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		<title>By: Boonton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boonton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 03:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also not really sure where this report is really coming from.
http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/PPFA/PP_Services.pdf cover 2010 and its abortion figure is 329,445
But STD testing came in at 4.179M.  Contraception 3.685M, cancer screenings 1.596M.  Even pregnancy tests &amp; prenatal services were 1.144M.  Counting by procedure,  abortion seems to be a small piece. But when you read the quotes carefully, we see the language games being played here:

&quot;up to 92 percent of Planned Parenthood’s pregnant clients received abortions.&quot;

But how many of its clients are pregnant?

&quot;Since 2009, the total number of contraceptive services has dropped by 12 percent, and cancer screening...&quot;

It would be silly to be giving contraception to pregnant clients.  I suppose some people are pregnant AND need cancer screening, but that&#039;s not going to be many who are just one or the other.

&quot;“For every adoption referral, Planned Parenthood performed 145 abortions,” it said.&quot;

Possibly a fair point, but given PP has no special expertise with adoption one wouldn&#039;t expect many to go there for such a referral to begin with.

Here you have a perfect example of biased journalism. It&#039;s not that CNA can&#039;t have an anti-abortion side, it&#039;s that they insist on hiding relevant facts from the reader.  For example, for every 1 abortion performed, 33 non-abortion procedures were performed. One can still be anti-PP but the difference is one would be a truthful anti-PP partisan.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also not really sure where this report is really coming from.<br />
<a href="http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/PPFA/PP_Services.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.plannedparenthood.org/files/PPFA/PP_Services.pdf</a> cover 2010 and its abortion figure is 329,445<br />
But STD testing came in at 4.179M.  Contraception 3.685M, cancer screenings 1.596M.  Even pregnancy tests &amp; prenatal services were 1.144M.  Counting by procedure,  abortion seems to be a small piece. But when you read the quotes carefully, we see the language games being played here:</p>
<p>&#8220;up to 92 percent of Planned Parenthood’s pregnant clients received abortions.&#8221;</p>
<p>But how many of its clients are pregnant?</p>
<p>&#8220;Since 2009, the total number of contraceptive services has dropped by 12 percent, and cancer screening&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>It would be silly to be giving contraception to pregnant clients.  I suppose some people are pregnant AND need cancer screening, but that&#8217;s not going to be many who are just one or the other.</p>
<p>&#8220;“For every adoption referral, Planned Parenthood performed 145 abortions,” it said.&#8221;</p>
<p>Possibly a fair point, but given PP has no special expertise with adoption one wouldn&#8217;t expect many to go there for such a referral to begin with.</p>
<p>Here you have a perfect example of biased journalism. It&#8217;s not that CNA can&#8217;t have an anti-abortion side, it&#8217;s that they insist on hiding relevant facts from the reader.  For example, for every 1 abortion performed, 33 non-abortion procedures were performed. One can still be anti-PP but the difference is one would be a truthful anti-PP partisan.</p>
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		<title>By: Boonton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boonton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2013 03:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[harry

&lt;i&gt;Dr. Alan F. Guttmacher, former President of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, said that...&lt;/i&gt;

This must be one amazing organization to be able to pull up 40, 50, 60 even nearly 100 year quotes and assume zero deviation from then until today. What other organization has that type of stability and focus?  The editorial page of the NYT?  National Review circia 1969 vs 2013?  Even the Catholic Church, I doubt, could possibly boast of that uniformity. I wonder what amazing management secrets could be gleamed here!

In terms of &#039;profit driven abortion industry&#039;, any doctor who can perform abortions can also perform prenatal care and birth...which almost certainly bills for more than abortions.

