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		<title>By: A Big Country Part I: The Dead End Of Republican Factionalism &#187; Postmodern Conservative &#124; A First Things Blog</title>
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		<dc:creator>A Big Country Part I: The Dead End Of Republican Factionalism &#187; Postmodern Conservative &#124; A First Things Blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Feb 2013 02:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] wrote a terrific piece about what he called our Liberal-Ivy ruling class and I found this passage from Angelo Codevilla to [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] wrote a terrific piece about what he called our Liberal-Ivy ruling class and I found this passage from Angelo Codevilla to [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Clifford Bates</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clifford Bates</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 20:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The problem here is that Angelo Codevilla logic leads to the delegitimization of the current order one that yell for a call for revolution (ala the DoI).  But is mere appeal to political solutions really the answer?  Or is Allan Tate ultimately correct--that in killing there is more than commentary.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem here is that Angelo Codevilla logic leads to the delegitimization of the current order one that yell for a call for revolution (ala the DoI).  But is mere appeal to political solutions really the answer?  Or is Allan Tate ultimately correct&#8211;that in killing there is more than commentary.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 16:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Megan McArdle&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/02/21/america-s-new-mandarins.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;post today&lt;/a&gt; is also excellent and highly related to this topic.

Like her, by education, resume, etc., I should be totally down with the current system, and I&#039;m doing quite well economically speaking.  But there are all sorts of problems with what WE as a society are doing, sustainably, economically, MORALLY.  And the ESTABLISHMENT only has ANSWERS that mean &quot;more of the same&quot;, i.e., empowering the establishment.  How convenient.

The TEA PARTY isn&#039;t really a THING, but IT (it&#039;s also not an IT, of course, which is both a PROBLEM and OPPORTUNITY) is at least a reflection of the recognition that things are badly off the rails.  Unfortunately, that meme is fully associated with anti-Sexual-Revolution &quot;damn the hippies, back to Father Knows Best!&quot; social conservatism and is hence easily discredited/dismissed by the establishment, but that&#039;s not at all the main front of the battle right now.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Megan McArdle&#8217;s <a href="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/02/21/america-s-new-mandarins.html" rel="nofollow">post today</a> is also excellent and highly related to this topic.</p>
<p>Like her, by education, resume, etc., I should be totally down with the current system, and I&#8217;m doing quite well economically speaking.  But there are all sorts of problems with what WE as a society are doing, sustainably, economically, MORALLY.  And the ESTABLISHMENT only has ANSWERS that mean &#8220;more of the same&#8221;, i.e., empowering the establishment.  How convenient.</p>
<p>The TEA PARTY isn&#8217;t really a THING, but IT (it&#8217;s also not an IT, of course, which is both a PROBLEM and OPPORTUNITY) is at least a reflection of the recognition that things are badly off the rails.  Unfortunately, that meme is fully associated with anti-Sexual-Revolution &#8220;damn the hippies, back to Father Knows Best!&#8221; social conservatism and is hence easily discredited/dismissed by the establishment, but that&#8217;s not at all the main front of the battle right now.</p>
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		<title>By: Against Our Liberal-Ivy Ruling Class &#124; CATHOLIC FEAST</title>
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		<dc:creator>Against Our Liberal-Ivy Ruling Class &#124; CATHOLIC FEAST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 15:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] There’s an important Angelo Codevilla essay in Forbes: As Country Club Republicans Link Up With The Democratic Ruling Class, Millions Of Voters Are Orphaned.  Not sure if I agree of his analysis of the Republican Party, which is obviously the main point of the essay, but I do agree with Source: Postmodern Conservative&#160;&#160; [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] There’s an important Angelo Codevilla essay in Forbes: As Country Club Republicans Link Up With The Democratic Ruling Class, Millions Of Voters Are Orphaned.  Not sure if I agree of his analysis of the Republican Party, which is obviously the main point of the essay, but I do agree with Source: Postmodern Conservative&nbsp;&nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:49:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This article is absolutely brilliant.  This part is especially spot-on:
&quot;That is why for example a majority of the Republican Establishment, including The Wall Street Journal and the post-W.F. Buckley National Review supported the 2008 Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) and its premise that big, well-connected enterprises are “too big to fail” -  which three fourths of the American people opposed vociferously. For these Republican cognoscenti vox populi is not vox dei, but the voice of idiots. Accordingly, after the 2010 elections produced a large contingent of Senators and Congressmen pledged to oppose measures such as the TARP, former Senate Republican majority leader Trent Lott expressed confidence that Washington would soon break the new members to its ways, that pledges to voters would count for little against the approval or disapproval of prestigious personages, against the profit to be made by going along with the ruling class and the trouble that comes from opposing it.&quot; 

