Comments on: The Struggle to Know What We Can’t Not Know

By: Frank

Frank — Wed, 12 Dec 2012 05:00:14 +0000

Although such stories no longer surprise me, they have not lost their ability to sadden me. The sadness in part is that what we see reported as achievements in popular media, we also see reported with regret by morally conscious media. Where do people turn when they are repeatedly told and influenced that morality is judgmental (which it is) and judging any behavior is considered unenlightened?
It is all too much for me. How do you persuade someone that they are making poor moral judgments when they deny making any judgments?
Yet we do constantly. We are free to decide on the side of what is good and what is true.
But if ‘its all good’ and truth is ‘relative’ so not an objective guide, who has the high ground?
This appears to be what is at issue:
1 there is an objective moral high ground
2 those who preach Christ crucified and resurrected have it
The story is no easier 2,000 yrs later.

By: David Nickol

David Nickol — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:41:11 +0000

While my reaction to the story of the Fantasy Slut League when I first read it was just a bit short of apoplexy, and I can’t even begin to imagine how decent parents with a teenage son would discipline and “rehabilitate” him after finding out he participated in such a thing, I don’t see a huge gulf between young men as I knew them fifty years ago (when I was around that age) and what I read today. Teenage boys want to have sex. They often aren’t particularly empathetic about relationships, and they are capable of grossly mistreating females emotionally. One the other hand, some of the people I knew in high school married their “high school sweethearts” and are now devoted grandparents. I suspect the people I think of as callous young monsters preying on females in their Fantasy Slut League will mostly grow up the same way young men now my age did.

Unfortunately, since I am using my real name, I can’t tell any stories about my college roommates to illustrate. I suspect if I could magically morph into a teenage and go back and live in my old college dorm as part of the class of 2013 or 2014, there might be a bit of a shock at current attitudes, but I imagine I would wind up concluding that most thinks hadn’t really changed much. I would think very seriously about switching my major, though.

By: Craig Payne

Craig Payne — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 20:13:43 +0000

“If you’re not ready to have children, you’re not ready to have sex.”

Just today, I was able to discuss the purposes of sex in a classroom with about 50 students, leading up to the above conclusion, in a secular state college. Most of them had never heard of “unitive” or “procreative” purposes, but they were listening.

Thanks be to God. Do whatever you can, whenever you can; never give up.

By: peg

peg — Tue, 11 Dec 2012 18:54:38 +0000

“Today at Public Discourse, Carson Holloway finds a glimmer of hope for the remnants of conscience, and the recognition of what is naturally right and good, in the use of the word “slut” by a California high-school “Fantasy Slut League” that has made the news recently.”

They also made their league “underground”, which suggests they knew that someone might find it objectionable. Once they get to college, they can probably establish it openly as a university-supported club.