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Postby Greg R. Lawson » Thu Sep 09, 2010 2:06 pm

A major article in Fobes magazine describes President Obama's father's anti-colonial mindset and states this is a key foundation for understanding Obama's anti-business policies. It seems to dovetail quite closely with arguments made previously by our host on numerous occassions. The money quotes below,

Colonialism today is a dead issue. No one cares about it except the man in the White House. He is the last anticolonial. Emerging market economies such as China, India, Chile and Indonesia have solved the problem of backwardness; they are exploiting their labor advantage and growing much faster than the U.S. If America is going to remain on top, we have to compete in an increasingly tough environment.

But instead of readying us for the challenge, our President is trapped in his father's time machine. Incredibly, the U.S. is being ruled according to the dreams of a Luo tribesman of the 1950s. This philandering, inebriated African socialist, who raged against the world for denying him the realization of his anticolonial ambitions, is now setting the nation's agenda through the reincarnation of his dreams in his son. The son makes it happen, but he candidly admits he is only living out his father's dream. The invisible father provides the inspiration, and the son dutifully gets the job done. America today is governed by a ghost.


http://www.forbes.com/forbes/2010/0927/politics-socialism-capitalism-private-enterprises-obama-business-problem.html
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Simple Minded » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:50 pm

Greg,

Interesting that you should post that.

This was given to me by a friend on Wednesday:
http://www.odemagazine.com/doc/69/obama-hawaii/

Obama often said during the campaign that people project onto him whatever they wish.

Great attribute for a potential new hire. May be not so good for an owner.
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Simple Minded » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:54 pm

Simple Minded wrote:Greg,

Interesting that you should post that.

This was given to me by a friend on Wednesday:
http://www.odemagazine.com/doc/69/obama-hawaii/

Obama often said during the campaign that people project onto him whatever they wish.

Great attribute for a potential new hire. May be not so good for an owner.


Better phrasing: May be not so good for a CEO.
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Michael » Sat Sep 11, 2010 6:20 am

Who still grows up where they were born? Who lives where they grew up? Who works where they live? Who lives where their ancestors did? And to whom do the children of this era belong, to television or their parents? The truth is that we have been completely torn from any belonging, we are no longer from anywhere, and the result, in addition to a new disposition to tourism, is an undeniable suffering.

Yes, our history is one of colonizations, of migrations, of wars, of exiles, of the destruction of all roots. It’s the story of everything that has made us foreigners in this world, guests in our own family. We have been expropriated from our own language by education, from our songs by reality TV contests, from our flesh by mass pornography, from our city by the police, and from our friends by wage-labor.
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby lzzrdgrrl » Sat Sep 11, 2010 1:15 pm

Michael wrote:Who still grows up where they were born? Who lives where they grew up? Who works where they live? Who lives where their ancestors did? And to whom do the children of this era belong, to television or their parents? The truth is that we have been completely torn from any belonging, we are no longer from anywhere, and the result, in addition to a new disposition to tourism, is an undeniable suffering.

Yes, our history is one of colonizations, of migrations, of wars, of exiles, of the destruction of all roots. It’s the story of everything that has made us foreigners in this world, guests in our own family. We have been expropriated from our own language by education, from our songs by reality TV contests, from our flesh by mass pornography, from our city by the police, and from our friends by wage-labor.


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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Pastaneta » Sun Sep 12, 2010 7:41 am

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/24 ... bert-costa

Gingrich says that D’Souza has made a “stunning insight” into Obama’s behavior — the “most profound insight I have read in the last six years about Barack Obama.”

“What if [Obama] is so outside our comprehension, that only if you understand Kenyan, anti-colonial behavior, can you begin to piece together [his actions]?” Gingrich asks. “That is the most accurate, predictive model for his behavior.”

“This is a person who is fundamentally out of touch with how the world works, who happened to have played a wonderful con, as a result of which he is now president,” Gingrich tells us.

“I think he worked very hard at being a person who is normal, reasonable, moderate, bipartisan, transparent, accommodating — none of which was true,” Gingrich continues. “In the Alinksy tradition, he was being the person he needed to be in order to achieve the position he needed to achieve . . . He was authentically dishonest.”
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Michael » Sun Sep 12, 2010 8:11 am

lzzrdgrrl wrote:
Michael wrote:Who still grows up where they were born? Who lives where they grew up? Who works where they live? Who lives where their ancestors did? And to whom do the children of this era belong, to television or their parents? The truth is that we have been completely torn from any belonging, we are no longer from anywhere, and the result, in addition to a new disposition to tourism, is an undeniable suffering.