&lt;i&gt;location of clinics is part of a marketing strategy that targets minorities&lt;/i&gt;

Going up the socio-economic ladder you get more access to regular Obgyns, many of whom can either discretely perform abortions or write scripts for abortion causing drugs.  Non-profit medical clinics would not normally try to compete renting medical office space in upper class areas that have many doctors fighting over prime real estate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>harry</p>
<p><i>Dr. Alan F. Guttmacher, former President of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, said that&#8230;</i></p>
<p>This must be one amazing organization to be able to pull up 40, 50, 60 even nearly 100 year quotes and assume zero deviation from then until today. What other organization has that type of stability and focus?  The editorial page of the NYT?  National Review circia 1969 vs 2013?  Even the Catholic Church, I doubt, could possibly boast of that uniformity. I wonder what amazing management secrets could be gleamed here!</p>
<p>In terms of &#8216;profit driven abortion industry&#8217;, any doctor who can perform abortions can also perform prenatal care and birth&#8230;which almost certainly bills for more than abortions.</p>
<p><i>location of clinics is part of a marketing strategy that targets minorities</i></p>
<p>Going up the socio-economic ladder you get more access to regular Obgyns, many of whom can either discretely perform abortions or write scripts for abortion causing drugs.  Non-profit medical clinics would not normally try to compete renting medical office space in upper class areas that have many doctors fighting over prime real estate.</p>
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		<title>By: harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 18:33:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, David,

The location of clinics is part of a marketing strategy that targets minorities. 

Consider this:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive//ldn/2008/feb/08022802&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Undercover Investigation Reveals Planned Parenthood’s Racism&lt;/a&gt;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, David,</p>
<p>The location of clinics is part of a marketing strategy that targets minorities. </p>
<p>Consider this:<br />
<a href="http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive//ldn/2008/feb/08022802" rel="nofollow">Undercover Investigation Reveals Planned Parenthood’s Racism</a></p>
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		<title>By: David Nickol</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Nickol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2013 16:00:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;PP targets minority communities with their placement of clinics.&lt;/i&gt;

harry,

Even if this were true, which I believe it is not, Planned Parenthood does not cause black women to have double the number of unplanned pregnancies of white women, or Hispanic women to have 1.6 times the number of unplanned pregnancies as white women. You can juggle the information about the placement of clinics to come up with varying results, but you can&#039;t demonstrate that the location of clinics causes abortions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>PP targets minority communities with their placement of clinics.</i></p>
<p>harry,</p>
<p>Even if this were true, which I believe it is not, Planned Parenthood does not cause black women to have double the number of unplanned pregnancies of white women, or Hispanic women to have 1.6 times the number of unplanned pregnancies as white women. You can juggle the information about the placement of clinics to come up with varying results, but you can&#8217;t demonstrate that the location of clinics causes abortions.</p>
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		<title>By: harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 22:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi, David Nickol,

First, here is the remainder of my comment as I went over the word count limit:&lt;blockquote&gt;
So, it is no surprise at all that PP abortions are up and a few token adoption referrals are being done. It is also no surprise that ardent PP operatives like Obama and Sebelius are mandating that everyone, even those whose deepest religious convictions forbid them to do so, become involved in the provision of  abortifacient drugs. Will the next step be mandating their use? Perhaps that is why Planned Parenthood recently announced it was abandoning the term “pro-choice.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
You wrote:&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;... but claiming that the purpose of Planned Parenthood is eugenics is nonsense.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Not at all. Sanger&#039;s involvement in the eugenics movement is well documented. PP targets minority communities with their placement of clinics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, David Nickol,</p>
<p>First, here is the remainder of my comment as I went over the word count limit:<br />
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So, it is no surprise at all that PP abortions are up and a few token adoption referrals are being done. It is also no surprise that ardent PP operatives like Obama and Sebelius are mandating that everyone, even those whose deepest religious convictions forbid them to do so, become involved in the provision of  abortifacient drugs. Will the next step be mandating their use? Perhaps that is why Planned Parenthood recently announced it was abandoning the term “pro-choice.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>You wrote:<br />
<blockquote><i>&#8230; but claiming that the purpose of Planned Parenthood is eugenics is nonsense.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Not at all. Sanger&#8217;s involvement in the eugenics movement is well documented. PP targets minority communities with their placement of clinics.</p>
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		<title>By: David Nickol</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Nickol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:32:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;In a Jan. 8 press release, Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.) asserted that “Planned Parenthood’s blatant misuse of taxpayer dollars to fund its big abortion business is an attack on life and women’s health.”&lt;/i&gt;

I was going to skip this thread, since I always seem to be defending Planned Parenthood. In truth, I was a contributor until about twenty or thirty years ago until I decided I didn&#039;t want to have anything to do with them any more. But you don&#039;t have to love Planned Parenthood to correct the lies that are told about them.

