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		<title>By: DPierre</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/03/01/more-phony-vatican-news/comment-page-1/#comment-92190</link>
		<dc:creator>DPierre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The time is long overdue for Catholics and the rest of the public to learn the *truth* about the anti-Catholic group SNAP. The facts may very much surprise you:

http://www.themediareport.com/hot-topics/snap-survivors-network-of-those-abused-by-priests/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The time is long overdue for Catholics and the rest of the public to learn the *truth* about the anti-Catholic group SNAP. The facts may very much surprise you:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.themediareport.com/hot-topics/snap-survivors-network-of-those-abused-by-priests/" rel="nofollow">http://www.themediareport.com/hot-topics/snap-survivors-network-of-those-abused-by-priests/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frank Sacks</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/03/01/more-phony-vatican-news/comment-page-1/#comment-92189</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank Sacks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 17:02:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Judy and others,
I read in the media last year that the complaints vs. the Vatican do not come under the jurisdiction of the international court of justice -- I forget why. It is a legal issue. Repeating the facts that complaints were made doesn&#039;t really help in my view. This is not to deny that abusers at all levels in the Church must be dealt with fairly and strictly -- I hope the next Pope will bite the bullit on this. It&#039;s not enough to express regret for the victim without holding people, even in the highest places, accountable. Meanwhile, all the rhetoric expressing the need &quot;to get even&quot; with abusers sound to me very lacking the the spirit of the Gospel. God help us all to live the Gospel!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judy and others,<br />
I read in the media last year that the complaints vs. the Vatican do not come under the jurisdiction of the international court of justice &#8212; I forget why. It is a legal issue. Repeating the facts that complaints were made doesn&#8217;t really help in my view. This is not to deny that abusers at all levels in the Church must be dealt with fairly and strictly &#8212; I hope the next Pope will bite the bullit on this. It&#8217;s not enough to express regret for the victim without holding people, even in the highest places, accountable. Meanwhile, all the rhetoric expressing the need &#8220;to get even&#8221; with abusers sound to me very lacking the the spirit of the Gospel. God help us all to live the Gospel!</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 16:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Honestly, I think this is a generational scandal - in the sense that a lot of nonsense was allowed in the seminaries during the 60s - 80s; as these are reformed, those bishops responsible retired or pass on this will cease to be pandemic that it appears to be. 

&#039;Protecting God&#039;s Children&#039; is only of several changes that have occured - and are a good start.  

Any abuse is a serious offense against the individual human being, God, and the Church herself as a community.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, I think this is a generational scandal &#8211; in the sense that a lot of nonsense was allowed in the seminaries during the 60s &#8211; 80s; as these are reformed, those bishops responsible retired or pass on this will cease to be pandemic that it appears to be. </p>
<p>&#8216;Protecting God&#8217;s Children&#8217; is only of several changes that have occured &#8211; and are a good start.  </p>
<p>Any abuse is a serious offense against the individual human being, God, and the Church herself as a community.</p>
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		<title>By: Deacon Ed Peitler</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/03/01/more-phony-vatican-news/comment-page-1/#comment-92165</link>
		<dc:creator>Deacon Ed Peitler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 11:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We do NOT have a clergy child sexual abuse problem in the Church.  We DO have a clergy homosexual problem.  Practically all minors who were molested by priests were pubescent males.  Granted they were still minors.  But the sexual objects chosen by these priests were pubescent males.  THAT is homosexuality.  We all know it.  And it&#039;s about time that we pulled the covers on EVERY homosexual priest we know.  Let&#039;s clean house for real.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We do NOT have a clergy child sexual abuse problem in the Church.  We DO have a clergy homosexual problem.  Practically all minors who were molested by priests were pubescent males.  Granted they were still minors.  But the sexual objects chosen by these priests were pubescent males.  THAT is homosexuality.  We all know it.  And it&#8217;s about time that we pulled the covers on EVERY homosexual priest we know.  Let&#8217;s clean house for real.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard L. Fortin</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/03/01/more-phony-vatican-news/comment-page-1/#comment-92144</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard L. Fortin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Mar 2013 06:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[When it comes to SNAP I find them more credible than reports from EWTN and the Catholic Register.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When it comes to SNAP I find them more credible than reports from EWTN and the Catholic Register.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/03/01/more-phony-vatican-news/comment-page-1/#comment-92107</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 23:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The UN, isn&#039;t that the same organization that supports expanding abortion rights?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The UN, isn&#8217;t that the same organization that supports expanding abortion rights?</p>
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		<title>By: Ben in SoCal</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/03/01/more-phony-vatican-news/comment-page-1/#comment-92093</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben in SoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Mar 2013 20:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems like the Vatican hierarchy still does not take seriously the sex abuse crisis and its continued corrosive impact on the Faith in the world.

