President Obama Is Not Even A Muslim

[Wellington]

Based on the results of my straw poll in this forum, America's political leadership of every stripe will now be forced to admit that except for Obama, there is no leader better than a turnip pulled out of Pastaneta's ass. Funny - that's what I've thought for some time.

[Pastaneta]

I see that some cannot even post without ad hominem... Typical!

[Pastaneta]

Now, now, turnips are one thing, but I wouldn't go that far

With Biden you first and foremost get an American, not an alien in the sense of Peggy Noonan.

[Simple Minded]

Based on the results of my straw poll in this forum, America's political leadership of every stripe will now be forced to admit that except for Obama, there is no leader better than a turnip pulled out of Pastaneta's ass. Funny - that's what I've thought for some time.

As usual Welly, your reading comprehension (oops, sorry, that word means that you understand what you read) and attention span both leave a lot to be desired.

CD's point was not that Obama is better than a turnip or any other leader, CD's point was that Obama and a turnip were equivalent (ooops, so sorry again, that word means they are roughly equal).

Lambasting POTUS is a great American past time, we're just glad you Canucks can join in on the fun.

Regarding Biden, I can't agree with CD. I'm all in for for a "pull my finger" and slap the other heads on state on their ass kind of POTUS. Rest of the world thinks we're a bunch of redneck cowboys, why shouldn't we act the part?

How would you feel about OUR president slapping YOUR queen on the ass? Would they consider that an act of war in the great white north? Or maybe that is a typical teenage fantasy in Canada.....

Maybe in the name of detente, we could work out kind of a Uighur transfer program. Have ya got enough room up there for about 536 landed immigrants?

[Pastaneta]

http://www.hour.ca/news/news.aspx?iIDArticle=18577

"Camillien Houde was noted for his witty remarks. Once, when the King and Queen of England were here, he said to them at a dinner, 'I thank you from the bottom of my heart, and my wife thanks you from her bottom too.'"

The excellent 1976 NFB doc His Worship, Mr. Montreal recounts the time Houde was riding in a convertible downtown with then-Princess Elizabeth. As the throngs cheered, Houde turned to her and said, "Some of that [applause] is for you!

It seems the mayor of Montreal did almost what you suggest with the royals...

[CognitiveDistoibance]

As usual Welly, your reading comprehension (oops, sorry, that word means that you understand what you read) and attention span both leave a lot to be desired.

CD's point was not that Obama is better than a turnip or any other leader, CD's point was that Obama and a turnip were equivalent (ooops, so sorry again, that word means they are roughly equal).

Sorry, but not quite right on my position. A turnip would've sat there in a vegetative state (literally) and wouldn't have done squat (or squash, if you will) and thus wouldn't have created marginal uncertainties for businesses and individuals via HCR and other stupidities. When times are tough, uncertainty isn't how you let the good times roll. Businesses are cutting back and hoarding cash. So, the turnip would have been a better POTUS than BHO, IMHO. And for what it's worth, if BHO had done a better imitation of a turnip, I think he would have still disappointed his rabid lefties, but he would have held the center, gained some credit from those on the right, and would have gone down as a decent president. Essentially, that's what Clinton ended up doing...

Lambasting POTUS is a great American past time, we're just glad you Canucks can join in on the fun.

Regarding Biden, I can't agree with CD. I'm all in for for a "pull my finger" and slap the other heads on state on their ass kind of POTUS. Rest of the world thinks we're a bunch of redneck cowboys, why shouldn't we act the part?

I'll guess we agree to disagree then. Let's just say with that clown one heartbeat away from the presidency, I wish Obama all the health in the world.

[CognitiveDistoibance]

I see that some cannot even post without ad hominem... Typical!

Yes.

[Simple Minded]

As usual Welly, your reading comprehension (oops, sorry, that word means that you understand what you read) and attention span both leave a lot to be desired.