Plenty of us didn&#039;t vote for Mitt because of this sort of stuff.  And this is why folks end up voting for the Angles and O&#039;Donnells of the world.

&quot;Moderate&quot; Dems are perfectly happy to play along with utterly destroying the GOP.  It&#039;s far better to be the minority wing of a majority party than the minority wing of one of two equal parties, after all.  The Dems think they are on the verge of accomplishing their goal of turning the nation into California, Illinois, New York.  Never mind that these places are economic disasters with fleeing populations--the Dems have complete chokeholds on power there.

The GOP (or some alternative--I don&#039;t much care) needs some &quot;nice&quot; sounding plans to dismantle DC power.  Given the jackals and vipers in the MSM these days, it will be tricky to do that.  But it will be done soon enough regardless, because current the current government is--what&#039;s the word lefties love so much?--unsustainable.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This article is absolutely brilliant.  This part is especially spot-on:<br />
&#8220;That is why for example a majority of the Republican Establishment, including The Wall Street Journal and the post-W.F. Buckley National Review supported the 2008 Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) and its premise that big, well-connected enterprises are “too big to fail” &#8211;  which three fourths of the American people opposed vociferously. For these Republican cognoscenti vox populi is not vox dei, but the voice of idiots. Accordingly, after the 2010 elections produced a large contingent of Senators and Congressmen pledged to oppose measures such as the TARP, former Senate Republican majority leader Trent Lott expressed confidence that Washington would soon break the new members to its ways, that pledges to voters would count for little against the approval or disapproval of prestigious personages, against the profit to be made by going along with the ruling class and the trouble that comes from opposing it.&#8221; </p>
<p>Plenty of us didn&#8217;t vote for Mitt because of this sort of stuff.  And this is why folks end up voting for the Angles and O&#8217;Donnells of the world.</p>
<p>&#8220;Moderate&#8221; Dems are perfectly happy to play along with utterly destroying the GOP.  It&#8217;s far better to be the minority wing of a majority party than the minority wing of one of two equal parties, after all.  The Dems think they are on the verge of accomplishing their goal of turning the nation into California, Illinois, New York.  Never mind that these places are economic disasters with fleeing populations&#8211;the Dems have complete chokeholds on power there.</p>
<p>The GOP (or some alternative&#8211;I don&#8217;t much care) needs some &#8220;nice&#8221; sounding plans to dismantle DC power.  Given the jackals and vipers in the MSM these days, it will be tricky to do that.  But it will be done soon enough regardless, because current the current government is&#8211;what&#8217;s the word lefties love so much?&#8211;unsustainable.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Buckalew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Buckalew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Amusingly no one quite represents this undeserved superiority and smugness than fellow Forbes contributor Josh Barro. Honestly this article could be retitled why Josh Barro should shut up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amusingly no one quite represents this undeserved superiority and smugness than fellow Forbes contributor Josh Barro. Honestly this article could be retitled why Josh Barro should shut up.</p>
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		<title>By: paul seaton</title>
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		<dc:creator>paul seaton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:42:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[William Voegeli makes a similar case in a recent Claremont Review of Books.   Are we approaching the end of the Old Regime?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>William Voegeli makes a similar case in a recent Claremont Review of Books.   Are we approaching the end of the Old Regime?</p>
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		<title>By: Peter Lawler</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Lawler</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:23:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Maybe a bit uneven, but powerful stuff.  Angelo is tough!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe a bit uneven, but powerful stuff.  Angelo is tough!</p>
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		<title>By: HT</title>
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		<dc:creator>HT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 14:11:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Obama&#039;s quoted statement is &quot;sickening&quot;?  I think Pete here has given plenty of good evidence that the GOP needs to deliver a slightly different message about poor seniors and hungry children. I agree that Obama and Holder (ugh) often seem infected with a moral bankruptcy, but so indeed did Bush/Cheney/Rumbaugh, on a truly global scale, and so do Novak and Weigel, say, in these precincts.  There&#039;s plenty of moral bankruptcy (accompanied by righteous certitude) to go around in our beloved country these days.

