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		<title>By: Pete Spiliakos</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/postmodernconservative/2013/02/12/shortcuts-will-get-you-nowhere/comment-page-1/#comment-33536</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Spiliakos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Feb 2013 02:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Funny how conservatives think only government or lefty actors produce unintended consequences.&quot;  I don&#039;t think that since I noticed that Phil Gramm voted the same way as Nancy Pelosi.  It does help to counter certain partisan narratives of the financial crisis.

&quot;What was the ‘implicit guarantee’ that Countrywide thought it had?&quot;  Countrywide wasn&#039;t systemically important and its failure wasn&#039;t the cause of the crisis, but since you asked... Countrywide was planning on shifting its risky mortgages to Fannie and Freddie.  There is a reason why Angelo Mozillo spread favors around to politicians and Fannie executives.  It is a stranger-than-fiction development that one of those recipients of Countrywide favors (Chris Dodd) ended up as one of the authors of the most recent financial regulation bill.

&quot;the bubble was already tremendously inflated by 2005&quot;  You can have an asset bubble without risking grid locking the banking system (1987.)

&quot;before Fannie or Freddie even got into the act&quot;

According to the NYT, Fannie&#039;s assets were nearing one trillion dollars by 2003.

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/07/business/fannie-mae-s-loss-risk-is-larger-computer-models-show.html

Now while these don&#039;t reflect especially well on the dominant Democratic narrative of the financial crisis, they also aren&#039;t the main causes of the crisis.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Funny how conservatives think only government or lefty actors produce unintended consequences.&#8221;  I don&#8217;t think that since I noticed that Phil Gramm voted the same way as Nancy Pelosi.  It does help to counter certain partisan narratives of the financial crisis.</p>
<p>&#8220;What was the ‘implicit guarantee’ that Countrywide thought it had?&#8221;  Countrywide wasn&#8217;t systemically important and its failure wasn&#8217;t the cause of the crisis, but since you asked&#8230; Countrywide was planning on shifting its risky mortgages to Fannie and Freddie.  There is a reason why Angelo Mozillo spread favors around to politicians and Fannie executives.  It is a stranger-than-fiction development that one of those recipients of Countrywide favors (Chris Dodd) ended up as one of the authors of the most recent financial regulation bill.</p>
<p>&#8220;the bubble was already tremendously inflated by 2005&#8243;  You can have an asset bubble without risking grid locking the banking system (1987.)</p>
<p>&#8220;before Fannie or Freddie even got into the act&#8221;</p>
<p>According to the NYT, Fannie&#8217;s assets were nearing one trillion dollars by 2003.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/07/business/fannie-mae-s-loss-risk-is-larger-computer-models-show.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.nytimes.com/2003/08/07/business/fannie-mae-s-loss-risk-is-larger-computer-models-show.html</a></p>
<p>Now while these don&#8217;t reflect especially well on the dominant Democratic narrative of the financial crisis, they also aren&#8217;t the main causes of the crisis.</p>
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		<title>By: HT</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/postmodernconservative/2013/02/12/shortcuts-will-get-you-nowhere/comment-page-1/#comment-33529</link>
		<dc:creator>HT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 14:09:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No Pete, I&#039;m afraid of the unintended consequences of ordinary human greed channeled by the leaky dikes of &#039;free enterprise&#039; (though I agree that the Dems are nearly as F-ed up as the Repubs on these issues).  Funny how conservatives think only government or lefty actors produce unintended consequences.  In fact, everything everyone does has unintended consequences -- see the films of Kieslowski, for example, on this.

What was the &#039;implicit guarantee&#039; that Countrywide thought it had?  Funny, it didn&#039;t seem to have one.  Any implicit guarantees for the kids working in &#039;boiler rooms&#039; making phone calls to small lenders because Goldman was hot to issue more CDOs?  There was a nice interview with one such kid on Planet Money (I think) in 2007, shortly before the stuff really hit the fan.  Google &quot;big pile of money&quot;.  He made $750K in one year, right out of college, as a middle-man in the MBS *market*.  We need more such young entrepreneurs, clearly, and Rubio is just the man to nurture them.

