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		<title>By: adrian</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/postmodernconservative/2011/05/22/brief-random-comments/comment-page-1/#comment-13809</link>
		<dc:creator>adrian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jun 2011 20:41:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hey check out my blog at http:imawesome9.blogspot.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey check out my blog at http:imawesome9.blogspot.com</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Snow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael Snow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 May 2011 21:56:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had the same question as Elton. What reasons are behind the &#039;Romney can&#039;t win&#039; scenario?

It seems that we need someone with proven real world experience, not another politician.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the same question as Elton. What reasons are behind the &#8216;Romney can&#8217;t win&#8217; scenario?</p>
<p>It seems that we need someone with proven real world experience, not another politician.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 16:08:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before moving on to synoptic books about American politics written by political scientists, you might touch on the question of a &quot;political&quot; approach, which presupposes a provisional answer to the question, &quot;what is politics?&quot; Ceaser&#039;s LD &amp; PS--a must for the list--does much of this work, but having the students read some selections from Crick&#039;s In Defence of Politics could be a good way to start the course (even though Crick&#039;s of course British).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before moving on to synoptic books about American politics written by political scientists, you might touch on the question of a &#8220;political&#8221; approach, which presupposes a provisional answer to the question, &#8220;what is politics?&#8221; Ceaser&#8217;s LD &amp; PS&#8211;a must for the list&#8211;does much of this work, but having the students read some selections from Crick&#8217;s In Defence of Politics could be a good way to start the course (even though Crick&#8217;s of course British).</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 15:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Samuel Beer&#039;s To Make a Nation
Shklar&#039;s Redeeming American Political Thought (essays)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Samuel Beer&#8217;s To Make a Nation<br />
Shklar&#8217;s Redeeming American Political Thought (essays)</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Lawler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Lawler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 14:22:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The point is that the &quot;capstone&quot; should lead a big-picture direction.  And in political science--which makes even Lasch marginal (he&#039;s in, though).  Let me think about Diggins.  Other ideas that came thru on the email, pretty obvious ones--Kass, Fukuyama, Elshtain, Deneen, Robby George.  None of Jean&#039;s books fits the bill, so I&#039;m still gender-challenged on this thing.  John sure knows a lot of books!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The point is that the &#8220;capstone&#8221; should lead a big-picture direction.  And in political science&#8211;which makes even Lasch marginal (he&#8217;s in, though).  Let me think about Diggins.  Other ideas that came thru on the email, pretty obvious ones&#8211;Kass, Fukuyama, Elshtain, Deneen, Robby George.  None of Jean&#8217;s books fits the bill, so I&#8217;m still gender-challenged on this thing.  John sure knows a lot of books!</p>
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		<title>By: John Presnall</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Presnall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 08:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More liberal synopses of American politics may be found in James Morone and Michael Kazin and John Patrick Diggins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More liberal synopses of American politics may be found in James Morone and Michael Kazin and John Patrick Diggins.</p>
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		<title>By: John Presnall</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Presnall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 May 2011 08:33:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes Ceaser is a must, and maybe the new book--Designing a Polity--is better (it is very good) regarding wearing well compared to his others, but it seems to be more of a collection of essays than a wholly conceived book. LD &amp; PS is very good, but in terms of what Peter is looking for, i.e., synoptic, I&#039;m not sure if even it fits. Nature and History in American Political Development is excellent, but it is more of an extended essay. The most synoptic of Ceaser seems to be Reconstructing America, but that may lead you too far afield. Nonetheless, Ceaser is a must even if you only take parts of his books.

But when you start thinking of parts, well then there are far too many excellent writers who understand politics and American politics and government and law and culture, etc. and from whom you could cull an essay here or there for your purposes. I need not list names here.

When it comes to synoptic books--let alone synoptic books by legendary professors--then it is hard to say. I assume you want the breadth of a text book, but with the serious point of view and argument that shows an awareness of political philosophy to boot. This is hard to do. Sandel&#039;s Democracy&#039;s Discontent fits this bill, but I&#039;m not sure at the end of the day how good it is. His book Justice raises all sorts of interesting and profound conundrums, but if you use it, I fear you may get bogged down in the ethics of price gouging without ever getting anywhere else. However, that may be appropriate.

Finding a good synoptic book is difficult. For instance, I learned much from reading VL Parrington, but I would never assign that book except for a PhD student. It generalizes from an obvious and perhaps dated point of view. Economic determinism fought out between so-called Jeffersonian and Hamiltonian positions only goes so far. You may as well read Herbert Croly even if he is not as comprehensive in his knowledge of the actual literature as Parrington. The same might be said for Beard, Becker, Hofstadter, Hartz, etc., and that only includes synoptic approaches to American politics.

Pangle&#039;s book on the Ennobling of Democracy is good, but assumes a lot of prior reading too. And when it comes to synoptic and legendary, Lasch&#039;s The True and Only Heaven certainly fits. Who has carried on his concern for what he calls &quot;populism&quot; since him--and I don&#039;t mean the Lawrence Goodwyn take on populism.

