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	<title>Comments on: Silencing Religious Voices in Canada</title>
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		<title>By: Truth Unites... and Divides</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/03/16/silencing-religious-voices-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-93634</link>
		<dc:creator>Truth Unites... and Divides</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 19:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;b&gt;David Nickol&lt;/b&gt;:  &lt;i&gt;&quot;I don’t know why anyone would take this incident as any kind of evidence of anything.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

This incident is merely yet another example of a long, long string of incidents providing evidence  and proof of the terrible destructiveness and hypocrisy of liberal leftism. 

I don&#039;t know why anyone would want to plunge their head into the ground like an ostrich, and not want to face the cumulative evidence of the stench of secular liberalism.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>David Nickol</b>:  <i>&#8220;I don’t know why anyone would take this incident as any kind of evidence of anything.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>This incident is merely yet another example of a long, long string of incidents providing evidence  and proof of the terrible destructiveness and hypocrisy of liberal leftism. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know why anyone would want to plunge their head into the ground like an ostrich, and not want to face the cumulative evidence of the stench of secular liberalism.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Melendez</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/03/16/silencing-religious-voices-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-93614</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Melendez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 16:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shaun Rieley writes: &#039;...“human being” is not a scientific construct...&#039;

Perhaps you would prefer the term &quot;homo sapiens&quot;? And if we can&#039;t know when an individual is a &quot;human being&quot; without the intervention of philosophy, does that make each of us susceptible to being labeled &quot;not a human being&quot; because someone&#039;s philosophy has been worked into law?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaun Rieley writes: &#8216;&#8230;“human being” is not a scientific construct&#8230;&#8217;</p>
<p>Perhaps you would prefer the term &#8220;homo sapiens&#8221;? And if we can&#8217;t know when an individual is a &#8220;human being&#8221; without the intervention of philosophy, does that make each of us susceptible to being labeled &#8220;not a human being&#8221; because someone&#8217;s philosophy has been worked into law?</p>
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		<title>By: Shaun Rieley</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/firstthoughts/2013/03/16/silencing-religious-voices-in-canada/comment-page-1/#comment-93609</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun Rieley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 14:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A study &quot;to determine at what point a child becomes a human being&quot; is an interesting proposal.  What, exactly, would be studied? It cannot be a &quot;scientific&quot;, given that &quot;human being&quot; is not a scientific construct, but is rather a philosophical/metaphysical concept, going far beyond empirical, materialistic scientific inquiry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A study &#8220;to determine at what point a child becomes a human being&#8221; is an interesting proposal.  What, exactly, would be studied? It cannot be a &#8220;scientific&#8221;, given that &#8220;human being&#8221; is not a scientific construct, but is rather a philosophical/metaphysical concept, going far beyond empirical, materialistic scientific inquiry.</p>
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		<title>By: David Nickol</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Nickol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:17:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;The bloody deans, David, who are not wage earners.&lt;/i&gt;

Art Deco,

Is this a Marxist analysis?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>The bloody deans, David, who are not wage earners.</i></p>
<p>Art Deco,</p>
<p>Is this a Marxist analysis?</p>
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		<title>By: David Nickol</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Nickol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 13:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Joe Z,

The only thing that strikes me as more incredible than campus security believing they should do nothing when an official campus event is disrupted is that it is university policy that campus police should allow anti-religious or pro-choice groups to disrupt religious or pro-life events but not vice versa. My guess is that the campus police misunderstood their role. If there had been a public pro-life demonstration, and pro-choice counter-demonstrators came along, then it would not have been the job of campus police to take sides. Both sides would have a right to air their views. But in this case, the students who booked the room for the event had a right to expect campus police to protect the integrity of the event. The first duty of the police would be to make sure nobody gets hurt, but if they can expel the protestors and let the scheduled event continue, then that is their duty.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Z,</p>
<p>The only thing that strikes me as more incredible than campus security believing they should do nothing when an official campus event is disrupted is that it is university policy that campus police should allow anti-religious or pro-choice groups to disrupt religious or pro-life events but not vice versa. My guess is that the campus police misunderstood their role. If there had been a public pro-life demonstration, and pro-choice counter-demonstrators came along, then it would not have been the job of campus police to take sides. Both sides would have a right to air their views. But in this case, the students who booked the room for the event had a right to expect campus police to protect the integrity of the event. The first duty of the police would be to make sure nobody gets hurt, but if they can expel the protestors and let the scheduled event continue, then that is their duty.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Z</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe Z</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 10:55:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@David Nickol

&lt;i&gt;I don’t know why anyone would take this incident as any kind of evidence of anything. &lt;/i&gt;

Well, no single occurrence can by itself establish the existence of a trend, which sort of goes without saying. But one reason one might be extra concerned is that Canada has pretty poor support for free speech against political-correctness-monitors (aka &quot;Human Rights Commission&quot;), for whom truth or intent are not a defense, and in whose &quot;court&quot; the complainants incur no costs while the defendants/respondents have to bear their own. And note that the implied line of thought of these &quot;protestors&quot; is really just that of the commission.

