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		<title>By: Raymond Takashi Swenson</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/postmodernconservative/2011/05/23/huntsman/comment-page-1/#comment-13711</link>
		<dc:creator>Raymond Takashi Swenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2011 23:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[One of the ironies of Huntsman running for president is that he could not likely win statewide office in Utah if he were running there again, given the conservative shift that has taken place in reaction to the leftward movement of the Obama administration and the Democrats in Congress.  That strenghtened conservatism ousted a long-time conservative to moderate Senator Bob Bennett, son of another long-time Utah senator.  It seems unlikely that Huntsman, who was &quot;conservative&quot; only in contrast to his Democratic opponents in the governor race, could survive a Republican primary for the Senate seat in Utah.  I think it is pretty clear that, despite his two elections to the governorship in Utah, Huntsman would run second to Romney in a presidential primary there, in the same way that McCain (whose election campaign Huntsman co-chaired) did in 2008.  

So given the fact that Huntsman has no strong base in the one state where he has the strongest political ties, why does he think he can convince the rest of the country&#039;s Republicans to choose him as their standard bearer?  Contrary to Mark, I think Huntsman&#039;s resume is pretty substantial, and being a fluent Chinese-speaking US ambassador to first Singapore and then to China, and a China specialist on the US trade negotiation team, is a meaningful credential in a time when China is playing an increasingly crucial role in the US economy.  But Huntsman&#039;s political position is one that the Tea Party movement, which boosted the GOP to a takeover of the House of Representatives, is not going to embrace, so Huntsman is trying to count on the old pre-Tea Party Republican establishment--namely, the people who lost the presidency and House and Senate to the Democrats in 2008--to put him over the top.  Huntsman would be McCain redux.  

As for Huntsman&#039;s Mormon affiliation--voters in Utah are actually pretty tolerant in their elected officials of a lack of fully enthusiastic engagement in Mormon religious beliefs and practices.  They three times elected Cal Rampton, a hard-drinking unobservant Mormon, to the governorship, and also have elected a Jew and a Presbyterian to that office.  But Mormons can tell from the way Huntsman talks about his Mormon affiliation in interviews that he is not fully engaged in those beliefs.  I don&#039;t think Mormons are going to feel any impulse to go out of their way to support Huntsman financially or as volunteers, unless they agree with his political positions.  So Huntsman will have the disadvantages of an association with Mormonism in the minds of anti-Mormon Evangelicals, and no benefit of support from fellow Mormons viewing him as a sort of standard-bearer who might dispel misconceptions about Mormons simply by being an excellent national leader.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One of the ironies of Huntsman running for president is that he could not likely win statewide office in Utah if he were running there again, given the conservative shift that has taken place in reaction to the leftward movement of the Obama administration and the Democrats in Congress.  That strenghtened conservatism ousted a long-time conservative to moderate Senator Bob Bennett, son of another long-time Utah senator.  It seems unlikely that Huntsman, who was &#8220;conservative&#8221; only in contrast to his Democratic opponents in the governor race, could survive a Republican primary for the Senate seat in Utah.  I think it is pretty clear that, despite his two elections to the governorship in Utah, Huntsman would run second to Romney in a presidential primary there, in the same way that McCain (whose election campaign Huntsman co-chaired) did in 2008.  </p>
<p>So given the fact that Huntsman has no strong base in the one state where he has the strongest political ties, why does he think he can convince the rest of the country&#8217;s Republicans to choose him as their standard bearer?  Contrary to Mark, I think Huntsman&#8217;s resume is pretty substantial, and being a fluent Chinese-speaking US ambassador to first Singapore and then to China, and a China specialist on the US trade negotiation team, is a meaningful credential in a time when China is playing an increasingly crucial role in the US economy.  But Huntsman&#8217;s political position is one that the Tea Party movement, which boosted the GOP to a takeover of the House of Representatives, is not going to embrace, so Huntsman is trying to count on the old pre-Tea Party Republican establishment&#8211;namely, the people who lost the presidency and House and Senate to the Democrats in 2008&#8211;to put him over the top.  Huntsman would be McCain redux.  </p>
<p>As for Huntsman&#8217;s Mormon affiliation&#8211;voters in Utah are actually pretty tolerant in their elected officials of a lack of fully enthusiastic engagement in Mormon religious beliefs and practices.  They three times elected Cal Rampton, a hard-drinking unobservant Mormon, to the governorship, and also have elected a Jew and a Presbyterian to that office.  But Mormons can tell from the way Huntsman talks about his Mormon affiliation in interviews that he is not fully engaged in those beliefs.  I don&#8217;t think Mormons are going to feel any impulse to go out of their way to support Huntsman financially or as volunteers, unless they agree with his political positions.  So Huntsman will have the disadvantages of an association with Mormonism in the minds of anti-Mormon Evangelicals, and no benefit of support from fellow Mormons viewing him as a sort of standard-bearer who might dispel misconceptions about Mormons simply by being an excellent national leader.</p>
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		<title>By: David Elton</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/postmodernconservative/2011/05/23/huntsman/comment-page-1/#comment-13593</link>
		<dc:creator>David Elton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 23:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I agree with Mark.  This guy came out of left field.  Is this a malicious diversion engineered by the dastardly MSM?  Stick with Mitt.  He&#039;s a solid guy.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with Mark.  This guy came out of left field.  Is this a malicious diversion engineered by the dastardly MSM?  Stick with Mitt.  He&#8217;s a solid guy.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/postmodernconservative/2011/05/23/huntsman/comment-page-1/#comment-13589</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 May 2011 18:02:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Every time I hear Huntsman&#039;s name, I feel like saying, Really!?!  Who is behind the guy? I&#039;m far from a Romney person, but take everything Romney has ever done and Huntsman is a very pale comparison.  Romney got elected governor in MA as a Republican.  Huntsman, Utah, like that is tough for a Republican.    Arguably every job he&#039;s ever had has come from his family and come with no real responsibility or accountability.  (Deputy Trade rep in the GWB admin!?!)  Romney&#039;s resume may get its start in his family, but taking on a flailing olympics and being front and center in capital markets like Romney will give you accountability real fast.  Its like a joke - oh, you don&#039;t want the real thing, well let&#039;s see if we can sell you the cheap replacement made with plastic parts but a really cool motorcycle accessory.  Sorry, no sale.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time I hear Huntsman&#8217;s name, I feel like saying, Really!?!  Who is behind the guy? I&#8217;m far from a Romney person, but take everything Romney has ever done and Huntsman is a very pale comparison.  Romney got elected governor in MA as a Republican.  Huntsman, Utah, like that is tough for a Republican.    Arguably every job he&#8217;s ever had has come from his family and come with no real responsibility or accountability.  (Deputy Trade rep in the GWB admin!?!)  Romney&#8217;s resume may get its start in his family, but taking on a flailing olympics and being front and center in capital markets like Romney will give you accountability real fast.  Its like a joke &#8211; oh, you don&#8217;t want the real thing, well let&#8217;s see if we can sell you the cheap replacement made with plastic parts but a really cool motorcycle accessory.  Sorry, no sale.</p>
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