Yes, our history is one of colonizations, of migrations, of wars, of exiles, of the destruction of all roots. It’s the story of everything that has made us foreigners in this world, guests in our own family. We have been expropriated from our own language by education, from our songs by reality TV contests, from our flesh by mass pornography, from our city by the police, and from our friends by wage-labor.


http://www.gtaforums.com/index.php?showtopic=438888

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Ohsawa

I was speaking of the general case - In my own person, I am a true peasant, whose family has lived on the same land since at least 1617 (when the Register of Sasines was established) and, probably long before.
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby charleston » Sun Sep 12, 2010 12:50 pm

comment from the Forbes article


Posted by bone2fish | 09/11/10 10:39 AM EDT

Obama is being a very successful President at what he wants to accomplish.

His words and associations have shown who he is.

He told a reporter that the U.S. Constitution was a limiting document in that it did not state what govt. could do for it's people. This statement points to his dislike of the document.

He told Joe the Plumber he wanted to "spread the wealth around".This statement shows his socialist anti-capitaslist ideas.

He told us he was going to "Be ready to rule from day one". This statement shows his fascist ideas of govt. control.
How many Czars does he have?

He told us he was going to "radically transform America" This statement proves his dislike of this country.

His asscociations throughout his life have proven who he is and how he thinks.

Now we learn about his father in this commentary.

Frank Marshall Davis from his book "Dreams of My Father" a communist.

He hung around Marxist people and professors in college.

He is a friend of Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dorn.

His association with A.C.O.R.N.

His obvious love for "Rules for Radicals" by Saul Alynski.

So far he has been successful with his agenda, but now he is waking a sleeping giant.

If this President continues his "Change"
this country will cease being the country I grew up in.

The alarming thing to me is that based on some of the comments here,some still sleep.
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby hoosiernorm » Sat Sep 18, 2010 11:41 pm

I prefer Bob's analysis of the piece and of obama

http://onecosmos.blogspot.com/2010/09/o ... html#links

So first of all, to go along with our analysis, one must believe that man is in some sense a fallen being with a built-in -- or at least inevitable -- dasein flaw. You certainly needn't be a fanatic about it, since this comports with common sense and with virtually infinite historical examples.

You have only to know that "something ain't right" with the earthlings, however you wish to conceptualize it. Being aware of this principle is one of our greatest inoculations against utopian leftist schemes to perfect mankind, which always result in unanticipated cosmic belowback, AKA "hell on earth."

Secondly, you would have to believe that it is possible for the energies responsible for the Fall to be personified -- or, let us say, both focused and dispersed like a beam of darkness through the concavity or convexations of man's heart. As Christ is a blinding light, antichrist would be, oh, a hollow darkness visible.

Thus, to those who live in spiritual darkness, it would appear as a false light -- as, say, a single match is brighter than the sun in an enclosed room, cut off from the real source of light. And the hollowness would be mistaken for fulness as a result of its receptiveness to primitive projection. Thus, a spiritually normal person sees Obama as unusually empty while others project all sorts of wonderful things into him -- intelligence, wisdom, sophistication, prudence, courage, temperance, etc.

The Serpent -- to paraphrase our best Unknown Friend -- sssymbolizes advanced intelligence ("the most cunning of the beasts") turned wholly toward the horizontal. Thus, it is a perversion of man's intellect, as it represents a self-sufficient naturalism and total (small r) realism that betrays -- literally, for it turns against it in rebellion -- the vertical source of human intelligence. As such, we would expect one aspect of the antichristic to be high intelligence combined with extraordinary vapidity, at least for those with spiritual discernment.

But this cannot merely be the philosophical vapidity of the doctrinaire atheist or scientistic materialist or ideological Darwinian, or it could never gain traction in the human heart, which always hungers for Spirit, even (or especially) if it is the false and meretricious kind (otherwise, Balthasar or Schuon would sell more books than Deepak or Marianne Williamson).

Rather, it would have to come cloaked in some sort of seductive or hypnotic faux verticality. It would indeed have to be charismatic and charming, bearing in mind the root meaning of former, which is "divine gift," and of the latter, which is "incantation" or "magic spell."

