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	<title>Comments on: Memo From Julia: Be A Political Party And Not A Business Lobby</title>
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		<title>By: FRIDAY MORNING GOD &#38; CAESAR EDITION &#124; Big Pulpit</title>
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		<dc:creator>FRIDAY MORNING GOD &#38; CAESAR EDITION &#124; Big Pulpit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 14:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Memo From Julia &#8211; Pete Spiliakos, PoMoCon [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Pete Spiliakos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Spiliakos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2012 22:41:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Brian, Mrsschiavolin, there seems to be sound social science evidence that moving toward a more education and skills-based policy would be beneficial to the US  http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cr_64.htm

John, at last count (that I checked), Romney was losing the popular vote by 3.4% and only won two states that McCain lost under the most adverse circumstances a Republican has seen in over forty years.  

&quot;But I am slightly suprised that no one did an After Action Review and concluded that at least rhetorically in terms of defending Big Business and Capital&quot;

Yuu&#039;re probably pretty much alone in that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, Mrsschiavolin, there seems to be sound social science evidence that moving toward a more education and skills-based policy would be beneficial to the US  <a href="http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cr_64.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.manhattan-institute.org/html/cr_64.htm</a></p>
<p>John, at last count (that I checked), Romney was losing the popular vote by 3.4% and only won two states that McCain lost under the most adverse circumstances a Republican has seen in over forty years.  </p>
<p>&#8220;But I am slightly suprised that no one did an After Action Review and concluded that at least rhetorically in terms of defending Big Business and Capital&#8221;</p>
<p>Yuu&#8217;re probably pretty much alone in that.</p>
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		<title>By: John Lewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 20:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well Pete, Romney didn&#039;t loose by that much running a republican campaign essentially as the head of a business lobby. 

Given the levels of exageration and flights of fancy, which &quot;opinion&quot; copyright tends to engender, I am not suprised....But I am slightly suprised that no one did an After Action Review and concluded that at least rhetorically in terms of defending Big Business and Capital, the Romney result was a smashing sucess. Romney told some interesting truths vis a vis representation. 

I think I agree in part with what you are saying. I didn&#039;t vote for Romney because I was worried about giving that kind of mandate to such a pure technocratic &quot;Right&quot;.  Understood in this way, I am certainly an independent. 

That is you don&#039;t really absolutely know what the &quot;Right&quot; is thinking until you see litigation.  What does the &quot;Right&quot; mean anyways (outside of its permutations in copyright?)  Typically a business or business lobby will be on the &quot;Right&quot;(i.e. be a defendant) and on the &quot;Left&quot; there will be a (plaintiff). 

Sierra Club(a fine progressive institution) vs. GE (a fine capitalist firm). 

The world is a complex place, but a great deal of clarity can come from this. Also a great deal of flip flopping on appeal depending who prevails!(lol)....but seriously, did you expect a word that can&#039;t be more sophisticated than your right or left hand to explain all of politics?(too much &quot;left&quot; and &quot;right&quot; can be like saying you can count because you have 10 fingers).