It strikes me as incredible, in the literal sense of the term, that campus security for a university would need to be informed that presentations are not subject to being shut down willy-nilly by shouting protestors. It&#039;s hard for me to emphasize how naive your comment is on this point. It&#039;s simply not possible to believe that a university security department would actually have as a general rule of operation that any protestors can shut down any speech at any time, so long as they can make sufficient noise.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@David Nickol</p>
<p><i>I don’t know why anyone would take this incident as any kind of evidence of anything. </i></p>
<p>Well, no single occurrence can by itself establish the existence of a trend, which sort of goes without saying. But one reason one might be extra concerned is that Canada has pretty poor support for free speech against political-correctness-monitors (aka &#8220;Human Rights Commission&#8221;), for whom truth or intent are not a defense, and in whose &#8220;court&#8221; the complainants incur no costs while the defendants/respondents have to bear their own. And note that the implied line of thought of these &#8220;protestors&#8221; is really just that of the commission.</p>
<p>It strikes me as incredible, in the literal sense of the term, that campus security for a university would need to be informed that presentations are not subject to being shut down willy-nilly by shouting protestors. It&#8217;s hard for me to emphasize how naive your comment is on this point. It&#8217;s simply not possible to believe that a university security department would actually have as a general rule of operation that any protestors can shut down any speech at any time, so long as they can make sufficient noise.</p>
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		<title>By: Chairm</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chairm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 01:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This group of &quot;protesters&quot; have done this before ad have others on campus. This kind of misbehavior is intended to shut down speakers who show-up but also to discourage people from bothering to show-up to listen to the speakers in future.

Hence the supposed small audience. The disruptive tactic gets some results -- short and long term -- and so the inept security policies rewards the continued use of this tactic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This group of &#8220;protesters&#8221; have done this before ad have others on campus. This kind of misbehavior is intended to shut down speakers who show-up but also to discourage people from bothering to show-up to listen to the speakers in future.</p>
<p>Hence the supposed small audience. The disruptive tactic gets some results &#8212; short and long term &#8212; and so the inept security policies rewards the continued use of this tactic.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Matan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Matan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 01:07:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here is a more complete, 14-minute video of what went down. It starts getting interesting at the 1:20 mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_LGeq8gUPI]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a more complete, 14-minute video of what went down. It starts getting interesting at the 1:20 mark.<br />
<span class='embed-youtube' style='text-align:center; display: block;'><iframe class='youtube-player' type='text/html' width='640' height='390' src='http://www.youtube.com/embed/2_LGeq8gUPI?version=3&#038;rel=1&#038;fs=1&#038;showsearch=0&#038;showinfo=1&#038;iv_load_policy=1&#038;wmode=transparent' frameborder='0'></iframe></span></p>
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		<title>By: Ye Olde Statistician</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ye Olde Statistician</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Mar 2013 00:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Not that it makes a great deal of difference, but it looks as if Stephen Woodworth had a rather small audience to begin with.&lt;/i&gt;  

Not that it makes a great deal of difference, of course, but you thought you might mention that.
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Actually, shout-downs like this have become distressingly common on campuses of what used to be universities.  So have been confiscations or burnings of alternative student newspapers.  (&quot;It&#039;s a free newspaper, right?  So we took a lot of copies for our friends.&quot;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Not that it makes a great deal of difference, but it looks as if Stephen Woodworth had a rather small audience to begin with.</i>  </p>
<p>Not that it makes a great deal of difference, of course, but you thought you might mention that.<br />
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<p>Actually, shout-downs like this have become distressingly common on campuses of what used to be universities.  So have been confiscations or burnings of alternative student newspapers.  (&#8220;It&#8217;s a free newspaper, right?  So we took a lot of copies for our friends.&#8221;)</p>
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		<title>By: Art Deco</title>
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		<dc:creator>Art Deco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Mar 2013 21:12:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Could you explain what you mean by “bourgeois types”? I never understand this kind of rhetoric.&lt;/i&gt;

The bloody deans, David, who are not wage earners.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Could you explain what you mean by “bourgeois types”? I never understand this kind of rhetoric.</i></p>
<p>The bloody deans, David, who are not wage earners.</p>
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