FACT: the bubble was already tremendously inflated by 2005 (see the 100-year Case-Shiller chart; you&#039;re a historian, right?) before Fannie or Freddie even got into the act; prices were already higher in inflation-adjusted terms then than they had been in 100 years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No Pete, I&#8217;m afraid of the unintended consequences of ordinary human greed channeled by the leaky dikes of &#8216;free enterprise&#8217; (though I agree that the Dems are nearly as F-ed up as the Repubs on these issues).  Funny how conservatives think only government or lefty actors produce unintended consequences.  In fact, everything everyone does has unintended consequences &#8212; see the films of Kieslowski, for example, on this.</p>
<p>What was the &#8216;implicit guarantee&#8217; that Countrywide thought it had?  Funny, it didn&#8217;t seem to have one.  Any implicit guarantees for the kids working in &#8216;boiler rooms&#8217; making phone calls to small lenders because Goldman was hot to issue more CDOs?  There was a nice interview with one such kid on Planet Money (I think) in 2007, shortly before the stuff really hit the fan.  Google &#8220;big pile of money&#8221;.  He made $750K in one year, right out of college, as a middle-man in the MBS *market*.  We need more such young entrepreneurs, clearly, and Rubio is just the man to nurture them.</p>
<p>FACT: the bubble was already tremendously inflated by 2005 (see the 100-year Case-Shiller chart; you&#8217;re a historian, right?) before Fannie or Freddie even got into the act; prices were already higher in inflation-adjusted terms then than they had been in 100 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Spiliakos</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/postmodernconservative/2013/02/12/shortcuts-will-get-you-nowhere/comment-page-1/#comment-33522</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Spiliakos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2013 00:51:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HT, I&#039;m not at all sure that Krugman&#039;s read of Rubio&#039;s speech is the correct one.  You can make a plausible case that the financial crisis was caused by lousy regulatory rules plus the implicit subsidy of too big to fail encouraging large banks to gamble on too-risky investments with too-few reserves.  It isn&#039;t like conservatives haven&#039;t offered policies to deal with these problems.  Rubio didn&#039;t offer specifics on those, but it wasn&#039;t much of a forum for that kind of thing.  This is something that 2016 presidential candidates should address.  

http://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/too-big-not-to-fail

http://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/curbing-risk-on-wall-street

&quot;at least some of us out there are worried that another 8-12 years of center-right rule will bring about something similar.&quot;

Are you afraid of the unintended consequences of financial regulations that were signed by a Democratic president and supported by the current Democratic leaders in Congress?  Me too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm-Leach-Bliley_Act#Controversy

http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/106-1999/s354

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1999/roll570.xml

Though in all seriousness Republicans need to offer something real and well thought out on this issue.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HT, I&#8217;m not at all sure that Krugman&#8217;s read of Rubio&#8217;s speech is the correct one.  You can make a plausible case that the financial crisis was caused by lousy regulatory rules plus the implicit subsidy of too big to fail encouraging large banks to gamble on too-risky investments with too-few reserves.  It isn&#8217;t like conservatives haven&#8217;t offered policies to deal with these problems.  Rubio didn&#8217;t offer specifics on those, but it wasn&#8217;t much of a forum for that kind of thing.  This is something that 2016 presidential candidates should address.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/too-big-not-to-fail" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/too-big-not-to-fail</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/curbing-risk-on-wall-street" rel="nofollow">http://www.nationalaffairs.com/publications/detail/curbing-risk-on-wall-street</a></p>
<p>&#8220;at least some of us out there are worried that another 8-12 years of center-right rule will bring about something similar.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you afraid of the unintended consequences of financial regulations that were signed by a Democratic president and supported by the current Democratic leaders in Congress?  Me too.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm-Leach-Bliley_Act#Controversy" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm-Leach-Bliley_Act#Controversy</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/106-1999/s354" rel="nofollow">http://www.govtrack.us/congress/votes/106-1999/s354</a></p>
<p><a href="http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1999/roll570.xml" rel="nofollow">http://clerk.house.gov/evs/1999/roll570.xml</a></p>
<p>Though in all seriousness Republicans need to offer something real and well thought out on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 15:36:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have little to offer here, since the last two election campaigns have demonstrated quite clearly I don&#039;t &quot;get&quot; the country all that well anymore.  A world in which Jon Stewart is taken seriously as a political figure rather than an object of occasional fun isn&#039;t one I comprehend.  Ditto for Joe Biden.

To me, the GOP needs to become the anti-DC party, but I&#039;m not sure how to do that rhetorically effectively at this point.  The current MSM is so overtly in the tank for the Dems that the GOP is pretty hamstrung.  Clearly they need to go around them--do local media heavily would be my suggestion.  Also open events on college campuses.  Both of these require individuals who are smart and quick on their feet, two characteristics that our political system isn&#039;t built to reward at this point.

