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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Fertility Is Going to Go Up&#8221;: Jason Collins</title>
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		<title>By: Randy McDonald</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/02/15/fertility-is-going-to-go-up-jason-collins/comment-page-1/#comment-91409</link>
		<dc:creator>Randy McDonald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 23:07:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JP:

&quot;Yes, in France the TFR rose from 1.67 to 1.78 for a few years.&quot;

?

Fertility rates rose from 1.66 in 1993/4 to 1.78 in 1999, yes. They then continued to keep rising, to 1.87 in 2000, and 2.00 in 2010. They hardly fell.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JP:</p>
<p>&#8220;Yes, in France the TFR rose from 1.67 to 1.78 for a few years.&#8221;</p>
<p>?</p>
<p>Fertility rates rose from 1.66 in 1993/4 to 1.78 in 1999, yes. They then continued to keep rising, to 1.87 in 2000, and 2.00 in 2010. They hardly fell.</p>
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		<title>By: nobody.really</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/02/15/fertility-is-going-to-go-up-jason-collins/comment-page-1/#comment-90934</link>
		<dc:creator>nobody.really</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2013 17:55:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;As a matter of fact, the birthrate for the US in 2011 hit a historic low of 63 live births per female.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

WOW. And that&#039;s &lt;i&gt;low&lt;/i&gt;?

I’m reminded of the standard line regarding population control: “Somewhere in the world, a woman gives birth four times every second. This woman must be found and stopped.”]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As a matter of fact, the birthrate for the US in 2011 hit a historic low of 63 live births per female.</p></blockquote>
<p>WOW. And that&#8217;s <i>low</i>?</p>
<p>I’m reminded of the standard line regarding population control: “Somewhere in the world, a woman gives birth four times every second. This woman must be found and stopped.”</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2013 16:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Additionally, using the UN demographic projections as source material is probably not a good idea. Their population growth models have no basis in current global trends. I&#039;m not exactly sure how they arrive at such fertility increases, as trends all over the world through 2011 surely don&#039;t back their forecasts. As a matter of fact, the birthrate for the US in 2011 hit a historic low of 63 live births per female.

And from a purely statistical point of view, their projected growth rates are almost impossible to arrive at, for the number of fertile women will be decreasing, not increasing. In China, a plunge in fertility and hence population is almost assured; the ration males to females there is 123 to 100. In China, Europe, Russia, and Japan as the populations age and the number of women in their prime fertility years decrease, future women would need to bear between 2 and 3 children just to stop the hemorraging.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Additionally, using the UN demographic projections as source material is probably not a good idea. Their population growth models have no basis in current global trends. I&#8217;m not exactly sure how they arrive at such fertility increases, as trends all over the world through 2011 surely don&#8217;t back their forecasts. As a matter of fact, the birthrate for the US in 2011 hit a historic low of 63 live births per female.</p>
<p>And from a purely statistical point of view, their projected growth rates are almost impossible to arrive at, for the number of fertile women will be decreasing, not increasing. In China, a plunge in fertility and hence population is almost assured; the ration males to females there is 123 to 100. In China, Europe, Russia, and Japan as the populations age and the number of women in their prime fertility years decrease, future women would need to bear between 2 and 3 children just to stop the hemorraging.</p>
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		<title>By: JP</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/02/15/fertility-is-going-to-go-up-jason-collins/comment-page-1/#comment-90909</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2013 16:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m not sure what numbers the author references, but fertility in almost all developed nations (save Isreal, Austrailia and New Zealand) continue to scrape well below replacement levels (2.1 births per female). Yes, in France the TFR rose from 1.67 to 1.78 for a few years. But, it is still well below replacement levels, and just as important, this increase has only lasted a few years. The sad fact remains that Europe will begin losing population within 3 decades (In Russia and much of Greece and Italy population decreases are already a fact). Japan is losing population (has been for a number of years now), and China will have over 360 million eldery by 2050.