A spiritually normal person would be alarmed and even deeply creeped out if he possessed this kind of influence over others. At the very least, it would be an occasion for the deepest humility, combined with concern over the precarious state of the spiritually famished souls under his influence.

Most people, if they knew the implications, would not want this power, because they would know that they are neither worthy of it nor competent to deal with it, any more than they are competent to perform brain surgery. But a person with narcissistic issues will be too intoxicated by the feelings of adulation to care about the souls with whom he is toying. They are just props, part of his psychic furniture.

This power is a serious responsibility and is not to be taken lightly. The spiritually normal person knows that this charis is only on loan to him (or courses through him locally from a nonlocal source), and that he is not free to use it as he will. At the very least, one could not purposely lie to those who place their trust in you, let alone on the grand scale committed by Obama.

Rather, one is only free to use this power if it is aligned with its vertical source and with vertical principles, i.e., Truth, Love, Beauty, and Unity (not relativism, idiot compassion, aesthetic barbarism, and fractious pseudo-diversity).

There is something coming through the charismatic, not from him, and as soon as one realizes this, it is an occasion, yes, for gratitude, but also fear and trembling. It is analogous to the power to send men to die for their country, only on the vertical plane. It is the ability to inspire selfless martyrs, but for what purpose? Our satanic Islamist enemies are clearly selfless idealists under the influence of charismatic leaders. So what?

Our Unknown Friend asks the questions, "Can one produce artificially intellectual, moral or spiritual inspiration? Can the lungs produce the air which they need for respiration?" No, of course not: "the very process of breathing teaches the laws of obedience, poverty, and chastity, i.e. it is a lesson (by analogy) of grace. Conscious breathing in of the reality of grace is Christian Hatha-yoga. Christian Hatha-yoga is the vertical breathing of prayer and benediction -- or, in other words, one opens oneself to grace (↓) and receives it."

Unknown Friend goes on to say that the antichristic represents "the ideal of biological and historical evolution without grace." This is a key idea, for what is a progressive? A progressive is someone who believes fervently in progress while fanatically denying its possibility, since progress can only be measured in light of permanent truths and transcendent ideals. Absent the transcendent, there is only horizontal power.

The antichrist "is the ultimate product of this evolution without grace and is not an entity created by God," since divine creation is always a vertical act or descent. Yes, all things ultimately "come from God," in the same sense that all light comes from the sun, but think of all the infernal uses to which man may put the light, darkling! For the light falls on the righteous and tenured alike.

Now, in this absurcular dialectic, Obama is ultimately a creator of those who created him. Unknown friend writes that, just as there are spiritual beings who reveal themselves "from above," there are what he calls egregores, which are "engendered artificially [and collectively] from below."

Thus, "as powerful as they may be," they "have only an ephemeral existence," the duration of which "depends entirely on galvanising nourishment on the part of their creators." [As Obama's projected power begins to fade and the illusion is punctured, we'll see more and more of his former supporters publicly asking, "what was I thinking?" in empowering this intellectual cypher. The answer is, "you weren't. You were fantasizing." Of course, others -- the true believers -- will "dig in."]

As such, the really frightening thing about these kinds of amorphous demagogues is that they are given life and nourished by the rabble they nourish and to whom they give life, in a spiritually barren cycle. The result is either spiritual asphyxiation or starvation, or probably both. And starved and suffocating men are capable of anything. [So in terms of the future psychic weather, look for a kind of blinding "psychic frenzy" from the left, much of which will be carried out in the dark.]

Ultimately, the antichrist is the shadow of the totality of mankind, as Jesus was the immanent shadow, so to speak, of the transcendent Divine Principle. The antichrist represents all that man is, and can be in the absence of divine grace. It is he who transported Jesus to the highest earthly mountain "and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory" and said to him All these things I will give you if you will fall down and worship me.

The secular extremist or fanatical progressive worships his own creation, and in so doing, gives birth to the antiword. Materially, it results in a lefthound Tower of Babel (i.e, the all-powerful state), whereas spiritually it results in a gelatinous tower of leftist babble (i.e., the vacuous but seductive demagogue who will lead the people in the direction of their most base impulses and envious desires).
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Uche Africanus » Sun Sep 19, 2010 12:04 pm

De Souza is an arreviste who thinks that he can achieve the AMerican dream by telling American wingnauts what lies in the heart of its first African-American president. What by the way is "anti-colonial ambition"? Is this similar to what the Indians engaged in under Ghandi? And how has this mentality affected the likes of De Souza and informed their "boy-boy" attitudes and mannerisms?