As far as liberals go Walzer and Sandel are good. James P. Young&#039;s Reconsidering American Liberalism is useful and comprehensive. More tendentious but instructive from the liberal end is John McGowan&#039;s American Liberalism. But neither Young nor McGowan are legendary. Regarding the founding there are the very good books by Alan Gibson.

Perhaps you ought to stick to your own collection of primary sources in American Political Rhetoric and then allow those pieces to be occasions for which you could fill in the blanks.

Of course, all this raises a good question regarding what is a really good synoptic book on politics, and since I&#039;ve focused on it--American politics.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes Ceaser is a must, and maybe the new book&#8211;Designing a Polity&#8211;is better (it is very good) regarding wearing well compared to his others, but it seems to be more of a collection of essays than a wholly conceived book. LD &amp; PS is very good, but in terms of what Peter is looking for, i.e., synoptic, I&#8217;m not sure if even it fits. Nature and History in American Political Development is excellent, but it is more of an extended essay. The most synoptic of Ceaser seems to be Reconstructing America, but that may lead you too far afield. Nonetheless, Ceaser is a must even if you only take parts of his books.</p>
<p>But when you start thinking of parts, well then there are far too many excellent writers who understand politics and American politics and government and law and culture, etc. and from whom you could cull an essay here or there for your purposes. I need not list names here.</p>
<p>When it comes to synoptic books&#8211;let alone synoptic books by legendary professors&#8211;then it is hard to say. I assume you want the breadth of a text book, but with the serious point of view and argument that shows an awareness of political philosophy to boot. This is hard to do. Sandel&#8217;s Democracy&#8217;s Discontent fits this bill, but I&#8217;m not sure at the end of the day how good it is. His book Justice raises all sorts of interesting and profound conundrums, but if you use it, I fear you may get bogged down in the ethics of price gouging without ever getting anywhere else. However, that may be appropriate.</p>
<p>Finding a good synoptic book is difficult. For instance, I learned much from reading VL Parrington, but I would never assign that book except for a PhD student. It generalizes from an obvious and perhaps dated point of view. Economic determinism fought out between so-called Jeffersonian and Hamiltonian positions only goes so far. You may as well read Herbert Croly even if he is not as comprehensive in his knowledge of the actual literature as Parrington. The same might be said for Beard, Becker, Hofstadter, Hartz, etc., and that only includes synoptic approaches to American politics.</p>
<p>Pangle&#8217;s book on the Ennobling of Democracy is good, but assumes a lot of prior reading too. And when it comes to synoptic and legendary, Lasch&#8217;s The True and Only Heaven certainly fits. Who has carried on his concern for what he calls &#8220;populism&#8221; since him&#8211;and I don&#8217;t mean the Lawrence Goodwyn take on populism.</p>
<p>As far as liberals go Walzer and Sandel are good. James P. Young&#8217;s Reconsidering American Liberalism is useful and comprehensive. More tendentious but instructive from the liberal end is John McGowan&#8217;s American Liberalism. But neither Young nor McGowan are legendary. Regarding the founding there are the very good books by Alan Gibson.</p>
<p>Perhaps you ought to stick to your own collection of primary sources in American Political Rhetoric and then allow those pieces to be occasions for which you could fill in the blanks.</p>
<p>Of course, all this raises a good question regarding what is a really good synoptic book on politics, and since I&#8217;ve focused on it&#8211;American politics.</p>
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		<title>By: Sara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 21:20:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would like to to know a little more about the course&#039;s organizing concept (in addition to the eminent teacher criterion). Is the primary point to study methodology and approaches to American politics?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to to know a little more about the course&#8217;s organizing concept (in addition to the eminent teacher criterion). Is the primary point to study methodology and approaches to American politics?</p>
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		<title>By: paul seaton</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul seaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 19:30:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Judith Shklar (&#039;liberalism of/against cruelty&#039;)?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Judith Shklar (&#8216;liberalism of/against cruelty&#8217;)?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Lawler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Lawler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 May 2011 17:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sandel is in--maybe the new book on JUSTICE reflects his teaching magic, or even the little book on DESIGNER BABIES and such, which is left cohen/kass/lawler light and at least raises cool issues.  To show what a high-tech teacher I can be, one compromise on Ceaser is to xerox the parts of LD and PS I like and parts of the new book--the nonfoundationalism and reaganism and conservatism stuff.  Just don&#039;t like Walzer.  Maybe George Grant? I also need me A GOOD WOMAN.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sandel is in&#8211;maybe the new book on JUSTICE reflects his teaching magic, or even the little book on DESIGNER BABIES and such, which is left cohen/kass/lawler light and at least raises cool issues.  To show what a high-tech teacher I can be, one compromise on Ceaser is to xerox the parts of LD and PS I like and parts of the new book&#8211;the nonfoundationalism and reaganism and conservatism stuff.  Just don&#8217;t like Walzer.  Maybe George Grant? I also need me A GOOD WOMAN.</p>
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