CD's point was not that Obama is better than a turnip or any other leader, CD's point was that Obama and a turnip were equivalent (ooops, so sorry again, that word means they are roughly equal).

Sorry, but not quite right on my position. A turnip would've sat there in a vegetative state (literally) and wouldn't have done squat (or squash, if you will) and thus wouldn't have created marginal uncertainties for businesses and individuals via HCR and other stupidities. When times are tough, uncertainty isn't how you let the good times roll. Businesses are cutting back and hoarding cash. So, the turnip would have been a better POTUS than BHO, IMHO. And for what it's worth, if BHO had done a better imitation of a turnip, I think he would have still disappointed his rabid lefties, but he would have held the center, gained some credit from those on the right, and would have gone down as a decent president. Essentially, that's what Clinton ended up doing...

Lambasting POTUS is a great American past time, we're just glad you Canucks can join in on the fun.

Regarding Biden, I can't agree with CD. I'm all in for for a "pull my finger" and slap the other heads on state on their ass kind of POTUS. Rest of the world thinks we're a bunch of redneck cowboys, why shouldn't we act the part?

I'll guess we agree to disagree then. Let's just say with that clown one heartbeat away from the presidency, I wish Obama all the health in the world.

I stand corrected, please forgive me..... My Master

[Simple Minded]

I see that some cannot even post without ad hominem... Typical!

Yes.

I like ad hominem grits as part of my breakfast in the morning........

[Pastaneta]

Well, more and more people are saying it... even if the PC here and at Asia Times do not like it...

http://pajamasmedia.com/victordavishans ... tulance/2/

There is no need to pursue the journalistic malfeasance that allowed the president of the United States to be inaugurated without any real past scrutiny. Suffice to say that any future presidential candidate who promises to cool the planet and lower the rising seas will be laughed out of contention — even if he puts “yes, we can” into Latin on his pre-presidential seal.

Race was a factor. Here the left is correct in assessing its importance in evaluating Obama, although not quite in the way they think. At various times, a disturbing racialist trope emerged that suggested white liberals were enthralled almost solely by Obama’s mixed heritage, his diction, and comportment. Not to mention the overall sense that he was a moderate and charismatic African-American that knew precisely how to put anxious well-meaning folks like themselves at ease — and that this was simply not true of the majority of other African-American politicians, and that this in and of itself would suffice.

Promoting Obama offered blanket exemption from even the suggestion of prejudice — a sort of cheap flip of a “get out of jail free” card than ensured liberal elites could otherwise pursue their sheltered lives without guilt or worry over demands for daily interaction with most African-Americans. Elect Obama, worry not what he did — and at last live guilt-free lives in seclusion.

That is a serious charge that should not be made lightly, but the emphasis on Obama’s diction, pigment, and appearance — rather than his actual record — is not my own.

Joe Biden, for example, blurted out, “I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy I mean, that’s a storybook, man.” Apparently Biden meant that the antithesis of Obama’s profile — a non-mainstream African-American, who spoke a southern patois and who did not appear bright and clean and handsome — most definitely was not to be a storybook candidate and perhaps likely to put off white liberals like Biden. (Note that Biden did not mention any particular achievement of Obama, merely the impression that he made on those like himself.)

Democratic Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid was perhaps cruder even than Biden. It was reported that he had characterized Obama as a “light-skinned” African American “with no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.” Again, Reid’s implied antithesis — a dark-skinned African American who spoke with a Negro dialect all the time — would probably offend progressives like Reid. (Note here that Harry Reid seems to have been the first serious observer to publicly describe one of Obama most off-putting characteristics — the near cynical fashion in which he turns on not slightly, but entirely, different cadences and intonations to cater to particular crowds.)

In short, Obama seems aware that a particular cadre of influential white liberals has traditionally accorded him deference not warranted by actual achievement, but rather by his projection of a progressive persona, as crudely outlined by a Biden or Reid — and that this by now is a normal course of events rather than an aberrant experience. Hence his anger that all that has at last begun to end.

