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	<title>Comments on: RE: Against the RSV</title>
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		<title>By: Graham Combs</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/11/20/re-against-the-rsv/comment-page-1/#comment-80249</link>
		<dc:creator>Graham Combs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Nov 2012 04:19:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[After the year the Church has had in which the leadership refuses again and again to see that what the American landscape has become, I&#039;m in no mood for Catholics to tell me which  Bible to read.   Not when the most outrageously pro-choice and pro-same-sex marriage politicians remain welcome at the Communion Rail.   Three and half years after entering the Church, I continue to read the Authorized Version, aka the King James Bible or 1611 Bible.  Not exclusively but certainly primarily in my private devotions.   The Bible shared by my Southern Baptist mother and Anglican father.   Let me know when a majority of those in Holy Orders become serious about where the Catholic Church now finds herself in the West and the English-speaking world.   Which Bible Catholics read is the least of our concerns and certainly the least of mine.   I simply don&#039;t care how inaccurate or &quot;incomprehensible&quot; it is.  The incoherence is in how the Church preaches and teaches the Gospel, the Sacraments,  and the moral imperatives of the Magisterium.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>After the year the Church has had in which the leadership refuses again and again to see that what the American landscape has become, I&#8217;m in no mood for Catholics to tell me which  Bible to read.   Not when the most outrageously pro-choice and pro-same-sex marriage politicians remain welcome at the Communion Rail.   Three and half years after entering the Church, I continue to read the Authorized Version, aka the King James Bible or 1611 Bible.  Not exclusively but certainly primarily in my private devotions.   The Bible shared by my Southern Baptist mother and Anglican father.   Let me know when a majority of those in Holy Orders become serious about where the Catholic Church now finds herself in the West and the English-speaking world.   Which Bible Catholics read is the least of our concerns and certainly the least of mine.   I simply don&#8217;t care how inaccurate or &#8220;incomprehensible&#8221; it is.  The incoherence is in how the Church preaches and teaches the Gospel, the Sacraments,  and the moral imperatives of the Magisterium.</p>
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		<title>By: Drifter</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/11/20/re-against-the-rsv/comment-page-1/#comment-80151</link>
		<dc:creator>Drifter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Nov 2012 18:28:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And see the Lutheran Study Bible edition of the ESV Apocrypha for some excellent study helps: 

 http://www.cph.org/p-19305-the-apocrypha-the-lutheran-edition-with-notes.aspx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And see the Lutheran Study Bible edition of the ESV Apocrypha for some excellent study helps: </p>
<p> <a href="http://www.cph.org/p-19305-the-apocrypha-the-lutheran-edition-with-notes.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.cph.org/p-19305-the-apocrypha-the-lutheran-edition-with-notes.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: John Raley</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/11/20/re-against-the-rsv/comment-page-1/#comment-79990</link>
		<dc:creator>John Raley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 19:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &quot;dynamic equivelancy&quot; of the NIV in most cases prove helpful it seems to me. I use the NIV because that is what my church favors for now and since I teach the scriptures I like to be on the same page so to speak.  I also own an ESV but need a wheel barrow to carry it around..the study bible has a significant number of notations which is a good thing.
Even so I prefer the NIV study bible because it does not seem to have a particular presupposition for the most part.  As far as the text is concerned I really have not found a great deal of difference at least not enough to warrant yet another whole new translation.
Also Concordia has just come out with a translation of the Apocrapha, it is too bad that these books are not included in protestant texts even though they would not be considered canonical at least they would be edifying to the reader.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;dynamic equivelancy&#8221; of the NIV in most cases prove helpful it seems to me. I use the NIV because that is what my church favors for now and since I teach the scriptures I like to be on the same page so to speak.  I also own an ESV but need a wheel barrow to carry it around..the study bible has a significant number of notations which is a good thing.<br />
Even so I prefer the NIV study bible because it does not seem to have a particular presupposition for the most part.  As far as the text is concerned I really have not found a great deal of difference at least not enough to warrant yet another whole new translation.<br />
Also Concordia has just come out with a translation of the Apocrapha, it is too bad that these books are not included in protestant texts even though they would not be considered canonical at least they would be edifying to the reader.</p>
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		<title>By: Leroy Huizenga</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/11/20/re-against-the-rsv/comment-page-1/#comment-79978</link>
		<dc:creator>Leroy Huizenga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 18:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hadn&#039;t seen that! Thanks! I should have checked, and should even have assumed it existed, because publishers issue Bible after Bible after Bible in all sorts of editions and translations for all the obvious reasons. Of course there&#039;d be an ESV with &quot;apocrypha&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hadn&#8217;t seen that! Thanks! I should have checked, and should even have assumed it existed, because publishers issue Bible after Bible after Bible in all sorts of editions and translations for all the obvious reasons. Of course there&#8217;d be an ESV with &#8220;apocrypha&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/11/20/re-against-the-rsv/comment-page-1/#comment-79953</link>
		<dc:creator>thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Nov 2012 17:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.amazon.com/English-Standard-Version-Bible-Apocrypha/dp/0195289102/]]></description>
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