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	<title>Comments on: Tough on Prisons</title>
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		<title>By: Anna Williams</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/11/15/tough-on-prisons/comment-page-1/#comment-79531</link>
		<dc:creator>Anna Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Nov 2012 15:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Andrew, thanks for your lengthy comments! I have little to add -- you&#039;ve put your finger on what I agree are the key problems in the criminal justice system (jailing non-violent offenders, neglecting to help offenders re-enter society and employment, etc) and the key issues to keep in mind when seeking reform. I&#039;ll have to look up the Mitch Pearlstein article you mention.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, thanks for your lengthy comments! I have little to add &#8212; you&#8217;ve put your finger on what I agree are the key problems in the criminal justice system (jailing non-violent offenders, neglecting to help offenders re-enter society and employment, etc) and the key issues to keep in mind when seeking reform. I&#8217;ll have to look up the Mitch Pearlstein article you mention.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/11/15/tough-on-prisons/comment-page-1/#comment-79418</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 22:21:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Continuing....

Yet, there is evidence that this troubling social-reality is far from an impossibly entrenched barrier.  Studies indicate that the disproportion between white and nonwhite employment shrinks and even disappears among those without a criminal record with similar educational attainment and familial dynamics.  That is, evidence indicates that African-American males without criminal-records, with a decent educational backgrounds, and stable familial upbringings (born and raised in households headed by a mother and father) are nearly as likely as historically more advantaged counterparts to attain stable employments and income.  

This indicates that certain employers are willing to put aside whatever prejudices (reprehensible and inexcusable as they are) if a nonwhite applicant lacks a criminal-record.  If there is absent any evidence that an employer can use to justify his prejudices, he is more likely to set his misconceived preconceptions aside.  Under  the reconciliation-based reforms that Mitch Pearlstien and others propose, a trial judge would remove unreasonable collateral-sanctions and after a successful rehabilitation period, the judge would vacate the conviction.  Thus,a stigmatizing conviction would cease to follow s an honest person who, after completing a reconciliation process,  seeks work and responsibility.  

Such a forgiveness-based reform can assist toward eliminating misbegotten notions, building trust among peoples and this, rather than therapeutic mechanisms, is really the only to eliminate social prejudices.  Furthermore, such reforms can also assist persons toward gaining family-supporting work, more conducive to supporting a stable family structure and such true progress is the only way to ensure that more of future generations will be out of prison and in homes, churches, at work, contributing to the common good according to their capacities and vocations.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Continuing&#8230;.</p>
<p>Yet, there is evidence that this troubling social-reality is far from an impossibly entrenched barrier.  Studies indicate that the disproportion between white and nonwhite employment shrinks and even disappears among those without a criminal record with similar educational attainment and familial dynamics.  That is, evidence indicates that African-American males without criminal-records, with a decent educational backgrounds, and stable familial upbringings (born and raised in households headed by a mother and father) are nearly as likely as historically more advantaged counterparts to attain stable employments and income.  </p>
<p>This indicates that certain employers are willing to put aside whatever prejudices (reprehensible and inexcusable as they are) if a nonwhite applicant lacks a criminal-record.  If there is absent any evidence that an employer can use to justify his prejudices, he is more likely to set his misconceived preconceptions aside.  Under  the reconciliation-based reforms that Mitch Pearlstien and others propose, a trial judge would remove unreasonable collateral-sanctions and after a successful rehabilitation period, the judge would vacate the conviction.  Thus,a stigmatizing conviction would cease to follow s an honest person who, after completing a reconciliation process,  seeks work and responsibility.  </p>
<p>Such a forgiveness-based reform can assist toward eliminating misbegotten notions, building trust among peoples and this, rather than therapeutic mechanisms, is really the only to eliminate social prejudices.  Furthermore, such reforms can also assist persons toward gaining family-supporting work, more conducive to supporting a stable family structure and such true progress is the only way to ensure that more of future generations will be out of prison and in homes, churches, at work, contributing to the common good according to their capacities and vocations.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/11/15/tough-on-prisons/comment-page-1/#comment-79415</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We need to distinguish between reasonable and unreasonable prison reforms.  Many  oversimplify the issue and say that we incarcerate too many, therefore we need to incarcerate less.  While this is broadly true, there is more to the matter.  As Mitch Pearlstein noted in an articulate, insightful essay for National Review last fall,(paraphrasing) it is difficult to say that we incarcerate too many considering that when some is incarcerated for a maliciously violent offense, it turns out that he is a multiple-time offender yet he was out of prison.  An important aspect of the issue, but not the sole aspect, is that we incarcerate too many for non-violent crimes.  Yet, the fact that there are so many multiple-time offenders out of imprison indicates that better law-enforcement is an intrinsic component of viable prison-reform. 

Nonetheless, we only solve one aspect, albeit an important aspect, if we incarcerate for violent offences while exploring viable options for non-violent crimes such as (depending on the crime) shorter sentences, non-imprisonment custody such as house-arrest, non-custodial punishments, greater use of citations, etc.  The best prison reform and law-enforcement policies require measures directed towards assisting those seeking to re-integrate into society and gain employment after facing incarceration.  Mitch Pearlstein, in his aforementioned essay, highlights forgiveness-based approaches directed toward removing the collateral sanctions and collateral consequences that accompany an incarceration. The former, collateral sanctions, refer to the legal barriers to employment that persons face after serving a sentence. The later, collateral consequences, refer to the social-stigma that plagues those seeking societal reintegration.   