It is hard to think that an Elena Kagan, dean of Harvard Law School, would have gushed over the rather undistinguished legal record of Barack Obama, had he been either a well published but obese white Harvard Law graduate, or a conservative African-American antipode to the Biden-Reid stereotype, perhaps in the Clarence Thomas mold. After all, it was not just Obama’s appearance or skin color or cadences that so impressed Biden and Reid and won over liberal Americans, but his politics as well that earned him an exemption not accorded even to an equally professional appearing Colin Powell or Condoleezza Rice.

The only reason he was elected was the color of his skin.

[charleston]

Obama, a member of the Trinity United Church of Christ for more than 20 years, and led by his mentor Jeremiah Wright

describes the value system of the church;

http://www.trinitychicago.org/index.php ... iew&id=114

THE BLACK VALUE SYSTEM

Trinity United Church of Christ adopted the Black Value System, written by the Manford Byrd Recognition Committee, chaired by the late Vallmer Jordan in 1981.

Dr. Manford Byrd, our brother in Christ, withstood the ravage of being denied his earned ascension to the number one position in the Chicago School System. His dedication to the pursuit of excellence, despite systematic denials, has inspired the congregation of Trinity United Church of Christ. Prayerfully, we have called upon the wisdom of all past generations of suffering Blacks for guidance in fashioning an instrument of Black self-determination, the Black Value System.

Beginning in 1982, an annual Black Value System - Educational Scholarship in the name of Dr. Byrd was instituted. The first recipient of the Dr. Manford Byrd Award, which is given annually to the man or woman who best exemplifies the Black Value System, was our brother, Dr. Manford Byrd.

These Black Ethics must be taught and exemplified in homes, churches, nurseries and schools, wherever Blacks are gathered. They consist of the following concepts:

Commitment to God. "The God of our weary years" will give us the strength to give up prayerful passivism and become Black Christian Activists, soldiers for Black freedom and the dignity of all humankind. Matthew 22:37 - Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.


Commitment to the Black Community. The highest level of achievement for any Black person must be a contribution of strength and continuity of the Black Community. I John 4:20 - If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother [or his sister], he is a liar; for he that loveth not his brother or sister whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?


Commitment to the Black Family. The Black family circle must generate strength, stability and love, despite the uncertainty of externals, because these characteristics are required if the developing person is to withstand warping by our racist competitive society. Those Blacks who are blessed with membership in a strong family unit must reach out and expand that blessing to the less fortunate. Deuteronomy 6:6-8 - And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart: And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up. And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.


Dedication to the Pursuit of Education. We must forswear anti-intellectualism. Continued survival demands that each Black person be developed to the utmost of his/her mental potential despite the inadequacies of the formal education process. “Real education” fosters understanding of ourselves as well as every aspect of our environment. Also, it develops within us the ability to fashion concepts and tools for better utilization of our resources, and more effective solutions to our problems. Since the majority of Blacks have been denied such learning, Black Education must include elements that produce high school graduates with marketable skills, a trade or qualifications for apprenticeships, or proper preparation for college. Basic education for all Blacks should include Mathematics, Science, Logic, General Semantics, Participative Politics, Economics and Finance, and the Care and Nurture of Black minds. Matthew 22:37 - Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul and with all thy mind.


Dedication to the Pursuit of Excellence. To the extent that we individually reach for, even strain for excellence, we increase, geometrically, the value and resourcefulness of the Black Community. We must recognize the relativity of one’s best; this year’s best can be bettered next year. Such is the language of growth and development. We must seek to excel in every endeavor. Ecclesiastes 9:10 - Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do [it] with thy might; for [there is] no work, nor device, nor knowledge, nor wisdom, in the grave, whither thou goest.


