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	<title>Comments on: Carl&#8217;s Rock Songbook #3:  The Zombies, &#8220;Friends of Mine&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Carl&#8217;s Rock Songbook #34: The Kinks, &#8220;Waterloo Sunset&#8221; &#187; Postmodern Conservative &#124; A First Things Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl&#8217;s Rock Songbook #34: The Kinks, &#8220;Waterloo Sunset&#8221; &#187; Postmodern Conservative &#124; A First Things Blog</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] particular lives of others, his own life, and our common modern life. We can see (shades of the Zombies&#8217; Odessey and Oracle) that couple-love is not the answer to the problem of modern loneliness, for Terry and Julie [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] particular lives of others, his own life, and our common modern life. We can see (shades of the Zombies&#8217; Odessey and Oracle) that couple-love is not the answer to the problem of modern loneliness, for Terry and Julie [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Scott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 21:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Awesome comment, John...love the foray in All the Kings&#039; Men...just noticed, since I&#039;ve been attending to other things. So glad you&#039;ve purchased the album. 

#4 is now up! 

Interesting that &quot;Time of the Season&quot; seems the outstanding song for you.  The record company idiotically released the grating anti-war song as the first single.  To my mind, &quot;This Will Be Our Year,&quot; is the most hit-possible standout, although &quot;Brief Candles,&quot; &quot;Beechwood Park,&quot; and even the cursory &quot;Hung up on a Dream,&quot; seem the most representive of the album&#039;s sentimental loveliness. And &quot;Rose for Emily&quot; keeps growing on me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome comment, John&#8230;love the foray in All the Kings&#8217; Men&#8230;just noticed, since I&#8217;ve been attending to other things. So glad you&#8217;ve purchased the album. </p>
<p>#4 is now up! </p>
<p>Interesting that &#8220;Time of the Season&#8221; seems the outstanding song for you.  The record company idiotically released the grating anti-war song as the first single.  To my mind, &#8220;This Will Be Our Year,&#8221; is the most hit-possible standout, although &#8220;Brief Candles,&#8221; &#8220;Beechwood Park,&#8221; and even the cursory &#8220;Hung up on a Dream,&#8221; seem the most representive of the album&#8217;s sentimental loveliness. And &#8220;Rose for Emily&#8221; keeps growing on me.</p>
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		<title>By: John Presnall</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Presnall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 May 2011 21:08:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Carl, It is good to leave us hanging--but really!--&quot;Time of the Season&quot; is an artistic failure?! I have baited breath now that I have purchased and listened to the album. It is still the best song to my initial hearing.

Even with your excellent account of this album, I am not persuaded of the importance of &quot;Odyssey and Oracle&quot; (whether in a formalistic, aesthetic or historical manner), but then there are other albums considered to be great &quot;concept&quot; albums, like the Kinks&#039; &quot;Something Else&quot; (I love the Kinks, nut not that one), to which I also remain tone deaf.

I think you are right that in terms of the songs on &quot;Odyssey and Oracle&quot; there is a build up to the conclusion of &quot;Time of the Season.&quot; It may be that this song seems to offer a false resolution of the problems the earlier songs--in your interpretations (which seem plausible to me). 

Your discussion of &quot;Friends of Mine&quot; and the &quot;unwillingly single, the gay, the spurned, the childless, the divorced, and the widowed&quot; is truly evocative of the sense of the whole album. But the sentiment of &quot;Time for the Season&quot; rings false when it is confronted with such partial and alienating situations. 

&quot;Changes&quot; shows a regret in the loss of simplicity for diamond-studded hipness. You were right to point to &quot;Caroline, No&quot;--but in making that allusion you show (in my mind) the superiority to the Beach Boys. That song, unlike &quot;Changes&quot; is inherently melancholic or nostalgic--what with its minor key, but also the sadness that golden hair has when it shines in the sunset of a California coast. All that glitters...and all that.

&quot;Changes&quot; shows the difference between the earlier and later girl as a process of &quot;socialization&quot; (as the sociologists would put it), whereas &quot;Caroline, No&quot; compares the present &quot;bad&quot; Caroline to the imagined &quot;good&quot; Caroline from the perspective of an indelibly stamped memory. It reminds me of the effect that the memory of swimming with a youthful Anne Stanton had on Jack Burden&#039;s character and belief in RPW&#039;s &quot;All the King&#039;s Men.&quot; His belief regarding Anne was &quot;trapped in amber,&quot; and it made for a certain naivete which was ultimately lethal even if beyond his power to stop.

Anyway, I look forward to your account of the artistic failure of &quot;Odyssey and Oracle.&quot; 

In the meantime, what is the difference between the oracle and the odyssey, and how do they play out on this album? Also, I look forward to Damon-esque accounts of the music too--if you wish to go there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carl, It is good to leave us hanging&#8211;but really!&#8211;&#8221;Time of the Season&#8221; is an artistic failure?! I have baited breath now that I have purchased and listened to the album. It is still the best song to my initial hearing.</p>
<p>Even with your excellent account of this album, I am not persuaded of the importance of &#8220;Odyssey and Oracle&#8221; (whether in a formalistic, aesthetic or historical manner), but then there are other albums considered to be great &#8220;concept&#8221; albums, like the Kinks&#8217; &#8220;Something Else&#8221; (I love the Kinks, nut not that one), to which I also remain tone deaf.</p>
<p>I think you are right that in terms of the songs on &#8220;Odyssey and Oracle&#8221; there is a build up to the conclusion of &#8220;Time of the Season.&#8221; It may be that this song seems to offer a false resolution of the problems the earlier songs&#8211;in your interpretations (which seem plausible to me). </p>
<p>Your discussion of &#8220;Friends of Mine&#8221; and the &#8220;unwillingly single, the gay, the spurned, the childless, the divorced, and the widowed&#8221; is truly evocative of the sense of the whole album. But the sentiment of &#8220;Time for the Season&#8221; rings false when it is confronted with such partial and alienating situations. </p>
<p>&#8220;Changes&#8221; shows a regret in the loss of simplicity for diamond-studded hipness. You were right to point to &#8220;Caroline, No&#8221;&#8211;but in making that allusion you show (in my mind) the superiority to the Beach Boys. That song, unlike &#8220;Changes&#8221; is inherently melancholic or nostalgic&#8211;what with its minor key, but also the sadness that golden hair has when it shines in the sunset of a California coast. All that glitters&#8230;and all that.</p>
<p>&#8220;Changes&#8221; shows the difference between the earlier and later girl as a process of &#8220;socialization&#8221; (as the sociologists would put it), whereas &#8220;Caroline, No&#8221; compares the present &#8220;bad&#8221; Caroline to the imagined &#8220;good&#8221; Caroline from the perspective of an indelibly stamped memory. It reminds me of the effect that the memory of swimming with a youthful Anne Stanton had on Jack Burden&#8217;s character and belief in RPW&#8217;s &#8220;All the King&#8217;s Men.&#8221; His belief regarding Anne was &#8220;trapped in amber,&#8221; and it made for a certain naivete which was ultimately lethal even if beyond his power to stop.</p>
<p>Anyway, I look forward to your account of the artistic failure of &#8220;Odyssey and Oracle.&#8221; </p>
<p>In the meantime, what is the difference between the oracle and the odyssey, and how do they play out on this album? Also, I look forward to Damon-esque accounts of the music too&#8211;if you wish to go there.</p>
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