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		<title>By: MikeMahoney</title>
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		<dc:creator>MikeMahoney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The R message to working and poor Americans was trickle down theory summed up in the rising tide lifts all boats. Trickle down didn&#039;t work or at least didn&#039;t last. It was comfy for Rs to go there because they didn&#039;t have to do anything but help the financial, entrprenurial and corporate class. The rest would take care of itself. 
I actually believe the working class would still embrace it after they witness some harsh justice to those responsible for the last dozen years of fiscal and monetary ineptitude get their due. Until then, expect more electroal punishment from those groups.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The R message to working and poor Americans was trickle down theory summed up in the rising tide lifts all boats. Trickle down didn&#8217;t work or at least didn&#8217;t last. It was comfy for Rs to go there because they didn&#8217;t have to do anything but help the financial, entrprenurial and corporate class. The rest would take care of itself.<br />
I actually believe the working class would still embrace it after they witness some harsh justice to those responsible for the last dozen years of fiscal and monetary ineptitude get their due. Until then, expect more electroal punishment from those groups.</p>
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		<title>By: Cbalducc</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cbalducc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2012 21:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think Republican Scott Brown&#039;s election to replace the late Senator Edward Kennedy in Massachusetts was a fluke.  If Kennedy had resigned when he was dying and groomed or handpicked someone to replace him, it is highly unlikely Brown or any other Republican in Massachusetts could have won that seat.  Instead, the Massachusetts Democratic machine seemed blindsided by Kennedy&#039;s death and was unable to find a good candidate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Republican Scott Brown&#8217;s election to replace the late Senator Edward Kennedy in Massachusetts was a fluke.  If Kennedy had resigned when he was dying and groomed or handpicked someone to replace him, it is highly unlikely Brown or any other Republican in Massachusetts could have won that seat.  Instead, the Massachusetts Democratic machine seemed blindsided by Kennedy&#8217;s death and was unable to find a good candidate.</p>
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		<title>By: SUNDAY GOD &#38; CAESAR EDITION &#124; Big Pulpit</title>
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		<dc:creator>SUNDAY GOD &#38; CAESAR EDITION &#124; Big Pulpit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 18:42:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Pete Spiliakos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Spiliakos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Dec 2012 01:18:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[MPB, 

&quot;One could dislike him remaining in the election while also being disturbed by the glee some took in his existence as the “rape” guy.&quot;

Sure, but after the initial incident, the greatest gift he could give to those who took glee at his shame was to stay in the race and ensure that the Missouri Senate seat went to a Democrat rather than (for instance) a pro-life woman (though there was no guarantee that would happen either but I liked Ann Wagner&#039;s chances a lot better than Akin&#039;s.)

I don&#039;t blame Akin for wanting to rescue his name.  I blame him for putting his pride ahead of his alleged principles when it had become obvious he was politically toxic to the electorate.  In most respects, I think that his refusal to leave and thereby concede a winnable seat was worse than his original statement.  We all have gaps in our knowledge.  We live and learn.  We all sometimes say things that come out wrong.  I always sympathized with Rick Perry over his slips of the tongue (though not the times when he showed obvious lack of preparation.)  Akin had an especially unfortunate combination of the two.  But the refusal to leave took place over a period of weeks.  He had a lot of time to think things through and selfishness won out (whatever the rationalizations to get there).  That is a lot tougher to excuse.    

On the other hand:

1.  He had every legal right to stay in.

2.  He was responsible (very probably) for the loss of a Senate seat, and not the defeat of Linda Lingle, Scott Brown and Mitt Romney.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MPB, </p>
<p>&#8220;One could dislike him remaining in the election while also being disturbed by the glee some took in his existence as the “rape” guy.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sure, but after the initial incident, the greatest gift he could give to those who took glee at his shame was to stay in the race and ensure that the Missouri Senate seat went to a Democrat rather than (for instance) a pro-life woman (though there was no guarantee that would happen either but I liked Ann Wagner&#8217;s chances a lot better than Akin&#8217;s.)</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t blame Akin for wanting to rescue his name.  I blame him for putting his pride ahead of his alleged principles when it had become obvious he was politically toxic to the electorate.  In most respects, I think that his refusal to leave and thereby concede a winnable seat was worse than his original statement.  We all have gaps in our knowledge.  We live and learn.  We all sometimes say things that come out wrong.  I always sympathized with Rick Perry over his slips of the tongue (though not the times when he showed obvious lack of preparation.)  Akin had an especially unfortunate combination of the two.  But the refusal to leave took place over a period of weeks.  He had a lot of time to think things through and selfishness won out (whatever the rationalizations to get there).  That is a lot tougher to excuse.    </p>
<p>On the other hand:</p>
<p>1.  He had every legal right to stay in.</p>
<p>2.  He was responsible (very probably) for the loss of a Senate seat, and not the defeat of Linda Lingle, Scott Brown and Mitt Romney.</p>
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		<title>By: MPB</title>
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		<dc:creator>MPB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 13:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mr. Spiliakos,

Besides his own vanity, Mr.Akin decided to stay in to salvage his name. He obviously didn&#039;t want to forever be known as the &quot;rape guy&quot; and his position was the last bully pulpit he was ever going to get to attempt such rehabilitation. 

Do not discount that politic which is post-Christian does not have the same sense of mercy and forgiveness that even a vainglorious man deserves. One could dislike him remaining in the election while also being disturbed by the glee some took in his existence as the &quot;rape&quot; guy. 