For veritable evidence, look at the collapse of the Catholic Faith in Ireland. I love the Church, but it needs to offer some rational &quot;Olive branches&quot; to the faithful. The time for mere apologies is long expired.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems like the Vatican hierarchy still does not take seriously the sex abuse crisis and its continued corrosive impact on the Faith in the world.</p>
<p>For veritable evidence, look at the collapse of the Catholic Faith in Ireland. I love the Church, but it needs to offer some rational &#8220;Olive branches&#8221; to the faithful. The time for mere apologies is long expired.</p>
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		<title>By: Bain Wellington</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/03/01/more-phony-vatican-news/comment-page-1/#comment-92027</link>
		<dc:creator>Bain Wellington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 20:01:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A list of past and future sessions (1995-2015) of the Committee on the Rights of the Child is at http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/crc/sessions.htm

The appearance of the Holy See&#039;s delegation before the Committee is, therefore, not only not surprising but both normal and predictable; nor is it surprising that a ginger group would try to exploit the occasion as a publicity stunt.

Having regard to the volume of work on its plate, it is unlikely that the Committee will waste time in exceeding its remit in order to flatter SNAP.

People might remember that the International Humanist and Ethical Union pulled the same vacuous anti-Catholic stunt before the Human Rights Council in Geneva in 2009.  Care to tell me, anyone, what the outcome was?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A list of past and future sessions (1995-2015) of the Committee on the Rights of the Child is at <a href="http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/crc/sessions.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www2.ohchr.org/english/bodies/crc/sessions.htm</a></p>
<p>The appearance of the Holy See&#8217;s delegation before the Committee is, therefore, not only not surprising but both normal and predictable; nor is it surprising that a ginger group would try to exploit the occasion as a publicity stunt.</p>
<p>Having regard to the volume of work on its plate, it is unlikely that the Committee will waste time in exceeding its remit in order to flatter SNAP.</p>
<p>People might remember that the International Humanist and Ethical Union pulled the same vacuous anti-Catholic stunt before the Human Rights Council in Geneva in 2009.  Care to tell me, anyone, what the outcome was?</p>
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		<title>By: TXW</title>
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		<dc:creator>TXW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 19:34:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nobody is blindly defending anyone (see the FT posts on Mahoney, dude). The secular press blindly attacks and attacks and proves that American journalists are smirking liars.  If they cared so much about hurt children, they would go after the public schools and coaches who are abusing kids as we speak.  The church abuse largely happened decades ago. 
OSV has the best blog I have seen on the subject, a better source than the brainiacs at the AP:
http://www.osv.com/PopeBenedictXVIandtheSexualAbuseCrisisBlog/tabid/8019/Default.aspx]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nobody is blindly defending anyone (see the FT posts on Mahoney, dude). The secular press blindly attacks and attacks and proves that American journalists are smirking liars.  If they cared so much about hurt children, they would go after the public schools and coaches who are abusing kids as we speak.  The church abuse largely happened decades ago.<br />
OSV has the best blog I have seen on the subject, a better source than the brainiacs at the AP:<br />
<a href="http://www.osv.com/PopeBenedictXVIandtheSexualAbuseCrisisBlog/tabid/8019/Default.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://www.osv.com/PopeBenedictXVIandtheSexualAbuseCrisisBlog/tabid/8019/Default.aspx</a></p>
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		<title>By: Joseph Quixote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph Quixote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Mar 2013 19:20:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kangaroo court. The U.N. is a complete joke, everyone knows it and yet the secular leftist world still acts as though it has legitimacy. 
That is because it is run by secular leftists which also explains why it is so corrupt and wasteful. If you want a vision of what Barack Obama&#039;s America will look like someday, take a nice gander at the U.N.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kangaroo court. The U.N. is a complete joke, everyone knows it and yet the secular leftist world still acts as though it has legitimacy.<br />
That is because it is run by secular leftists which also explains why it is so corrupt and wasteful. If you want a vision of what Barack Obama&#8217;s America will look like someday, take a nice gander at the U.N.</p>
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