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	<title>Comments on: Conservative Spokeswomen Don&#8217;t Wear Lipstick?</title>
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		<title>By: pentamom</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/12/14/conservative-spokeswomen-dont-wear-lipstick/comment-page-1/#comment-83904</link>
		<dc:creator>pentamom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know where everyone else is looking that they never see conservative spokeswomen, speaking out about the so-called &quot;women&#039;s issues.&quot; I run into them in every conservative forum I regularly encounter.

But it&#039;s heads we win, tails you lose. Kathryn Jean Lopez makes an argument that women aren&#039;t allowed to make, and we&#039;re told she&#039;s too fat, too Catholic, and too undersexed to be allowed to have a voice. Then the liberals complain that only old men are speaking out for conservatism, because the women who do it don&#039;t count anyway.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know where everyone else is looking that they never see conservative spokeswomen, speaking out about the so-called &#8220;women&#8217;s issues.&#8221; I run into them in every conservative forum I regularly encounter.</p>
<p>But it&#8217;s heads we win, tails you lose. Kathryn Jean Lopez makes an argument that women aren&#8217;t allowed to make, and we&#8217;re told she&#8217;s too fat, too Catholic, and too undersexed to be allowed to have a voice. Then the liberals complain that only old men are speaking out for conservatism, because the women who do it don&#8217;t count anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/12/14/conservative-spokeswomen-dont-wear-lipstick/comment-page-1/#comment-83791</link>
		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:57:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And I do understand that this post and McGuire&#039;s post do focus on the relevant, and important attributes needed for successful conservative spokeswomen.

However, the fact that the conversation degenerated so quickly back into how attractive these smart and capable women are does no good.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And I do understand that this post and McGuire&#8217;s post do focus on the relevant, and important attributes needed for successful conservative spokeswomen.</p>
<p>However, the fact that the conversation degenerated so quickly back into how attractive these smart and capable women are does no good.</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
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		<dc:creator>George</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Dec 2012 17:50:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Focusing so much attention on the physical attractiveness of potential female spokespeople is not going to help matters in the least.

Perhaps conservatives should spend less time trying to find &quot;babes&quot; and more time trying to find capable, conservative women who are natural leaders and competent lawmakers.

By they way, the silly focus which side has the more attractive &quot;babes&quot; does NOTHING help dispel any stereotypes of misogynistic conservatives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Focusing so much attention on the physical attractiveness of potential female spokespeople is not going to help matters in the least.</p>
<p>Perhaps conservatives should spend less time trying to find &#8220;babes&#8221; and more time trying to find capable, conservative women who are natural leaders and competent lawmakers.</p>
<p>By they way, the silly focus which side has the more attractive &#8220;babes&#8221; does NOTHING help dispel any stereotypes of misogynistic conservatives.</p>
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		<title>By: James K.</title>
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		<dc:creator>James K.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Dec 2012 17:17:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I mean &quot;dye-ers&quot; - very different!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean &#8220;dye-ers&#8221; &#8211; very different!</p>
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		<title>By: Kamilla</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kamilla</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 21:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Having had a wonderful lunch with Janice Crouse quite recently, I can say without hesitation she is not a crinkly face.  

Regarding Jane Norton, I think she lost because her campaign and the PACs that supported it tried to play Buck&#039;s &quot;high heels&quot; comment both ways.

Let&#039;s face it.  Conservatives are mean, at least that&#039;s the line the old line media will always take. So conservative women can&#039;t play for sympathy like Fluke did.  Perhaps, to take the Norton/Buck example, instead of playing the outrage card, she should have reminded her primary opponent of something like the old saying about Ginger Rogers:

She did everything Fred Astaire did.  But she did it backwards and in high heels.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having had a wonderful lunch with Janice Crouse quite recently, I can say without hesitation she is not a crinkly face.  </p>
<p>Regarding Jane Norton, I think she lost because her campaign and the PACs that supported it tried to play Buck&#8217;s &#8220;high heels&#8221; comment both ways.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s face it.  Conservatives are mean, at least that&#8217;s the line the old line media will always take. So conservative women can&#8217;t play for sympathy like Fluke did.  Perhaps, to take the Norton/Buck example, instead of playing the outrage card, she should have reminded her primary opponent of something like the old saying about Ginger Rogers:</p>
<p>She did everything Fred Astaire did.  But she did it backwards and in high heels.</p>
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		<title>By: joe mc..Faul</title>
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		<dc:creator>joe mc..Faul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 20:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t hink she was comparign liberal women to conservative women.  She was bemoaning the fact that most social conservative spokesmen didn&#039;t wear lipstick becasue they were men.

Here was her message:

&quot;Let the Women Do the Talking&quot;

especially on rape. especially on contraception. get at least some women on healthcare and jobs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t hink she was comparign liberal women to conservative women.  She was bemoaning the fact that most social conservative spokesmen didn&#8217;t wear lipstick becasue they were men.</p>
<p>Here was her message:</p>
<p>&#8220;Let the Women Do the Talking&#8221;</p>
<p>especially on rape. especially on contraception. get at least some women on healthcare and jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Janice Crouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>Janice Crouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:13:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[As one of the &quot;crinkly faces&quot; I am compelled to add that one of the problems with the right is that we concentrate too much on image and not enough on credentials and expertise.  Every one of the women mentioned by Austin is a babe who ALSO has credentials and expertise (he could have added my daughter, Charmaine Yoest), but too often the right brings out lightweights up against the women of the left&#039;s power and gravitas (look at McGuire&#039;s list -- lots of variety!).  We have to cringe too often when our side is represented by someone who is ill-prepared and not representative of the high-calibre of women on the right.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As one of the &#8220;crinkly faces&#8221; I am compelled to add that one of the problems with the right is that we concentrate too much on image and not enough on credentials and expertise.  Every one of the women mentioned by Austin is a babe who ALSO has credentials and expertise (he could have added my daughter, Charmaine Yoest), but too often the right brings out lightweights up against the women of the left&#8217;s power and gravitas (look at McGuire&#8217;s list &#8212; lots of variety!).  We have to cringe too often when our side is represented by someone who is ill-prepared and not representative of the high-calibre of women on the right.</p>
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