Comments on: South Carolina Bishop Refuses to Secede

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Mere Links 10.22.12 - Mere Comments — Mon, 22 Oct 2012 15:01:01 +0000

[...] South Carolina Bishop Refuses to Secede David Mills, First Things Wiser people would have let the bishop and diocese well enough alone, in the hope of holding on to them (and whatever money they give) and in the hope of saving a huge amount of money in legal fees which are unlikely to be recouped. [...]

By: John Hinshaw

John Hinshaw — Sun, 21 Oct 2012 03:08:10 +0000

Perhaps the Diocese of South Carolina should just declare itself THE Church of South Carolina and boldly assert that no foreign (outside the state) potentate has say in their land. It has precedent.

By: Graham Combs

Graham Combs — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 20:15:21 +0000

Has anyone noticed that the Anglicanorum Coetibus Ordinariate of the Chair of St. Peter in the United States is primarily a Southern phenomenon? I certainly can’t imagine it in Michigan although there is one Episcopal priest and parish strongly allied with the pro-life movement here. (Orthodox Anglicans seperatism is also rooted in Pittsburgh, PA.)

As Catholic convert from the Episcopal Church (as well as being southern-born), I wish the Diocese of South Caroline would just come home.

By: doug spangler

doug spangler — Fri, 19 Oct 2012 18:47:15 +0000

There a some problems with ACNA but it functions as an umbrella for the many different factions that are coalescing there. It makes sense for the Diocese of SC to look at that option.

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[...] South Carolina Episcopalian Bishop Refuses to Secede – David Mills, First Things [...]

By: peg

peg — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 23:11:10 +0000

“But at least they’ve forced the bishop and his diocese to get into the lifeboats.*

* Which, I know, don’t work when the ship is underwater, but let me have the metaphor, okay?”

For what it’s worth, one of the Titanic lifeboats (Collapsible B) floated off the deck of the ship as it sank. It was upside-down, but 30 people swam to it after the sinking and were saved. So your metaphor is good to go.

By: Jeff Walton

Jeff Walton — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 20:53:01 +0000

The idea of DioSC affiliating with the continuing church movement is silly. DioSC is growing and mission-minded. Most of the continuing churches long ago ceased to be either.

The idea of a 29,000-member diocese joining a much smaller church body (most of the continuing Anglican churches are downright tiny) makes no sense.

Bishop Lawrence has raised concerns about the catholicity of ACNA (and I don’t expect those will be resolved any time soon) but ACNA is a far more likely affiliation than the continuing churches. Perhaps we’ll see the two court each other with a “mission partner” status, leading to a marriage of sorts further down the road.

By: William Tighe

William Tighe — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 18:09:01 +0000

Allen,

I don’t necessarily oppose your idea — and in any case it would be better than affiliating with the half-piscine half-avian ACNA — but how could the DSC possibily affiliate with a Continuing Anglican body, what with its purported priestesses and all? Or does it have so few of them, and those likely to stay with TE”C,” that it may not be a problem? Perhaps (as I reread your suggestion) it is directed at individual parishes, but would there be many of those that would contemplate disaffiliating from the SC diocese, now that the latter is itself disaffiliating from TE”C?”

By: Allen Lewis

Allen Lewis — Thu, 18 Oct 2012 17:47:50 +0000

* Which, I know, don’t work when the ship is underwater, but let me have the metaphor, okay?

David,

I will gladly let you have the metaphor. The issue is, what now? I would not like to see the Dioces of SC to affiliate with ACNA. I think ACNA has too many issues right now for the Diocese to feel comfortable with. But the Diocese does need to make up its collective mind as to what it wants to do.

I know there are people, such as Dr. William Tighe, who would oppose this suggestion, but the Continuing Church is still there and is still a vialble option, if some of the parishes in the diocese would consider foregoing their pride for “staying in” the dying has-been that is TEC.

I, for one, will be praying for their discernment.