On the other hand in a contest between Obama and Romney (Romney was somewhat on the Left in so far as it amounted to a suit against the incumbent), but more importantly Romney was on the &quot;Right&quot; as a sort of business firm lobbying for K street.  Sure it is Crony Capitalism....but what seperates my theoretical views on policy from those of Romney?  Romney&#039;s views are already enabled(a huge virtue of &quot;Crony Capitalism&quot;), that is Romney&#039;s policy points on energy actually represented real projects that businesses wanted to develop, but which were held back from the &quot;Left&quot;, by either a State Actor (EPA)...or a progressive interest group, i.e. &quot;Sierra Club&quot;. Key Example: Romney wanted to build the Keystone XXL pipeline. (which as it turns out was actually on the &quot;Right&quot; with both of these groups on the &quot;Left&quot;).]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Pete, Romney didn&#8217;t loose by that much running a republican campaign essentially as the head of a business lobby. </p>
<p>Given the levels of exageration and flights of fancy, which &#8220;opinion&#8221; copyright tends to engender, I am not suprised&#8230;.But I am slightly suprised that no one did an After Action Review and concluded that at least rhetorically in terms of defending Big Business and Capital, the Romney result was a smashing sucess. Romney told some interesting truths vis a vis representation. </p>
<p>I think I agree in part with what you are saying. I didn&#8217;t vote for Romney because I was worried about giving that kind of mandate to such a pure technocratic &#8220;Right&#8221;.  Understood in this way, I am certainly an independent. </p>
<p>That is you don&#8217;t really absolutely know what the &#8220;Right&#8221; is thinking until you see litigation.  What does the &#8220;Right&#8221; mean anyways (outside of its permutations in copyright?)  Typically a business or business lobby will be on the &#8220;Right&#8221;(i.e. be a defendant) and on the &#8220;Left&#8221; there will be a (plaintiff). </p>
<p>Sierra Club(a fine progressive institution) vs. GE (a fine capitalist firm). </p>
<p>The world is a complex place, but a great deal of clarity can come from this. Also a great deal of flip flopping on appeal depending who prevails!(lol)&#8230;.but seriously, did you expect a word that can&#8217;t be more sophisticated than your right or left hand to explain all of politics?(too much &#8220;left&#8221; and &#8220;right&#8221; can be like saying you can count because you have 10 fingers).</p>
<p>On the other hand in a contest between Obama and Romney (Romney was somewhat on the Left in so far as it amounted to a suit against the incumbent), but more importantly Romney was on the &#8220;Right&#8221; as a sort of business firm lobbying for K street.  Sure it is Crony Capitalism&#8230;.but what seperates my theoretical views on policy from those of Romney?  Romney&#8217;s views are already enabled(a huge virtue of &#8220;Crony Capitalism&#8221;), that is Romney&#8217;s policy points on energy actually represented real projects that businesses wanted to develop, but which were held back from the &#8220;Left&#8221;, by either a State Actor (EPA)&#8230;or a progressive interest group, i.e. &#8220;Sierra Club&#8221;. Key Example: Romney wanted to build the Keystone XXL pipeline. (which as it turns out was actually on the &#8220;Right&#8221; with both of these groups on the &#8220;Left&#8221;).</p>
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		<title>By: Rogue Elephant</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rogue Elephant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:59:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article.  We wrote something similar on our blog at ConservativeIsland.com on why Romney lost the election, and where the Republicans should go from here.  There are definite changes that need to be made.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article.  We wrote something similar on our blog at ConservativeIsland.com on why Romney lost the election, and where the Republicans should go from here.  There are definite changes that need to be made.</p>
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		<title>By: Mrsschiavolin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mrsschiavolin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 18:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m with Brian. All my ancestors were European peasants when they came to this country, and were blessed by the American dream. Seems unfitting to limit that dream to a small range of professionals.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Brian. All my ancestors were European peasants when they came to this country, and were blessed by the American dream. Seems unfitting to limit that dream to a small range of professionals.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2012 01:34:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Most Americans would prefer to move American immigration policy in the direction of higher skill, higher education immigrants.&quot;

I&#039;ve never understood this at all.  This is not the sort of folks who built America.  Give me the hardest working, most self-sufficient and driven immigrants, NOT the ones with the fanciest credentials.  But then, the last five years or so have shown me time and time again that I&#039;m radically out of step with the times...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Most Americans would prefer to move American immigration policy in the direction of higher skill, higher education immigrants.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never understood this at all.  This is not the sort of folks who built America.  Give me the hardest working, most self-sufficient and driven immigrants, NOT the ones with the fanciest credentials.  But then, the last five years or so have shown me time and time again that I&#8217;m radically out of step with the times&#8230;</p>
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