<p>Anyways, I long ago read <i>The Day of St Anthony&#8217;s Fire</i> by John Grant Fuller which describes what looks like a village wide incident of ergotism in France in the early 1950s. The authorities did not respond very well then, either. And they came up with &#8220;scientific&#8221; explanations. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d say welcome to the human race, Mr. Cox, but I suspect you&#8217;ve been with us a long time.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Ingles</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ray Ingles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 18:37:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;Twenty. As in “20.” As in more people are trampled to death outside Walmart on any given Black Friday.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Given that the entire population of Salem at the time was less than a thousand people, it seems a trifle more significant. If six million people died on Black Friday and one in five people were injured, it might be... noticeable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Twenty. As in “20.” As in more people are trampled to death outside Walmart on any given Black Friday.</p></blockquote>
<p>Given that the entire population of Salem at the time was less than a thousand people, it seems a trifle more significant. If six million people died on Black Friday and one in five people were injured, it might be&#8230; noticeable.</p>
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