I don't know why some of thse Indian chaps fail to get it? That was how the Indian born governor of Louisania sort to assert an equivalence between Obama's American journey and that of his parents as if they are of the same pedigree and relevance. Or maybe, they confuse America with their own brahman origins and the class infestation that will hold India in backwardness for hundreds of years to come.

And when did India escape the problems of backwardness as De Souza asserts seeing that I missed the memo on that? Does a land where the extensive sexual trumatization of girls within the family is as high as 70 percent managed to escape is backwardness? Or where more than half of the population lack roofs over their heads constitute an advanced country? This is the sort of crap that some mis informed Americans buy into because it fits their narrative and why not take it seriously when it is offered by another "dark" person even if that person has all the veracity of a prostitute.


Anyway, we are keeping watch on the likes of De Souza to see if his kind of thinking has pervaded most Indians who arrive in this country and think that they can come to the USA, the ancestral home of African Americans and spill racist garbage at them, to pull the curtain on their foolishness once and for all.
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Pastaneta » Sun Sep 19, 2010 1:15 pm

D'Souza's piece was very well written. I didn't care for his answer though but chacun à son goût. D'Souza is much less an arriviste than Michelle Antoinette and the obamination. At least he did something by himself.

What I note is the crass racism of Uche who speaks of "Indian chaps"... Well contrarily to Nigeria, India is on the path to development... This may be the reason of his words... The green eyed monster rears its head...

After all when did you hear of a world class achievement from Nigeria Of course we hear about them from India...

La différence...
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Pastaneta » Sun Sep 19, 2010 2:17 pm

http://thenationonlineng.net/web2/artic ... Page1.html

The Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of Nigeria was estimated at $353.2 billion in 2009. Compared to America, the GDP was estimated at $14.256 trillion in 2009. A further comparison gives that of India as $3.526 trillion in 2009, while in Africa, Ghana has $40 billion estimate for 2010, and Botswana’s 2009 estimate was $25.399 billion. Of the four countries, only Ghana recently started to produce oil for export. In Nigeria, about 34.1 per cent of the GDP come from industry including petroleum, 33.4 per cent from agriculture, and 32.5 per cent from services. But conversely, petroleum and petroleum products amounting to less than 25 per cent of GDP provides for 95 per cent of exports, made up of $45.43 billion, and this translates to about 65 per cent of government revenue (see CIA’s world facts book).

According to the World Bank, because of corruption about 80 per cent of Nigeria’s energy revenue benefits only one per cent of her population. Arising from the same cankerworm, about 80 per cent of the government revenue is substantially frittered away through fraudulent importation and capital flight. Comparatively, due to inflation the per capita GDP today remains lower than in 1960 when Nigeria gained her independence. According to the United Nations Development Index, Nigeria ranked 151 out of 177 countries in 2004. Our GDP per capita is estimated at $2,400, while that of Botswana is $13.992 (2009). Comparatively again, our per capita income compared to USA was 1.96 per cent in 2005 as against 7.22 per cent in 1980...

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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Simple Minded » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:23 am

Uche Africanus wrote:
Anyway, we are keeping watch on the likes of De Souza to see if his kind of thinking has pervaded most Indians who arrive in this country and think that they can come to the USA, the ancestral home of African Americans and spill racist garbage at them, to pull the curtain on their foolishness once and for all.



Uche,

I keep seeing patterns in your replies.... what do you do for a living?
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Simple Minded » Mon Sep 20, 2010 6:43 am

Uche Africanus wrote:De Souza is an arreviste who thinks that he can achieve the AMerican dream by telling American wingnauts what lies in the heart of its first African-American president. What by the way is "anti-colonial ambition"? Is this similar to what the Indians engaged in under Ghandi? And how has this mentality affected the likes of De Souza and informed their "boy-boy" attitudes and mannerisms?


I recall an interview with D'Souza and he said:

There is no doubt my grandparent's generation suffered under British colonial rule. There is no doubt my generation has benefitted from British colonial rule. Which do you use for your evaluation?"
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Postby Pastaneta » Mon Sep 20, 2010 7:02 am

SM:

Look at India and China... One was colonized, the other no... India is much more of a success story than China I think... And the reason are the institutions left by the Brits.
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