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	<title>Comments on: Vatican Statement Applauds U.N. Palestine Vote</title>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/11/30/vatican-statement-on-u-n-palestine-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-81827</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 02:26:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It may be that Israel ought to be more respectful of the legal rights of non-Jews. It does not follow, however, that their take-over of the territories in 1967 was not justified, or that there is justification for the creation of a &quot;Palestinian State,&quot; which has little historical basis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It may be that Israel ought to be more respectful of the legal rights of non-Jews. It does not follow, however, that their take-over of the territories in 1967 was not justified, or that there is justification for the creation of a &#8220;Palestinian State,&#8221; which has little historical basis.</p>
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		<title>By: schmenz</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/11/30/vatican-statement-on-u-n-palestine-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-81796</link>
		<dc:creator>schmenz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 19:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Israel’s actions are always judged with special and selective harshness while the claims of the Palestinians are looked on with a sympathy enjoyed by no other group,&quot; says the article.  

Of course, the precise opposite is the truth.

But don&#039;t take my poor word for it.  Just ask the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem what is really going on over there, and when you find out you will plainly see that no Catholic could ever support what the occupying Israeli government is doing to those people.  

Turn off the AIPAC propaganda and start saying some rosaries for the sufferings of your fellow Palestinian CHRISTIANS who are suffering under the jackboots of their overlords.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Israel’s actions are always judged with special and selective harshness while the claims of the Palestinians are looked on with a sympathy enjoyed by no other group,&#8221; says the article.  </p>
<p>Of course, the precise opposite is the truth.</p>
<p>But don&#8217;t take my poor word for it.  Just ask the Latin Patriarch of Jerusalem what is really going on over there, and when you find out you will plainly see that no Catholic could ever support what the occupying Israeli government is doing to those people.  </p>
<p>Turn off the AIPAC propaganda and start saying some rosaries for the sufferings of your fellow Palestinian CHRISTIANS who are suffering under the jackboots of their overlords.</p>
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		<title>By: Lydia</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/11/30/vatican-statement-on-u-n-palestine-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-81746</link>
		<dc:creator>Lydia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 00:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Are you really that ignorant of history Nate? Israel illegally bombed and maimed their way through Palestine via the Irgun and Stern Gang since 1948, and have continued to destroy acres upon acres of family owned Olive groves and land. Refer to the map of &quot;Israel&quot; in 1948 when they were allotted the real estate, and what they have stolen TO DATE. The Palestinians (some who are CHRISTIAN) have had their lands taken from them at gunpoint, leaving them a virtual postage stamp to live on.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you really that ignorant of history Nate? Israel illegally bombed and maimed their way through Palestine via the Irgun and Stern Gang since 1948, and have continued to destroy acres upon acres of family owned Olive groves and land. Refer to the map of &#8220;Israel&#8221; in 1948 when they were allotted the real estate, and what they have stolen TO DATE. The Palestinians (some who are CHRISTIAN) have had their lands taken from them at gunpoint, leaving them a virtual postage stamp to live on.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/11/30/vatican-statement-on-u-n-palestine-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-81740</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 22:59:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s unfortunate the Vatican feels the need to wade into this highly contentious situation. While there are arguments one could make for greater Palestinian independence (I do not personally buy them, or even really the idea of a historical Palestinian identity), to make them at this moment can only be seen as &quot;piling on.&quot; Why does Israel have to recognize the international authority of its ethnic minorities? Why is Israel perceived as &quot;racist&quot; while countries like Japan and South Korea, which have very restrictive laws regarding immigration and generally are much more actually racist, never receive any criticism at all?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s unfortunate the Vatican feels the need to wade into this highly contentious situation. While there are arguments one could make for greater Palestinian independence (I do not personally buy them, or even really the idea of a historical Palestinian identity), to make them at this moment can only be seen as &#8220;piling on.&#8221; Why does Israel have to recognize the international authority of its ethnic minorities? Why is Israel perceived as &#8220;racist&#8221; while countries like Japan and South Korea, which have very restrictive laws regarding immigration and generally are much more actually racist, never receive any criticism at all?</p>
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		<title>By: Nekliw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nekliw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 17:47:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Holy See risks embarrassing the gospel and compromising the Church’s moral witness.&quot;

Can you elaborate?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Holy See risks embarrassing the gospel and compromising the Church’s moral witness.&#8221;</p>
<p>Can you elaborate?</p>
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		<title>By: jason taylor</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/11/30/vatican-statement-on-u-n-palestine-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-81701</link>
		<dc:creator>jason taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 16:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Recognition of statehood is not a sort of present you give to this, that or the other tribe as a Christmas present. Nor is it a statement that said tribe &quot;deserves&quot; statehood. It is merely the recognition that that particular group is so powerful that it is not in our political interest to ignore it. This business about punishing or rewarding given polities with recognition-as if having a government(in other words an organization of politicians) is somehow a gift is absurd and throws a monkey wrench into statecraft. One way or another we will have to either negotiate with Palestine or live with the fact that others will.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Recognition of statehood is not a sort of present you give to this, that or the other tribe as a Christmas present. Nor is it a statement that said tribe &#8220;deserves&#8221; statehood. It is merely the recognition that that particular group is so powerful that it is not in our political interest to ignore it. This business about punishing or rewarding given polities with recognition-as if having a government(in other words an organization of politicians) is somehow a gift is absurd and throws a monkey wrench into statecraft. One way or another we will have to either negotiate with Palestine or live with the fact that others will.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate In WI</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/11/30/vatican-statement-on-u-n-palestine-vote/comment-page-1/#comment-81687</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate In WI</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 15:33:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Great idea, there.  Give them a country.  I mean, it&#039;s not like giving them land and land and more land has solved anything in the past; and it&#039;s not like the Palestinians haven&#039;t already said the only &#039;solution&#039; is the eradication of Israel.

For the Holy See to back this farce, well...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea, there.  Give them a country.  I mean, it&#8217;s not like giving them land and land and more land has solved anything in the past; and it&#8217;s not like the Palestinians haven&#8217;t already said the only &#8216;solution&#8217; is the eradication of Israel.</p>
<p>For the Holy See to back this farce, well&#8230;</p>
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