I never made it into the Ivy elite by the way (not that I wanted to, in that sense); I didn&#039;t have the family money or social class to do so.  I turned down Princeton&#039;s and MIT&#039;s &#039;offers&#039; because of money concerns (gotta love that equality of opportunity thang we got goin&#039; here), and attended a small liberal-arts college that is now defunct.

On a brighter note, Carl, check out the new album by Ben Harper and Charlie Musselwhite.  Real American music.  Makes me want to pull my old harmonica out of the drawer.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama&#8217;s quoted statement is &#8220;sickening&#8221;?  I think Pete here has given plenty of good evidence that the GOP needs to deliver a slightly different message about poor seniors and hungry children. I agree that Obama and Holder (ugh) often seem infected with a moral bankruptcy, but so indeed did Bush/Cheney/Rumbaugh, on a truly global scale, and so do Novak and Weigel, say, in these precincts.  There&#8217;s plenty of moral bankruptcy (accompanied by righteous certitude) to go around in our beloved country these days.</p>
<p>I never made it into the Ivy elite by the way (not that I wanted to, in that sense); I didn&#8217;t have the family money or social class to do so.  I turned down Princeton&#8217;s and MIT&#8217;s &#8216;offers&#8217; because of money concerns (gotta love that equality of opportunity thang we got goin&#8217; here), and attended a small liberal-arts college that is now defunct.</p>
<p>On a brighter note, Carl, check out the new album by Ben Harper and Charlie Musselwhite.  Real American music.  Makes me want to pull my old harmonica out of the drawer.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Cheeks</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Cheeks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Feb 2013 13:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Typical, but let us remind ourselves, sickening.  Morally bankrupt.  Infected with a spirit productive of civil war.&quot;

Carl, I do agree yet, somehow, the notion that this statement is emanating from a leading PoMoCon is an indication that we are further down the road than I thought.

&#039;And most shocking, perhaps, we get this on a near daily basis without any substantial push-back from moderates.  The many decently moderate Democrats you meet…nice people, but truth is, especially about the older and more educated ones, they are grossly abdicating their duty to their party’s and their nation’s future health.&#039;

&#039;I cannot repeat that point enough.&#039;

And, while we may disagree on the question of a &#039;moderate&#039; Democrat that fact is that these people are ALL suffering, in one degree or another, to a perverse and debilitating spiritual disease.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Typical, but let us remind ourselves, sickening.  Morally bankrupt.  Infected with a spirit productive of civil war.&#8221;</p>
<p>Carl, I do agree yet, somehow, the notion that this statement is emanating from a leading PoMoCon is an indication that we are further down the road than I thought.</p>
<p>&#8216;And most shocking, perhaps, we get this on a near daily basis without any substantial push-back from moderates.  The many decently moderate Democrats you meet…nice people, but truth is, especially about the older and more educated ones, they are grossly abdicating their duty to their party’s and their nation’s future health.&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8216;I cannot repeat that point enough.&#8217;</p>
<p>And, while we may disagree on the question of a &#8216;moderate&#8217; Democrat that fact is that these people are ALL suffering, in one degree or another, to a perverse and debilitating spiritual disease.</p>
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