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	<title>Comments on: Working on Sunday</title>
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		<title>By: Matthew</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/01/04/working-on-sundays/comment-page-1/#comment-85899</link>
		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 21:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s odd to me that they didn&#039;t rely on the &#039;legitimate business need&#039; principle. Was there no &#039;legitimate business need&#039; for work on Sunday in a respite center for children with learning disabilities? I wouldn&#039;t think a Christian is being persecuted if he/she is asked to work the occasional sabbath in this situation. Jewish, Muslim and Christian physicians are expected to care for sick patients on the sabbath when the need arises; no one sees this as persecution.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s odd to me that they didn&#8217;t rely on the &#8216;legitimate business need&#8217; principle. Was there no &#8216;legitimate business need&#8217; for work on Sunday in a respite center for children with learning disabilities? I wouldn&#8217;t think a Christian is being persecuted if he/she is asked to work the occasional sabbath in this situation. Jewish, Muslim and Christian physicians are expected to care for sick patients on the sabbath when the need arises; no one sees this as persecution.</p>
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		<title>By: Boonton</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/01/04/working-on-sundays/comment-page-1/#comment-85870</link>
		<dc:creator>Boonton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 08:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In terms of prior commitment I strongly suspect the woman only has a verbal agreement that she didn&#039;t have to work on Sundays.  An object lesson here in the value of getting things like this in writing, esp. if they are going to be deal breakers for you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In terms of prior commitment I strongly suspect the woman only has a verbal agreement that she didn&#8217;t have to work on Sundays.  An object lesson here in the value of getting things like this in writing, esp. if they are going to be deal breakers for you.</p>
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		<title>By: John Allman</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/01/04/working-on-sundays/comment-page-1/#comment-85840</link>
		<dc:creator>John Allman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 23:49:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This case should never have been fought as a case about the human right to express one&#039;s belief.  It should have been fought on the basis that the employee said she had a prior commitment every Sunday that meant she could never work Sundays, and the employer accept her job application on that basis, and then reneged on the deal.

There are millions of people who need to have to SAME day off every week.  These include the minority of Christians with commitments to fulfil leading roles in the Sunday activities of their churches that others in the same churches don&#039;t have.  But they also include non-resident parents who have court contact orders to pick up their children from their ex-partners the same time every week.  They include children with disabled and elderly parents whom they take shopping once a week.  They include wives who want their days off to be the same as their husbands, or who need to have time off when their husbands are working, or when their children receive weekly chemotherapy.  And so on.

Trying to make a religious rights case out if this straightforward case of an employer&#039;s broken promise, has been the ruin of Ms Mba.  Barrister Paul Diamond is to blame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This case should never have been fought as a case about the human right to express one&#8217;s belief.  It should have been fought on the basis that the employee said she had a prior commitment every Sunday that meant she could never work Sundays, and the employer accept her job application on that basis, and then reneged on the deal.</p>
<p>There are millions of people who need to have to SAME day off every week.  These include the minority of Christians with commitments to fulfil leading roles in the Sunday activities of their churches that others in the same churches don&#8217;t have.  But they also include non-resident parents who have court contact orders to pick up their children from their ex-partners the same time every week.  They include children with disabled and elderly parents whom they take shopping once a week.  They include wives who want their days off to be the same as their husbands, or who need to have time off when their husbands are working, or when their children receive weekly chemotherapy.  And so on.</p>
<p>Trying to make a religious rights case out if this straightforward case of an employer&#8217;s broken promise, has been the ruin of Ms Mba.  Barrister Paul Diamond is to blame.</p>
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		<title>By: Boonton</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/01/04/working-on-sundays/comment-page-1/#comment-85797</link>
		<dc:creator>Boonton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 19:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shorter version of a longer comment, the article says she claims to have asked for Sunday&#039;s off when she first took the job.  If true then she should win the case on that ground but otherwise she should not win.

This has nothing to do with &#039;expressing&#039; religious beliefs.  This sounds like an orphanage and she took a job providing care to children.  Do children not need care on Sundays?  If so then the employees should work on Sundays.  Religious freedom is not a right to demand that your religion never inconvenience you.  If you absolutely believe you should not work on Sundays, then you are going to be a disadvantage in the job market to those who are ok with working on Sundays.  A person who is seriously religious will not only have some conditions they have to place on their work but will have to exclude entire careers from their lives.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shorter version of a longer comment, the article says she claims to have asked for Sunday&#8217;s off when she first took the job.  If true then she should win the case on that ground but otherwise she should not win.</p>
<p>This has nothing to do with &#8216;expressing&#8217; religious beliefs.  This sounds like an orphanage and she took a job providing care to children.  Do children not need care on Sundays?  If so then the employees should work on Sundays.  Religious freedom is not a right to demand that your religion never inconvenience you.  If you absolutely believe you should not work on Sundays, then you are going to be a disadvantage in the job market to those who are ok with working on Sundays.  A person who is seriously religious will not only have some conditions they have to place on their work but will have to exclude entire careers from their lives.</p>
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		<title>By: TeresaL</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/01/04/working-on-sundays/comment-page-1/#comment-85767</link>
		<dc:creator>TeresaL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 15:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The supposed &quot;issue&quot; of wearing a small cross on a necklace in the case of the BA employee and the nurse is really, really worrisome about the drip, drip, drip as Christians (mostly, it seems) are slowly but surely disallowed to express their religious beliefs even in the smallest manner possible.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The supposed &#8220;issue&#8221; of wearing a small cross on a necklace in the case of the BA employee and the nurse is really, really worrisome about the drip, drip, drip as Christians (mostly, it seems) are slowly but surely disallowed to express their religious beliefs even in the smallest manner possible.</p>
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