Planned Parenthood doesn&#039;t use taxpayer dollars to fund abortions. The government pays Planned Parenthood to provide certain services, and Planned Parenthood provides those services. And the government takes great care to make sure it gets what it pays for. Planned Parenthood doesn&#039;t subsidize abortions. Women who go to planned parenthood for an abortion pay the going rate. So Planned Parenthood doesn&#039;t &lt;i&gt;need&lt;/i&gt; government money to provide abortions. They charge the market price for them the same as any abortion provider. 

&lt;i&gt;While government subsidies to Planned Parenthood have reached an all time high, . . . so too has the number of lives ended by this profit-driven abortion business.”&lt;/i&gt;

Planned Parenthood is a nonprofit organization, so it is not profit-driven.

Abortions have risen during the recession, so it is no surprise the nation&#039;s largest abortion provider has performed more abortions in the past few years than previously. 

Feel free to hate Planned Parenthood for what they do, but don&#039;t invent things to accuse them of. If you are pro-life, isn&#039;t the fact that they are the country&#039;s largest abortion provider &lt;i&gt;enough?&lt;/i&gt; 

By the way, what ever happened to the congressional investigation that was cited by the Komen Foundation last year as a reason to defund Planned Parenthood? (That is not a rhetorical...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>In a Jan. 8 press release, Rep. Diane Black (R-Tenn.) asserted that “Planned Parenthood’s blatant misuse of taxpayer dollars to fund its big abortion business is an attack on life and women’s health.”</i></p>
<p>I was going to skip this thread, since I always seem to be defending Planned Parenthood. In truth, I was a contributor until about twenty or thirty years ago until I decided I didn&#8217;t want to have anything to do with them any more. But you don&#8217;t have to love Planned Parenthood to correct the lies that are told about them.</p>
<p>Planned Parenthood doesn&#8217;t use taxpayer dollars to fund abortions. The government pays Planned Parenthood to provide certain services, and Planned Parenthood provides those services. And the government takes great care to make sure it gets what it pays for. Planned Parenthood doesn&#8217;t subsidize abortions. Women who go to planned parenthood for an abortion pay the going rate. So Planned Parenthood doesn&#8217;t <i>need</i> government money to provide abortions. They charge the market price for them the same as any abortion provider. </p>
<p><i>While government subsidies to Planned Parenthood have reached an all time high, . . . so too has the number of lives ended by this profit-driven abortion business.”</i></p>
<p>Planned Parenthood is a nonprofit organization, so it is not profit-driven.</p>
<p>Abortions have risen during the recession, so it is no surprise the nation&#8217;s largest abortion provider has performed more abortions in the past few years than previously. </p>
<p>Feel free to hate Planned Parenthood for what they do, but don&#8217;t invent things to accuse them of. If you are pro-life, isn&#8217;t the fact that they are the country&#8217;s largest abortion provider <i>enough?</i> </p>
<p>By the way, what ever happened to the congressional investigation that was cited by the Komen Foundation last year as a reason to defund Planned Parenthood? (That is not a rhetorical&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Nickol</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Nickol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 20:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Of course. An adoption taking place is really contrary to their purposes. Planned Parenthood is all about eugenic population control.&lt;/i&gt;

harry,

I understand why many pro-lifers hate Planned Parenthood, but claiming that the purpose of Planned Parenthood is eugenics is nonsense. The women who go to Planned Parenthood for abortions go of their own volition because they don&#039;t want to continue the pregnancies they have started. 

Or are you implying that women who go to Planned Parenthood voluntarily actually &lt;i&gt;are&lt;/i&gt; undesirables, and all Planned Parenthood has to do is sit back and wait for the undesirables to come in of their own accord and ask to have their babies aborted? That puts you in much the same boat as Margaret Sanger herself, who believed that if women were taught about birth control, the &quot;undesirables&quot; would do the right thing and control their own population. 

