Comments on: Online Education and Guns

By: Mr. Liberal

Mr. Liberal — Fri, 22 Feb 2013 23:08:41 +0000

Unless a mass shooter identifies themselves as such, your concealed weapon will most likely be useless. Especially if they come armed with an AR-15.

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By: Raymond Takashi Swenson

Raymond Takashi Swenson — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 22:41:35 +0000

In Utah, about ten years ago, the progressive president of the University of Utah, Bernie Machen, who was not a native of the state, actually sued the State in Federal court, claiming that he had the right to declare the campus a “gun free zone” despite the explicit terms of the state law allowing concealed carry. It is a large campus which can be entered freely in a car or on foot and there is no physical control of anyone entering with a weapon of any kind. The Federal court asked the Utah Supreme Court whether the university was a legally independent entity not subject to state legislation. The state Supreme Court ruled that, unlike some state universities, the U of U was a fully integrated agency of the state and subject to the concealed carry law. By then a new president who had actually gone to college in Utah was in charge, and acceded to the result. To my knowledge, not a single person has been shot on campus since then.

I should note that when I attended law school there, one of the other students was Ted Bundy, who kept a revolver and other tools of his hobby as a serial killer in his Volkswagen beetle in the student parking lot. None of Machen’s policies would have ever deterrred Bundy. After you defy the laws against murder and assault with a deadly weapon, being suspended from law school is not a serious deterrent.

The problem at base with Obama and the whole gun control mentality is the belief that every gun owner is an incipient mass murderer, and that simply having a firearm is an unbearable temptation for the average human being to use it in a criminal fashion. It is an objectification of people, treating them as if they are irrational and have no habit of self-control. Since that seems to be the profile of the ideal Democratic Party voter, one can understand how they reach that viewpoint, but it would be nice if their constituents could be made to understand that their “keepers” in the government don’t trust them to act responsbly with any real power, and believe that the infantilization of the citizenry (ala Huxley’s Brave New World) is simply bowing to reality.

By: Michael Parrino, MD

Michael Parrino, MD — Mon, 04 Feb 2013 20:54:08 +0000

From 1956 to 1960 I attended Darlington Prep School in Rome, GA. We had a rifle club and routinely carried rifles to school as well as an occasional pistol up to .45 calibre. We had a lot of fun. The only casualty I recall was a dormitory student who thought that he was Fast Draw McGraw and accidently discharged his pistol practicing his fast draw. He shot himself in the foot. By the way, he kept the weapon in his dormitory room, not in an armory.

By: Pseudoplotinus

Pseudoplotinus — Sun, 03 Feb 2013 21:39:49 +0000

“They wanted to find courage more in the actions of those who protect the vulnerable, stand up for the rights of the oppressed, etc. They talked a lot about Dr. King. Strangely, they also talked about…Batman.”

Fabulous. So our next generation is being brought up to revere archetypes of statist progressive advocacy or Nietchean fantasies of the ubermench (albeit in the service of the oppressed, or is batman just using that to serve his own fantasies of cosmic revenge?).

Either way, to paraphrase Mr. Vernon monologue in Breakfast Club: I look at our culture and weep for the future.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Df8Y3AZLSAE

By: Robert Cheeks

Robert Cheeks — Sun, 03 Feb 2013 15:00:45 +0000

Kate, thank you. Your comments were not only logical but reassuring in the sense that we still have teachers who can reason, who aren’t, primarily, state apparatchiks, and care about their students and profession.
You’ll find a light weight 9mm suitable in terms of stopping power, weight, and conceal-ability.
And, as an Ohio taxpayer, that “on-line” edumaction thing has a lot going for it terms of COST (..have mercy on the poor, oppressed taxpayers!)

By: Kate Pitrone

Kate Pitrone — Sun, 03 Feb 2013 10:47:12 +0000

Well, the piece made me laugh. What a choice, to have to worry about physical self-defense in the classroom or to retreat to the semi-education of online classes. Ohio is discussing similar legislation and offering teachers conceal-carry training at public expense. I would also feel silly carrying a gun in my classroom, but if nuts are allowed to roam free and are, apparently, encouraged to get an education, then the threat of guns in the classroom is a sensible line of defense.

By: Ramsey

Ramsey — Sat, 02 Feb 2013 20:14:59 +0000

Last week in my course on Jurisprudence, we discussed Aristotle’s choice to open his treatment of the virtues of character with courage. The students had a hard time relating to his insistence that the primary instance of courage is that of the citizen being willing do die in defense of his city, to choose a noble/beautiful death over a calculating retreat. They wanted to find courage more in the actions of those who protect the vulnerable, stand up for the rights of the oppressed, etc. They talked a lot about Dr. King. Strangely, they also talked about…Batman. Anyway, it seems that the prospect of conceal and carry on university campuses provides us with another opportunity to reflect on what the exercise of courage, the first of the virtues, would look like today.

By: JamesR

JamesR — Sat, 02 Feb 2013 16:48:16 +0000

“Imagine a professor saying…..mo – fo…”

Um…under the CCP laws of my state (FL) doing that would be a chargeable crime. Most probably in Texas, too. Aside and apart from the high probability of instant job termination. The whole point of concealed carry (and as is codifed by statute) is that nobody is to know that you have the firearm. You can even be charged if you carelessly allow the presence of it to be visually detected through too transparent or tight clothing.

Here is a quiz: What do the shootings in: Columbine, Va Tech, Fort Hood, Aurora CO, and Newtown all have in common?…….

Ding ding! Yes we have a winner. Answer: They all occurred in “Gun Free” Zones! (yes, Fort Hood too).

Mass killers may be crazy – but they’re not stupid. If you live in a CC state, the asst principal, the gym coach, the janitor, and the divorced teacher who had a physically abusive ex, at your kid’s junior high may already be CCP holders. But being law abiding, criminal record free, background-checked, finger-prints and photo already on file with the state (and probably the FBI too) citizens (otherwise, they would have never gotten their CCPs) — their mini-9mm semi autos, are….at home.

However, if the asinine “Gun Free, except if you are a violent criminal since you’ll ignore it anyway, Zones” are eliminated……Nobody will know — including the students, fellow faculty, and um, oh yeah – would be killers – whether Principal Bob or Art teacher Sally is armed.

By: Robert Cheeks

Robert Cheeks — Sat, 02 Feb 2013 15:16:12 +0000

John, I love ya, dude. Your stuff is usually top notch, well reasoned, grounded on the ‘good’(or it’s somewhere around), and cogent.
The above isn’t.
Get some rest, drive down to San Anton and visit Cimmeron’s and buy a olde six shooter. You can conceal it, but it’ll give you curvature of the spine. You’d be better off buying a new Beretta Nano 9mm but they’re sold out, so good luck.
I’m pretty sure that not even The One is going to be able to grab our guns, let alone our Bibles. You might as well get used to folks carrying. It actually makes me feel a little more at peace, knowing that if I get in a gun fight with some gangbanger, or nutball, I won’t have to wait for the cops to arrive, for a little hep.