End genetics have little to do with it. It&#039;s all behavior.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure what numbers the author references, but fertility in almost all developed nations (save Isreal, Austrailia and New Zealand) continue to scrape well below replacement levels (2.1 births per female). Yes, in France the TFR rose from 1.67 to 1.78 for a few years. But, it is still well below replacement levels, and just as important, this increase has only lasted a few years. The sad fact remains that Europe will begin losing population within 3 decades (In Russia and much of Greece and Italy population decreases are already a fact). Japan is losing population (has been for a number of years now), and China will have over 360 million eldery by 2050.</p>
<p>End genetics have little to do with it. It&#8217;s all behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Ingles</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/02/15/fertility-is-going-to-go-up-jason-collins/comment-page-1/#comment-90822</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Ingles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Feb 2013 14:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Note that, in this model, evolution would gradually work to make NFP less reliable...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note that, in this model, evolution would gradually work to make NFP less reliable&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: nobody.really</title>
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		<dc:creator>nobody.really</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 17:10:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When the authors discuss “fertility,” they are discussing the propensity to have kids. In short, they’re arguing that people who come from big families tend to produce big families. All else being equal, as each generation tends to have ever more people with a bias toward big families, we would expect the population to grow.

Note that the tendency to have a big family depends on 1) biological capacity, 2) capacity to attract a mate, and 3) social/psychological factors, such as a desire to have a big family. I suspect this last variable – the &lt;i&gt;desire&lt;/i&gt; to have a big family – is the dominant factor for determining the “heritability of fertility.” That is, I suspect that the propensity to have a big family is more a social than a biological variable. 

But imagine it weren’t. That is, imagine that family size were mostly a function of biology.

Attributes that tend to result in genes being passed to the next generation get reinforced in future generations; attributes that tend to impede genes being passed to the next generation tend to get suppressed. All else being equal, high fertility would tend to help genes get passed to the next generation. 

But all else may not be equal. The authors cite studies suggesting that households with fewer kids are able to expend more resources on each kid, and that these kids acquire social advantages that make them more likely to reproduce than would otherwise be the case. Hypothetically – and this is the big assumption here – the reproductive advantage of having fewer, but more advantaged, kids could offset the reproductive disadvantage of having fewer kids. 

If this hypothesis were accurate, then in a world without effective contraception – or among the strict Catholics in our own world -- evolution might come to favor &lt;i&gt;less&lt;/i&gt; fertile people. That would be the ultimate in Natural Family Planning!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the authors discuss “fertility,” they are discussing the propensity to have kids. In short, they’re arguing that people who come from big families tend to produce big families. All else being equal, as each generation tends to have ever more people with a bias toward big families, we would expect the population to grow.</p>
<p>Note that the tendency to have a big family depends on 1) biological capacity, 2) capacity to attract a mate, and 3) social/psychological factors, such as a desire to have a big family. I suspect this last variable – the <i>desire</i> to have a big family – is the dominant factor for determining the “heritability of fertility.” That is, I suspect that the propensity to have a big family is more a social than a biological variable. </p>
<p>But imagine it weren’t. That is, imagine that family size were mostly a function of biology.</p>
<p>Attributes that tend to result in genes being passed to the next generation get reinforced in future generations; attributes that tend to impede genes being passed to the next generation tend to get suppressed. All else being equal, high fertility would tend to help genes get passed to the next generation. </p>
<p>But all else may not be equal. The authors cite studies suggesting that households with fewer kids are able to expend more resources on each kid, and that these kids acquire social advantages that make them more likely to reproduce than would otherwise be the case. Hypothetically – and this is the big assumption here – the reproductive advantage of having fewer, but more advantaged, kids could offset the reproductive disadvantage of having fewer kids. </p>
<p>If this hypothesis were accurate, then in a world without effective contraception – or among the strict Catholics in our own world &#8212; evolution might come to favor <i>less</i> fertile people. That would be the ultimate in Natural Family Planning!</p>
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		<title>By: Ray Ingles</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/02/15/fertility-is-going-to-go-up-jason-collins/comment-page-1/#comment-90618</link>
		<dc:creator>Ray Ingles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 14:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[From the blog: &lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;As the first law of behaviour genetics is that all human behaviour is heritable&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I&#039;m an evolutionary partisan, and even &lt;i&gt;I&lt;/i&gt; don&#039;t grant &lt;i&gt;that&lt;/i&gt; assumption.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the blog:<br />
<blockquote>&#8220;As the first law of behaviour genetics is that all human behaviour is heritable&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;m an evolutionary partisan, and even <i>I</i> don&#8217;t grant <i>that</i> assumption.</p>
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