Adherence to the Black Work Ethic. "It is becoming harder to find qualified people to work in Chicago." Whether this is true or not, it represents one of the many reasons given by businesses and industries for deserting the Chicago area. We must realize that a location with good facilities, adequate transportation and a reputation for producing skilled workers will attract industry. We are in competition with other cities, states and nations for jobs. High productivity must be a goal of the Black workforce. II Thessalonians 3:7-12 - For yourselves know how ye ought to follow us: for we behaved not ourselves disorderly among you; Neither did we eat any man's bread for nought; but wrought with labor and travail night and day, that we might not be chargeable to any of you: Not because we have not power, but to make ourselves an ensample unto you to follow us. For even when we were with you, this we commanded you, that if any would not work, neither should he eat. For we hear that there are some which walk among you disorderly, working not at all, but are busybodies. Now them that are such we command and exhort by our Lord Jesus Christ, that with quietness they work, and eat their own bread.


Commitment to Self-Discipline and Self-Respect. To accomplish anything worthwhile requires self-discipline. We must be a community of self-disciplined persons if we are to actualize and utilize our own human resources, instead of perpetually submitting to exploitation by others. Self-discipline, coupled with a respect for self, will enable each of us to be an instrument of Black Progress and a model for Black Youth. I Peter 1:4-7 - To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you, Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations: That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perishes, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honor and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ.


Disavowal of the Pursuit of "Middleclassness." Classic methodology on control of captives teaches that captors must be able to identify the "talented tenth" of those subjugated, especially those who show promise of providing the kind of leadership that might threaten the captor's control. Proverbs 3:13-14 - Happy are those who find wisdom and those who gain understanding, for her income is better than silver and her revenue better than gold.

Those so identified are separated from the rest of the people by:
Killing them off directly, and/or fostering a social system that encourages them to kill off one another.
Placing them in concentration camps, and/or structuring an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons.
Seducing them into a socioeconomic class system which, while training them to earn more dollars, hypnotizes them into believing they are better than others and teaches them to think in terms of "we" and "they" instead of "us."
So, while it is permissible to chase "middleclassness" with all our might, we must avoid the third separation method - the psychological entrapment of Black "middleclassness." If we avoid this snare, we will also diminish our "voluntary" contributions to methods A and B. And more importantly, Black people no longer will be deprived of their birthright: the leadership, resourcefulness and example of their own talented persons.


Pledge to Make the Fruits of All Developing and Acquired Skills Available to the Black Community.


Pledge to Allocate Regularly, a Portion of Personal Resources for Strengthening and Supporting Black Institutions.


Pledge Allegiance to All Black Leadership Who Espouse and Embrace the Black Value System.


Personal Commitment to Embracement of the Black Value System. To measure the worth and validity of all activity in terms of positive contributions to the general welfare of the Black Community and the Advancement of Black People towards freedom.

[lzzrdgrrl]

Well, more and more people are saying it... even if the PC here and at Asia Times do not like it...
.......

The only reason he was elected was the color of his skin.

Not true, there are other questionable reasons as well.........

He was, and is, rather hawt looking and his wife and family more than a bit aesthetically appealing. If you look at him right, that 'euro' vibe comes in loud and clear. A crucial one being able to write fully PAID to the Bush administration which a nomination of the 'Billary' (remember that one?..... ......) would not do. Not being affiliated with the old-line power brokers was important to dewy-eyed young first-vote idealists, and being the ones to elect the FBP. It does come back to the FBP at some point or another, but there were other reasons, such as they were.....

[CognitiveDistoibance]

He wasn't John McCain, for another...

[lzzrdgrrl]

He wasn't Palin's Grrl Friday, yes, this is true........

hokey mokey....... that year's election slate was one ugleh cribbage hand, that's fer sure..... .......

[Pastaneta]

He was, and is, rather hawt looking and his wife and family more than a bit aesthetically appealing.

De gustibus... I find him very "quelconque" and she is repulsive...