So I have to ask you. Do you actually believe that abortions by Planned Parenthood serve the cause of eugenics? Are they succeeding in the mission you claim they have taken on? If yes, then how are they serving the cause of eugenics?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Of course. An adoption taking place is really contrary to their purposes. Planned Parenthood is all about eugenic population control.</i></p>
<p>harry,</p>
<p>I understand why many pro-lifers hate Planned Parenthood, but claiming that the purpose of Planned Parenthood is eugenics is nonsense. The women who go to Planned Parenthood for abortions go of their own volition because they don&#8217;t want to continue the pregnancies they have started. </p>
<p>Or are you implying that women who go to Planned Parenthood voluntarily actually <i>are</i> undesirables, and all Planned Parenthood has to do is sit back and wait for the undesirables to come in of their own accord and ask to have their babies aborted? That puts you in much the same boat as Margaret Sanger herself, who believed that if women were taught about birth control, the &#8220;undesirables&#8221; would do the right thing and control their own population. </p>
<p>So I have to ask you. Do you actually believe that abortions by Planned Parenthood serve the cause of eugenics? Are they succeeding in the mission you claim they have taken on? If yes, then how are they serving the cause of eugenics?</p>
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		<title>By: harry</title>
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		<dc:creator>harry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2013 18:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;... adoption referrals were less than one percent.&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Of course. An adoption taking place is really contrary to their purposes. Planned Parenthood is all about eugenic population control.

Dr. Alan F. Guttmacher, former President of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, said that&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;Each country will have to decide its own form of coercion and determine when and how it should be employed. At present, the means available are compulsory sterilization and compulsory abortion. Perhaps someday a way of enforcing compulsory birth control will be feasible.&lt;/i&gt;
-- &quot;Outlook.&quot; Medical World News, June 6, 1969, page 11. 
&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Planned Parenthood&#039;s founder, Margaret Sanger, was a eugenicist. She believed that birth control served a great eugenic purpose by stopping those she described as the genetically &quot;unfit&quot; from reproducing.

In her 1920 book, &lt;i&gt;Woman and the New Race&lt;/i&gt;, Sanger explicitly called her work &quot;nothing more or less than the facilitation of the process of weeding out the unfit, of preventing the birth of defectives or those who will become defectives.&quot; As she wrote in &lt;i&gt;The Birth Control Review&lt;/i&gt;, &quot;the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective.&quot;

What did it take by Sanger&#039;s standards to be considered unfit? In a letter written to Clarence J. Gamble, M.D., she wrote that &quot;... we don&#039;t want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population.&quot; 

Sanger did not rule out coercion if the &quot;wrong&quot; people had children. She wrote, &quot;Possibly drastic and Spartan methods may be forced upon society if it continues complacently to encourage the chance and chaotic breeding that has resulted from our stupidly cruel sentimentalism.&quot;

So, it is no surprise at all that PP abortions are up and a few token...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>&#8230; adoption referrals were less than one percent.</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Of course. An adoption taking place is really contrary to their purposes. Planned Parenthood is all about eugenic population control.</p>
<p>Dr. Alan F. Guttmacher, former President of the Planned Parenthood Federation of America, said that<br />
<blockquote><i>Each country will have to decide its own form of coercion and determine when and how it should be employed. At present, the means available are compulsory sterilization and compulsory abortion. Perhaps someday a way of enforcing compulsory birth control will be feasible.</i><br />
&#8211; &#8220;Outlook.&#8221; Medical World News, June 6, 1969, page 11.
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<p>Planned Parenthood&#8217;s founder, Margaret Sanger, was a eugenicist. She believed that birth control served a great eugenic purpose by stopping those she described as the genetically &#8220;unfit&#8221; from reproducing.</p>
<p>In her 1920 book, <i>Woman and the New Race</i>, Sanger explicitly called her work &#8220;nothing more or less than the facilitation of the process of weeding out the unfit, of preventing the birth of defectives or those who will become defectives.&#8221; As she wrote in <i>The Birth Control Review</i>, &#8220;the most urgent problem today is how to limit and discourage the over-fertility of the mentally and physically defective.&#8221;</p>
<p>What did it take by Sanger&#8217;s standards to be considered unfit? In a letter written to Clarence J. Gamble, M.D., she wrote that &#8220;&#8230; we don&#8217;t want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population.&#8221; </p>
<p>Sanger did not rule out coercion if the &#8220;wrong&#8221; people had children. She wrote, &#8220;Possibly drastic and Spartan methods may be forced upon society if it continues complacently to encourage the chance and chaotic breeding that has resulted from our stupidly cruel sentimentalism.&#8221;</p>
<p>So, it is no surprise at all that PP abortions are up and a few token&#8230;</p>
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