Secret service man claims the Obama administration is lying about who made the decision to suspend White House tours.
From time to time it’s good to remind ourselves of the laws of nature. Aristotle got most of it right, but we have to add a couple:
Earth goes down. So does water.
Fire goes up. So does air.
Obama lies. 60% of public ignores.
To ignore is to accept.
America goes down.
March 14th, 2013 | 8:56 am
Whispered: Or, its elements separate.
March 14th, 2013 | 9:09 am
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March 14th, 2013 | 9:10 am
I think Jay Carney acknowledged as much afterwards in a press briefing.
March 14th, 2013 | 10:37 am
Stop the hate! Obama gives us stuff!
March 14th, 2013 | 11:05 am
By the end of the 90s it was universally acknowledged across the political spectrum that both Clintons were habitual and brazen liars. Almost like they just couldn’t help themselves. Lying was just what they did, and who they were. Now they’re somehow considered the two most admired living figures in American politics. One wonders whether the MSM will ever turn on Obama. Seems extremely doubtful.
Similarly, has anyone ever doubted that today’s Hillary is tomorrow’s Michelle? I.e., she will waltz into the Senate and actually be considered a plausible president? Yikes. Talk about a pathetic and decadent society.
March 14th, 2013 | 12:25 pm
Golly, Presidents lie, and the political ‘scientists’ are shocked and appalled. Where was your outrage when the Bush administration lied about its real reasons for going to war in Iraq, and then steadily denied the real state of affairs there for years, in a ‘heck of a job, Brownie’ way?
I don’t like lying either, but what else do you expect from an American politician? Come on guys, relax.
March 14th, 2013 | 1:42 pm
Um, the source — an ex Secret Service agent — has no actual knowledge of the decisionmaking process here, but still accuses the President of lying based on his experiences with the Secret Service YEARS AGO and then First Things prints it as a fact? Doesn’t seem very charitable to me.
March 14th, 2013 | 3:17 pm
Marh HY is right about the state of factual certainty here. I honored it in word, if not in spirit, writing that the guy claims that the WH is lying. He offers good reasons for why it must be a lie based on what he knows about typical Secret Service procedure, but still, it’s possible that we will later learn that it really was the Secret Service that called for the suspension, w/o overt Obama admin pressure.
So Marh HY, good catch, I guess. And I’ll give you more ammo: I confess to having half-written the post, and then noticing that the guy was former and not current SS, and thus realizing it was not the ideal story upon which to build my little conceit of a post. But I published anyhow. You make me wonder if I really should have, even though I made no claims to be offering reporting, or even a standard opinion-piece.
That confession made, I would be genuinely surprised if this fellow turned out to be wrong. The reason I could pretend to regard this WH’s lying as an elemental tendency, is that the pattern has been confirmed so many times.
And lo and behold, what now seems clear, given Jay Carney’s statement that paul refers to (The Weekly Standard has the link), is that at the very least the president substantially bended the truth.
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HT, yes, previous presidents told lies, just as previous presidents ran big deficits. May I suggest that on both counts that the multiplication table matters morally?
March 14th, 2013 | 4:39 pm
HT. So speaking of relax, take a breath and please answer the following question.
Exactly what basis is there for your accusation that Bush lied as opposed to simply based his action on bad intelligence?
Lying assumes knowledge that your putting forward an untruth.
March 15th, 2013 | 9:03 am
When it comes to politics, it seems most people only have a problem with lies when used by the opposing side. In the contemporary world, truth is a mere tool, that is all.
March 15th, 2013 | 10:54 am
Lyric, not so. My concern right now is for the Democratic Party. It has been, and will remain, a key institution for our nation. The aughts proved that one can never count it out. My politics are now such that I think it would have been better for America had it lost elections from the days of Wilson onward, but I certainly regard many of its leaders then as honorable-enough statesmen: FDR, JFK, LBJ especially.
The leader of that party is Barack Obama. And he has gone far beyond its previous leaders in resorting to deception. I am worried that the Democratic Party is getting corrupted to a point beyond repentance or correction.
I do not see how America can continue if that is so. The possibility of budgetary collapse due to Democrat lying/denial is one item, but more broadly, I am surprised to find that I am now increasingly inclined to see Civil War, or at least Bitter if-peaceable Break-up, somewhere in the next 40-100 years if certain trends increasingly characterizing our Democratic Party leaders do not begin to reverse, at least somewhat. Dishonesty about one’s personal life, a la Clinton, is one thing. The systematic demonization of 40% of one’s nation, now adopted as standard operating Democrat procedure, is another. Add to this the entrenched refusal to allow conservatives into the legacy-media(MSM) and academia even after study after study has shown the disparities and bias. We have Red v. Blue media now, and are only two or three decades away from a Red v. Blue college-education divide.
Obama is teaching his fellow Democrat Leaders horrible lessons. The more he appears to have “won” (a la Charlie Sheen) by his unashamed mendacity, division, and propogandistic employment of certain social-media techniques, the worse lessons they will take.
Save the Democratic Party, someone!
March 15th, 2013 | 11:25 am
Nice one Carl. “Winning!” is winning when there is no argument other than unashamed mendacity.
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