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		<title>By: Peter Lawler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Lawler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Oct 2012 06:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Biden did do well with the funding letter and defusing any criticism of the stimulus.  In general, he was on the offensive most of the night.  Anyone who hear the debate on the radio must have thought he was winning.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biden did do well with the funding letter and defusing any criticism of the stimulus.  In general, he was on the offensive most of the night.  Anyone who hear the debate on the radio must have thought he was winning.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/postmodernconservative/2012/10/11/the-vp-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-28622</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 19:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Debate prep teams might take notice to the point Biden made regarding the federal funds letter where Ryan wanted a share for his constituents. Ryan might have used former American league manager Sparky Anderson&#039;s philosophy. Sparky didn&#039;t believe in his league&#039;s designated batter rule. But just because he didn&#039;t believe in that rule, he saw no reason to not becoming the best at stratagies that would work for the team in a winning way within that rule]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Debate prep teams might take notice to the point Biden made regarding the federal funds letter where Ryan wanted a share for his constituents. Ryan might have used former American league manager Sparky Anderson&#8217;s philosophy. Sparky didn&#8217;t believe in his league&#8217;s designated batter rule. But just because he didn&#8217;t believe in that rule, he saw no reason to not becoming the best at stratagies that would work for the team in a winning way within that rule</p>
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		<title>By: Brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 17:00:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Biden did seem more &quot;Protestant&quot; (and effective) in respecting the individual right of conscience, and in a way that was consistent with Obama&#039;s &quot;above my pay grade&quot; argument. Other than mentioning the whole unelected judges thing, Ryan didn&#039;t tell us that the debate over abortion ought to continue in the states. You might even say Biden&#039;s characterization of a Romney/Ryan administration that would appoint Borkian judges who would &quot;outlaw&quot; abortion kind of stuck.  

On a lighter note, did anyone else notice the bruises from Biden&#039;s botox injections my wife pointed out to me? Scary stuff.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Biden did seem more &#8220;Protestant&#8221; (and effective) in respecting the individual right of conscience, and in a way that was consistent with Obama&#8217;s &#8220;above my pay grade&#8221; argument. Other than mentioning the whole unelected judges thing, Ryan didn&#8217;t tell us that the debate over abortion ought to continue in the states. You might even say Biden&#8217;s characterization of a Romney/Ryan administration that would appoint Borkian judges who would &#8220;outlaw&#8221; abortion kind of stuck.  </p>
<p>On a lighter note, did anyone else notice the bruises from Biden&#8217;s botox injections my wife pointed out to me? Scary stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/postmodernconservative/2012/10/11/the-vp-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-28617</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 16:50:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The reason that Biden finally got control of his smirking face late in the game was because he  thought as I did that, he scored a credible point about Afganistan. Previous to that he fearfully thought rightly that this young nice young man Ryan was going to completly outclass him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason that Biden finally got control of his smirking face late in the game was because he  thought as I did that, he scored a credible point about Afganistan. Previous to that he fearfully thought rightly that this young nice young man Ryan was going to completly outclass him.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 15:59:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[biden says in effect that &quot;i personally believe killing babies at week 20 of gestation is unjust killing.  but i&#039;m not going to impose the fact that i believe it&#039;s unjust killing on you.&quot;  

does this even make sense?  if you think it&#039;s unjust killing, then the obvious thing to do is to protest it vehemently.  why wouldn&#039;t you?

notice the question shifting from &quot;is it unjust killing?&quot; to the inane &quot;what would i do in a pluralistic society?&quot;  good grief, vp.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>biden says in effect that &#8220;i personally believe killing babies at week 20 of gestation is unjust killing.  but i&#8217;m not going to impose the fact that i believe it&#8217;s unjust killing on you.&#8221;  </p>
<p>does this even make sense?  if you think it&#8217;s unjust killing, then the obvious thing to do is to protest it vehemently.  why wouldn&#8217;t you?</p>
<p>notice the question shifting from &#8220;is it unjust killing?&#8221; to the inane &#8220;what would i do in a pluralistic society?&#8221;  good grief, vp.</p>
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		<title>By: Jy</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/postmodernconservative/2012/10/11/the-vp-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-28608</link>
		<dc:creator>Jy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 14:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I did fear that Ryan&#039;s youth would hurt his performance, at least as far as ethos goes. Alas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did fear that Ryan&#8217;s youth would hurt his performance, at least as far as ethos goes. Alas.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/postmodernconservative/2012/10/11/the-vp-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-28606</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 13:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m incapable of judging that thing because I just can&#039;t conceive of why anyone takes Slow Joe seriously.  It&#039;s truly a sign of a decadent society that someone like him isn&#039;t laughed off stage.

Well, no one cares about VPs anyway, which I guess is why it&#039;s the perfect job for Joe...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m incapable of judging that thing because I just can&#8217;t conceive of why anyone takes Slow Joe seriously.  It&#8217;s truly a sign of a decadent society that someone like him isn&#8217;t laughed off stage.</p>
<p>Well, no one cares about VPs anyway, which I guess is why it&#8217;s the perfect job for Joe&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: VP debate: Biden and Ryan address the topic of abortion &#8211; Examiner.com &#124; Health News</title>
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		<dc:creator>VP debate: Biden and Ryan address the topic of abortion &#8211; Examiner.com &#124; Health News</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 05:43:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: CJ Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/postmodernconservative/2012/10/11/the-vp-debate/comment-page-1/#comment-28600</link>
		<dc:creator>CJ Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Oct 2012 04:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &quot;Catholic&quot; question was handled by Biden with a classic replay of the Cuomo/Kennedy at Houston gambit. 

Biden at once said &quot;My religion defines who I am,&quot; and at the same time said his beliefs will not in any way be allowed to &quot;impose&quot; upon others in the capacity of his job, namely with regard to pro-life issues. What you have there is an &quot;inner self&quot; still agrees with Catholicism, and an &quot;outer self&quot; that agrees and acts in contradiction to it. That&#039;s a fundamentally non-Catholic anthropology, it&#039;s straight out of Luther. A real Catholic would say that we don&#039;t have divided selves, Biden is responsible for his whole life, and if he means what he says about his private beliefs his conscience should haunt him about the decisions he alienates from it.

Archbishop Chaput has a much more nuanced view on all these matters than I do, I&#039;m just shooting my mouth off on this issue. But I&#039;ll stand by the fact that there&#039;s something fundamentally wrong with Biden&#039;s view of his Catholic beliefs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;Catholic&#8221; question was handled by Biden with a classic replay of the Cuomo/Kennedy at Houston gambit. </p>
<p>Biden at once said &#8220;My religion defines who I am,&#8221; and at the same time said his beliefs will not in any way be allowed to &#8220;impose&#8221; upon others in the capacity of his job, namely with regard to pro-life issues. What you have there is an &#8220;inner self&#8221; still agrees with Catholicism, and an &#8220;outer self&#8221; that agrees and acts in contradiction to it. That&#8217;s a fundamentally non-Catholic anthropology, it&#8217;s straight out of Luther. A real Catholic would say that we don&#8217;t have divided selves, Biden is responsible for his whole life, and if he means what he says about his private beliefs his conscience should haunt him about the decisions he alienates from it.</p>
<p>Archbishop Chaput has a much more nuanced view on all these matters than I do, I&#8217;m just shooting my mouth off on this issue. But I&#8217;ll stand by the fact that there&#8217;s something fundamentally wrong with Biden&#8217;s view of his Catholic beliefs.</p>
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