One quick policy suggestion that I don&#039;t see referred to much is to move to make student loan debt dischargable in bankruptcy.  It might have electoral benefits, but it&#039;s just the right thing to do.  A clever twist to this is the Glenn Reynolds suggestion to make universities cosigners on all college loans--this would put them on the hook for the &quot;worthiness&quot; of their tuition in a direct way.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have little to offer here, since the last two election campaigns have demonstrated quite clearly I don&#8217;t &#8220;get&#8221; the country all that well anymore.  A world in which Jon Stewart is taken seriously as a political figure rather than an object of occasional fun isn&#8217;t one I comprehend.  Ditto for Joe Biden.</p>
<p>To me, the GOP needs to become the anti-DC party, but I&#8217;m not sure how to do that rhetorically effectively at this point.  The current MSM is so overtly in the tank for the Dems that the GOP is pretty hamstrung.  Clearly they need to go around them&#8211;do local media heavily would be my suggestion.  Also open events on college campuses.  Both of these require individuals who are smart and quick on their feet, two characteristics that our political system isn&#8217;t built to reward at this point.</p>
<p>One quick policy suggestion that I don&#8217;t see referred to much is to move to make student loan debt dischargable in bankruptcy.  It might have electoral benefits, but it&#8217;s just the right thing to do.  A clever twist to this is the Glenn Reynolds suggestion to make universities cosigners on all college loans&#8211;this would put them on the hook for the &#8220;worthiness&#8221; of their tuition in a direct way.</p>
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		<title>By: HT</title>
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		<dc:creator>HT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 14:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Pete, you continue to talk your usual excellent sense here, and I hope somebody in the Party is listening.  But reading Krugman&#039;s blog today (and Konczal&#039;s note that he refers to) reminds me to ask, speaking of Rubio and what the Party needs to do to win over more voters: When is the &#039;center-right&#039; going to learn something (anything) from the recent financial crisis, if ever?  The AEI narrative on this disaster cannot be supported, and at least some of us out there are worried that another 8-12 years of center-right rule will bring about something similar.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete, you continue to talk your usual excellent sense here, and I hope somebody in the Party is listening.  But reading Krugman&#8217;s blog today (and Konczal&#8217;s note that he refers to) reminds me to ask, speaking of Rubio and what the Party needs to do to win over more voters: When is the &#8216;center-right&#8217; going to learn something (anything) from the recent financial crisis, if ever?  The AEI narrative on this disaster cannot be supported, and at least some of us out there are worried that another 8-12 years of center-right rule will bring about something similar.</p>
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		<title>By: Shortcuts Will Get You Nowhere &#124; CATHOLIC FEAST</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shortcuts Will Get You Nowhere &#124; CATHOLIC FEAST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 07:55:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] Jamelle Bouie has a (gleefully) pessimistic take on the ability of Republicans to win over Latino voters. He also rightly points out that Republicans are doing even worse among Asian-American voters. I am a little more optimistic about Republican chances to make gains among nonwhites. Or at least I was Source: Postmodern Conservative&#160;&#160; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Jamelle Bouie has a (gleefully) pessimistic take on the ability of Republicans to win over Latino voters. He also rightly points out that Republicans are doing even worse among Asian-American voters. I am a little more optimistic about Republican chances to make gains among nonwhites. Or at least I was Source: Postmodern Conservative&nbsp;&nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Pete Spiliakos</title>
		<link>http://www.firstthings.com/blogs/postmodernconservative/2013/02/12/shortcuts-will-get-you-nowhere/comment-page-1/#comment-33493</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete Spiliakos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 02:02:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Even if Rubio is everything his enthusiasts say he is, they are still investing way too much hope in him.  And the worst part is that I think that some of the Rubio enthusiasm is an avoidance mechanism so that people don&#039;t have to deal with the center-right&#039;s agenda, messaging, and demographic problems.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if Rubio is everything his enthusiasts say he is, they are still investing way too much hope in him.  And the worst part is that I think that some of the Rubio enthusiasm is an avoidance mechanism so that people don&#8217;t have to deal with the center-right&#8217;s agenda, messaging, and demographic problems.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Lawler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Lawler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 01:46:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[More tough love.  I too am dissenting on Rubio-mania, although he speaks well and people really like him.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More tough love.  I too am dissenting on Rubio-mania, although he speaks well and people really like him.</p>
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