Certain collateral sanctions are reasonable--ones that prohibit ex-convicts employment involving work in the vicinity of children and sanctions that prohibit auto-thefts from employment hat requires using a company car.  Nonetheless, other sanctions are unreasonable and unnecessary.  Furthermore, collateral consequences prove perhaps even more rehabilitating than sanctions.  Collateral consequences, as aforementioned, refer to the social stigma that accompanies ex-convict&#039;s efforts to rehabilitate and reintegrate into a stable life.  Collateral consequences, coupled with collateral sanctions, are among the most influential causes of chronic and long-term unemployment among low-income citizens (the demographic that faces the highest, most frequent and longest bouts of unemployment).  

Collateral consequences are in many aspects more difficult to limit than collateral sanctions since they are intrinsically linked to more subtle social dynamics.  Many see evidence of racism in the disproportionate incarceration-rates for nonwhite, especially African-American males.  While such accusations tend toward hyperbole and outright false, there is truth to that point yet in a more subtle regard.  On her &quot;Kinship &amp; Culture&quot; blog, Eve Tushent refers to a research experiment conducted by sociologists Bruce Western and Devah Prage concerning collateral consequences.  The study&#039;s results indicated that nonwhite applicants with a criminal-record were more likely to be denied employment than white applicants with a similar background and a criminal-record.  From these results, one can conclude that prejudices among certain employers remain a barrier for many seeking to gain re-employment and reintegrate following an incarceration.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We need to distinguish between reasonable and unreasonable prison reforms.  Many  oversimplify the issue and say that we incarcerate too many, therefore we need to incarcerate less.  While this is broadly true, there is more to the matter.  As Mitch Pearlstein noted in an articulate, insightful essay for National Review last fall,(paraphrasing) it is difficult to say that we incarcerate too many considering that when some is incarcerated for a maliciously violent offense, it turns out that he is a multiple-time offender yet he was out of prison.  An important aspect of the issue, but not the sole aspect, is that we incarcerate too many for non-violent crimes.  Yet, the fact that there are so many multiple-time offenders out of imprison indicates that better law-enforcement is an intrinsic component of viable prison-reform. </p>
<p>Nonetheless, we only solve one aspect, albeit an important aspect, if we incarcerate for violent offences while exploring viable options for non-violent crimes such as (depending on the crime) shorter sentences, non-imprisonment custody such as house-arrest, non-custodial punishments, greater use of citations, etc.  The best prison reform and law-enforcement policies require measures directed towards assisting those seeking to re-integrate into society and gain employment after facing incarceration.  Mitch Pearlstein, in his aforementioned essay, highlights forgiveness-based approaches directed toward removing the collateral sanctions and collateral consequences that accompany an incarceration. The former, collateral sanctions, refer to the legal barriers to employment that persons face after serving a sentence. The later, collateral consequences, refer to the social-stigma that plagues those seeking societal reintegration.   </p>
<p>Certain collateral sanctions are reasonable&#8211;ones that prohibit ex-convicts employment involving work in the vicinity of children and sanctions that prohibit auto-thefts from employment hat requires using a company car.  Nonetheless, other sanctions are unreasonable and unnecessary.  Furthermore, collateral consequences prove perhaps even more rehabilitating than sanctions.  Collateral consequences, as aforementioned, refer to the social stigma that accompanies ex-convict&#8217;s efforts to rehabilitate and reintegrate into a stable life.  Collateral consequences, coupled with collateral sanctions, are among the most influential causes of chronic and long-term unemployment among low-income citizens (the demographic that faces the highest, most frequent and longest bouts of unemployment).  </p>
<p>Collateral consequences are in many aspects more difficult to limit than collateral sanctions since they are intrinsically linked to more subtle social dynamics.  Many see evidence of racism in the disproportionate incarceration-rates for nonwhite, especially African-American males.  While such accusations tend toward hyperbole and outright false, there is truth to that point yet in a more subtle regard.  On her &#8220;Kinship &amp; Culture&#8221; blog, Eve Tushent refers to a research experiment conducted by sociologists Bruce Western and Devah Prage concerning collateral consequences.  The study&#8217;s results indicated that nonwhite applicants with a criminal-record were more likely to be denied employment than white applicants with a similar background and a criminal-record.  From these results, one can conclude that prejudices among certain employers remain a barrier for many seeking to gain re-employment and reintegrate following an incarceration.</p>
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		<title>By: Northern Observer</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/11/15/tough-on-prisons/comment-page-1/#comment-79400</link>
		<dc:creator>Northern Observer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2012 19:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nice to see what can be accomplished when the ideological battle is put aside.  In this case, because their is no zero sum financial winner to be had in any given reform, economic conservatives have witheld their veto. 
That they would do so more often.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice to see what can be accomplished when the ideological battle is put aside.  In this case, because their is no zero sum financial winner to be had in any given reform, economic conservatives have witheld their veto.<br />
That they would do so more often.</p>
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