Yes, only a prideful fool would have thought he could rescue his name, but it&#039;s hard to fault him for trying to maintain his brand...if this election showed anything to me, it was about the importance of brand to the electorate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Spiliakos,</p>
<p>Besides his own vanity, Mr.Akin decided to stay in to salvage his name. He obviously didn&#8217;t want to forever be known as the &#8220;rape guy&#8221; and his position was the last bully pulpit he was ever going to get to attempt such rehabilitation. </p>
<p>Do not discount that politic which is post-Christian does not have the same sense of mercy and forgiveness that even a vainglorious man deserves. One could dislike him remaining in the election while also being disturbed by the glee some took in his existence as the &#8220;rape&#8221; guy. </p>
<p>Yes, only a prideful fool would have thought he could rescue his name, but it&#8217;s hard to fault him for trying to maintain his brand&#8230;if this election showed anything to me, it was about the importance of brand to the electorate.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Spiliakos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Spiliakos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Dec 2012 01:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[DJF, Yeah, Akin blew the Missouri seat and his selfishness in staying in was epic.  From reading between the line comment at the time, the Republicans offered him everything this side of legality to drop out.  He seems to have stayed in because:

1.  He is incredibly vain and obtuse.

2.  He did win the primary according to the rules and was entitled to stay.

As for the second paragraph.  My sense is that Romney and his team would have said whatever they needed in order to win but just didn&#039;t know what that was.  I have my own thoughts but I&#039;m not that confident I know either.  New thinking would be hard for anybody.  If Romney had real principles maybe he could have spent years trying to find creative ways to explain the most attractive version of his preferred policies.  But I&#039;ve been watching Romney for over 18 years and I&#039;ve never noticed that he had any principles at all on the matters at controversy in our politics.

It is still possible to embrace new thinking and prosper without being a conviction politician.  But that probably takes a sharper understanding of the dynamics of public opinion than Romney ever showed.  Bill Clinton had that, but there aren&#039;t a lot of Bill Clinton&#039;s out there.   

As for Stuart Stevens, what is he gonna say?  That he was outplayed and that his cynical boss was outsmarted?  He is a hack trying to maintain his viablity. I don&#039;t respect what he is doing but it is a reminder that while guys like him might have their uses, nothing they say should be trusted.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DJF, Yeah, Akin blew the Missouri seat and his selfishness in staying in was epic.  From reading between the line comment at the time, the Republicans offered him everything this side of legality to drop out.  He seems to have stayed in because:</p>
<p>1.  He is incredibly vain and obtuse.</p>
<p>2.  He did win the primary according to the rules and was entitled to stay.</p>
<p>As for the second paragraph.  My sense is that Romney and his team would have said whatever they needed in order to win but just didn&#8217;t know what that was.  I have my own thoughts but I&#8217;m not that confident I know either.  New thinking would be hard for anybody.  If Romney had real principles maybe he could have spent years trying to find creative ways to explain the most attractive version of his preferred policies.  But I&#8217;ve been watching Romney for over 18 years and I&#8217;ve never noticed that he had any principles at all on the matters at controversy in our politics.</p>
<p>It is still possible to embrace new thinking and prosper without being a conviction politician.  But that probably takes a sharper understanding of the dynamics of public opinion than Romney ever showed.  Bill Clinton had that, but there aren&#8217;t a lot of Bill Clinton&#8217;s out there.   </p>
<p>As for Stuart Stevens, what is he gonna say?  That he was outplayed and that his cynical boss was outsmarted?  He is a hack trying to maintain his viablity. I don&#8217;t respect what he is doing but it is a reminder that while guys like him might have their uses, nothing they say should be trusted.</p>
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		<title>By: Dear Republicans: If You Don&#8217;t Have A Message, The Media Will Assign You One &#124; cathlick.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dear Republicans: If You Don&#8217;t Have A Message, The Media Will Assign You One &#124; cathlick.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 06:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: djf</title>
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		<dc:creator>djf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2012 03:38:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pete,

I completely agree with what you&#039;re saying here.  Still, Akin is responsible for losing the MO Senate seat.  Couldn&#039;t he have been lured into withdrawing from the race by the offer of some face-saving (and well-paid) job at some foundation or other?  For that matter, since it was always clear that Akin would be the weakest GOP candidate for that seat, why wasn&#039;t this done BEFORE the primary?  At that point, he could even have been offered a lobbying job - which is what I would guess he&#039;ll end up doing now, anyway.

I am reluctantly coming to the conclusion that the Republicans - apart from the disadvantages they currently face - are just not very good at politics, and don&#039;t even have much taste for holding power.  See, for example, the pathetic piece in the Wash Post by one of the bigwigs in the Romney campaign, essentially saying how proud he was to have come in second.  The man gives the strong impression that Romney and his people would accept victory if they could just coast into it, but did not want it if it required them to get their uniforms dirty or - God forbid - engage in new thinking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete,</p>
<p>I completely agree with what you&#8217;re saying here.  Still, Akin is responsible for losing the MO Senate seat.  Couldn&#8217;t he have been lured into withdrawing from the race by the offer of some face-saving (and well-paid) job at some foundation or other?  For that matter, since it was always clear that Akin would be the weakest GOP candidate for that seat, why wasn&#8217;t this done BEFORE the primary?  At that point, he could even have been offered a lobbying job &#8211; which is what I would guess he&#8217;ll end up doing now, anyway.</p>
<p>I am reluctantly coming to the conclusion that the Republicans &#8211; apart from the disadvantages they currently face &#8211; are just not very good at politics, and don&#8217;t even have much taste for holding power.  See, for example, the pathetic piece in the Wash Post by one of the bigwigs in the Romney campaign, essentially saying how proud he was to have come in second.  The man gives the strong impression that Romney and his people would accept victory if they could just coast into it, but did not want it if it required them to get their uniforms dirty or &#8211; God forbid &#8211; engage in new thinking.</p>
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