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	<title>Comments on: Old Calendarists in Appalachia</title>
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		<title>By: Rod Bennett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rod Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 14:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The anti-papal explanation sounds right to me, Joseph.  Most all of the Appalachain mountaineers were (and are) of Scotch-Irish Calvinist descent (myself included!)...and actually were 5-pointers themselves during the 18th century.  Just exactly the sort of people who&#039;d thumb their noses at Rome in this way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The anti-papal explanation sounds right to me, Joseph.  Most all of the Appalachain mountaineers were (and are) of Scotch-Irish Calvinist descent (myself included!)&#8230;and actually were 5-pointers themselves during the 18th century.  Just exactly the sort of people who&#8217;d thumb their noses at Rome in this way.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael PS</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael PS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 11:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In some parts of Scotland, notably South Uist,  Oidhche Chullaig – New Year&#039;s Eve, or Hogmanay is still celebrated on 14 January]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In some parts of Scotland, notably South Uist,  Oidhche Chullaig – New Year&#8217;s Eve, or Hogmanay is still celebrated on 14 January</p>
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		<title>By: John Crowley</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Crowley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Clinch County, Georgia in the 1970s, my girlfriend mentioned that her grandmother would not allow anyone to work on Old Christmas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Clinch County, Georgia in the 1970s, my girlfriend mentioned that her grandmother would not allow anyone to work on Old Christmas.</p>
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		<title>By: Ten Things You Should Know About Advent &#124; Big Pulpit</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2012/12/17/old-calendarists-in-appalachia/comment-page-1/#comment-84006</link>
		<dc:creator>Ten Things You Should Know About Advent &#124; Big Pulpit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Dec 2012 00:02:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Old Calendarists in Appalachia &#8211; Tristyn Bloom, First Things/First Thoughts [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Old Calendarists in Appalachia &#8211; Tristyn Bloom, First Things/First Thoughts [...]</p>
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		<title>By: pentamom</title>
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		<dc:creator>pentamom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 21:08:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good point -- in rereading the post I started wondering about the &quot;Pope&quot; explanation since the decree came from the King, long before there was much of an independence movement. The frontier explanation makes a lot more sense, but I can see the &quot;Pope&quot; explanation gaining post hoc currency.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point &#8212; in rereading the post I started wondering about the &#8220;Pope&#8221; explanation since the decree came from the King, long before there was much of an independence movement. The frontier explanation makes a lot more sense, but I can see the &#8220;Pope&#8221; explanation gaining post hoc currency.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph B. Howard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph B. Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 18:43:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Growing up, I heard some folks around my grandparents farm refer to &quot;new Christmas.&quot; I don&#039;t think any of them had a particular vendetta against it, and all celebrated it (except for a few staunch reformed folks who didn&#039;t believe in observing the times or seasons etc...). 

I think the survival of the terminology has a lot more to do with the fact that folks were on the frontier when the change was implemented by the English government and they simply kept the older referents around longer than it does with any antipathy for the Pope (since it wasn&#039;t the Pope who would&#039;ve been telling English colonists to move to a new Calendar, this smells like an explanation after the fact... you know, how some protestants claim that Catholics added to the Bible, or the Seventh Day Adventists talk about Sunday worship etc...)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Growing up, I heard some folks around my grandparents farm refer to &#8220;new Christmas.&#8221; I don&#8217;t think any of them had a particular vendetta against it, and all celebrated it (except for a few staunch reformed folks who didn&#8217;t believe in observing the times or seasons etc&#8230;). </p>
<p>I think the survival of the terminology has a lot more to do with the fact that folks were on the frontier when the change was implemented by the English government and they simply kept the older referents around longer than it does with any antipathy for the Pope (since it wasn&#8217;t the Pope who would&#8217;ve been telling English colonists to move to a new Calendar, this smells like an explanation after the fact&#8230; you know, how some protestants claim that Catholics added to the Bible, or the Seventh Day Adventists talk about Sunday worship etc&#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: pentamom</title>
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		<dc:creator>pentamom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Dec 2012 16:55:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[They refuse to honor a calendar change decreed by a Pope, so they stick with the one decreed by a pagan emperor in honor of the gods.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They refuse to honor a calendar change decreed by a Pope, so they stick with the one decreed by a pagan emperor in honor of the gods.</p>
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