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		<title>By: Republican Civil War&#8230; &#124; P.A.C. Blog</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/postmodernconservative/2013/02/10/karl-rove-vs-the-tea-party-a-solipsistic-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-33531</link>
		<dc:creator>Republican Civil War&#8230; &#124; P.A.C. Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 19:11:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: MONDAY GOD &#38; CAESAR EDITION &#124; Big Pulpit</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/postmodernconservative/2013/02/10/karl-rove-vs-the-tea-party-a-solipsistic-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-33436</link>
		<dc:creator>MONDAY GOD &#38; CAESAR EDITION &#124; Big Pulpit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 14:00:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Karl Rove Vs. The Tea Party &#8211; Pete Spiliakos, PoMoCon / First Things [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Pete Spiliakos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Spiliakos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:59:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[CJ, that&#039;s just the thing, in a lot of cases the moderate or establishment candidate has the money and has it early.  They just waste it and ignore the people who actually show up in primaries.  giving Karl rove more money to spend on primary ads can&#039;t fix that.

I get that money at the early stages of the primary has more leverage, but the early stages aren&#039;t the main problem of the GOP.  The problem is not enough votes in the general election.  As Ramesh Ponnuru points out, both Tea Party and establishment candidates did rather badly in 2012.  Spending money to educate persuadable voters (including one who don&#039;t know they are persuadable) between elections sounds like a more fruitful course for both the &quot;establishment&quot; and &quot;Tea Party&quot; than spending money on Candidate X rather than Candidate Y in the primaries and then carpet bombing the airwaves in support of whatever Republican wins the primary in the month before the election]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CJ, that&#8217;s just the thing, in a lot of cases the moderate or establishment candidate has the money and has it early.  They just waste it and ignore the people who actually show up in primaries.  giving Karl rove more money to spend on primary ads can&#8217;t fix that.</p>
<p>I get that money at the early stages of the primary has more leverage, but the early stages aren&#8217;t the main problem of the GOP.  The problem is not enough votes in the general election.  As Ramesh Ponnuru points out, both Tea Party and establishment candidates did rather badly in 2012.  Spending money to educate persuadable voters (including one who don&#8217;t know they are persuadable) between elections sounds like a more fruitful course for both the &#8220;establishment&#8221; and &#8220;Tea Party&#8221; than spending money on Candidate X rather than Candidate Y in the primaries and then carpet bombing the airwaves in support of whatever Republican wins the primary in the month before the election</p>
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		<title>By: CJ Wolfe</title>
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		<dc:creator>CJ Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:43:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right Pete, it&#039;s important not to forget the adage contained in the acronym for EMILY&#039;S list- Early Money Is Like Yeast. 

Karl Rove and the Tea Party are probably hoping to push the needle toward their policy preferences mostly at the early stages of races, encouraging &quot;their&quot; type of people to run; money from the PAC&#039;s and 501c4&#039;s at the later stages is much less cost-effective at changing the policy preferences of the parties (though still important in some cases- see Santorum vs. Romney campaigns in the primary)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right Pete, it&#8217;s important not to forget the adage contained in the acronym for EMILY&#8217;S list- Early Money Is Like Yeast. </p>
<p>Karl Rove and the Tea Party are probably hoping to push the needle toward their policy preferences mostly at the early stages of races, encouraging &#8220;their&#8221; type of people to run; money from the PAC&#8217;s and 501c4&#8242;s at the later stages is much less cost-effective at changing the policy preferences of the parties (though still important in some cases- see Santorum vs. Romney campaigns in the primary)</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Cheeks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Cheeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 19:15:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pete, I suspect that the stats show that the Tea Party stayed home because Romney was a RINO. Is that true?

Quit dancing with Mr. Rove, the eastern monied interests, and the statist/progressivists that make up the power base of the GOP. The Tea Party has NOTHING in common with these people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete, I suspect that the stats show that the Tea Party stayed home because Romney was a RINO. Is that true?</p>
<p>Quit dancing with Mr. Rove, the eastern monied interests, and the statist/progressivists that make up the power base of the GOP. The Tea Party has NOTHING in common with these people.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Spiliakos</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete Spiliakos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:47:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[djf, true to some extent (also with Angle in Nevada), but that only works if the other candidates only start making the case against the bad candidate in the last week or so.  The problem is having to play catch up, not a lack of money per se (usually - though that might have been a problem in Missouri.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>djf, true to some extent (also with Angle in Nevada), but that only works if the other candidates only start making the case against the bad candidate in the last week or so.  The problem is having to play catch up, not a lack of money per se (usually &#8211; though that might have been a problem in Missouri.)</p>
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		<title>By: djf</title>
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		<dc:creator>djf</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 18:44:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pete, it&#039;s also fair to note that Democrats sometimes fund the Republican primary candidate who&#039;d be the weakest candidate in the general election, as with Akin in Missouri last year.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete, it&#8217;s also fair to note that Democrats sometimes fund the Republican primary candidate who&#8217;d be the weakest candidate in the general election, as with Akin in Missouri last year.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Rove Vs. The Tea Party: A Solipsistic Civil War &#124; CATHOLIC FEAST</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/postmodernconservative/2013/02/10/karl-rove-vs-the-tea-party-a-solipsistic-civil-war/comment-page-1/#comment-33420</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Rove Vs. The Tea Party: A Solipsistic Civil War &#124; CATHOLIC FEAST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Feb 2013 17:19:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Karl Rove is starting a new fundraising organization to support &#8220;electable&#8221; Republican candidates, while Tea Party groups are crying foul. This fight is good for Karl Rove and for groups with Tea Party branding, but bad for the rest of us. The Tea Party groups and Karl Rove can fundraise off Source: Postmodern Conservative&#160;&#160; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Karl Rove is starting a new fundraising organization to support &#8220;electable&#8221; Republican candidates, while Tea Party groups are crying foul. This fight is good for Karl Rove and for groups with Tea Party branding, but bad for the rest of us. The Tea Party groups and Karl Rove can fundraise off Source: Postmodern Conservative&nbsp;&nbsp; [...]</p>
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