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	<title>Comments on: Pomocon POLITICAL Realism</title>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/postmodernconservative/2013/02/12/pomoncon-political-realism/comment-page-1/#comment-33482</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[P.S.  I don&#039;t deny that there are good and smart people who are for same-sex marriage.  But I think it&#039;s a grave mistake, and one that shows a superficial understanding of what makes a human being and a human society &quot;work.&quot;  An embrace of the portal of a very dark age, in my view. To discuss, no doubt.  (Or can one embrace a portal...?)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>P.S.  I don&#8217;t deny that there are good and smart people who are for same-sex marriage.  But I think it&#8217;s a grave mistake, and one that shows a superficial understanding of what makes a human being and a human society &#8220;work.&#8221;  An embrace of the portal of a very dark age, in my view. To discuss, no doubt.  (Or can one embrace a portal&#8230;?)</p>
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		<title>By: Ralph</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/postmodernconservative/2013/02/12/pomoncon-political-realism/comment-page-1/#comment-33481</link>
		<dc:creator>Ralph</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:08:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The underlying problem was well diagnosed by both Tocqueville and Burke:  &quot;literary politics,&quot; i.e., literary performance on political themes with no real assumption of responsibility for making an actual political community better or at least slowing down its deterioration.  Such a performance would only be justified if one were sure that there was nothing worth preserving (that we had already descended into MacIntyre&#039;s utterly dark age)-- a very daunting judgment to make.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The underlying problem was well diagnosed by both Tocqueville and Burke:  &#8220;literary politics,&#8221; i.e., literary performance on political themes with no real assumption of responsibility for making an actual political community better or at least slowing down its deterioration.  Such a performance would only be justified if one were sure that there was nothing worth preserving (that we had already descended into MacIntyre&#8217;s utterly dark age)&#8211; a very daunting judgment to make.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve Billingsley</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/postmodernconservative/2013/02/12/pomoncon-political-realism/comment-page-1/#comment-33479</link>
		<dc:creator>Steve Billingsley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 16:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;For me, it’s not so much that Berry is for same-sex marriage these days. It’s that he thinks–with his characteristic self-righteousness–that anyone who disagrees with him is a bigoted jerk in the thrall of industrial capitalism.&quot;

Bingo - Peter wins the prize.  I am a believer in and defender of (such as I can be) traditional marriage.  But I don&#039;t ascribe bad motivation or poor reasoning to all supporters of same-sex marriage.  Many of them are persons of profound good will have thought deeply about the issue and care greatly for the persons most affected by this debate.  I would prefer to be treated the same way.  

It is not ultimately Berry&#039;s opinion on this (or any other matter) that is so off-putting.  It is the way he expresses that opinion.  Most people don&#039;t like to have a straw man substituted for them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;For me, it’s not so much that Berry is for same-sex marriage these days. It’s that he thinks–with his characteristic self-righteousness–that anyone who disagrees with him is a bigoted jerk in the thrall of industrial capitalism.&#8221;</p>
<p>Bingo &#8211; Peter wins the prize.  I am a believer in and defender of (such as I can be) traditional marriage.  But I don&#8217;t ascribe bad motivation or poor reasoning to all supporters of same-sex marriage.  Many of them are persons of profound good will have thought deeply about the issue and care greatly for the persons most affected by this debate.  I would prefer to be treated the same way.  </p>
<p>It is not ultimately Berry&#8217;s opinion on this (or any other matter) that is so off-putting.  It is the way he expresses that opinion.  Most people don&#8217;t like to have a straw man substituted for them.</p>
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