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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Pastaneta » Wed Sep 22, 2010 7:46 am

. China successfully hosted an Olympic Game. South Africa had a most successful World Cup but India cannot even pepare for the tiny Common Wealth Games that brings together a slice of the people from Britiain's ex colonies.


South Africa was a disaster... China is a communist country so they can order people to work... India is a democracy.

Nigeria is a disaster, like all of sub-Saharan Africa...

As I said, we should continue on the studies of the genetic basis of intelligence.
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Uche Africanus » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:28 am

Why do you insist on speaking authoritatively on something you know little about, Pasta?

I was in South Africa for the World Cup and it was a very successful event. I think most will confirm this.

China's hosting of the Olympics a few years ago was done successfully. Not quite a decade ago, Nigeria successfully hosted an All African Games and is in bidding to host the Common Wealth Games. The US has successfully hosted major sporting events including the Summer and Winter Olympic Games even though it is a free country and a democracy. Nigeria is both a democracy and with a culture that is anchored on individual freedom but if it takes on a task in which invitations have been sent to many countries and thousands of athletes it sure will assure that the invited guests do not come to shoddily built structures that can collapse or with shit infested accommodations. That India cannot rise up to something as small as hosting the Common Wealth Games says a lot about it as a country and about its leadership. Seven years of preparation and this:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... l-out.html
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Uche Africanus » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:41 am

As I said, we should continue on the studies of the genetic basis of intelligence.



Pasta,

I almost missed this. What studies do you want to reference?

I'm sure that you are aware that intelligence means different things to different people. What may be intelligence to you may not be the same to someone else. Personally, I consider a people to be intelligent if they have produced excellent cuisine, good music and beautiful women. These are the stuff of life. I am also aware of nations and peoples who produced intelligence in the form of nobel laurates who are yet to escape their base instincts. The work they worked on or invented is not diminished by their coarse nature and instincts but the existence of such does not make them intelligent in my opinion. There are lots of people who are monomaniac or know only to do some things. Gaining thorough knowledge and expertise in those things is a different matter altogether and does not correlate to the argument you are eager to make.

Anyway, Good morning!

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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Pastaneta » Wed Sep 22, 2010 11:15 am

The one done by Dr Lahn... Who was the first to say that the PC brigade will hinder these studies to their last breath... Or until the truth out.

https://www.forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=2442

This excellent new Chicago work has been carried out under the direction of a young Chinese, Dr. Bruce Lahn. His team had studied the prevalence of variants of two genes that are disabled or damaged in human cases of severe microcephaly, in which the brain develops to only 30 percent its normal size. The fact that they are damaged in microcephalics suggests they are necessary for normal brain growth.

Dr. Lahn’s researchers examined the DNA of 1,184 people around the world — though not in racially mixed areas like North America, Russia and Australia. They estimated that one undamaged variation, microcephalin haplogroup D (let us call it variation one, or V1) first appeared around 40,000 BC and has since spread to some 70 percent of humans. It is more common in Europe, Asia, South America and Latin America than in black Africa. At three percent, it is especially infrequent in Congo pygmies, whom black Africans commonly regard as inferior.

A second variant of the gene, abnormal spindle-like microcephaly-associatedhaplogroup D (let us call it V2), arrived more recently, around 6,000 BC, and has since spread to 30 percent of humans. It is most common in Europe and the Middle East, somewhat less common in Asia, and distinctly rare in black Africa.

Dr. Lahn and colleagues noted that the arrival of V1 coincided roughly with the first signs of human habitation and agriculture; V2 appeared about the time of the first cities and the development of written language. The Chicago team believes these new alleles gave rise to these important developments, and that their possessors reproduced quickly by occupying the new niches offered by agriculture and written language.

Geneticists can estimate the age of an allele by observing the number of mutations found in it and calculating back to when the allele first appeared in the most recent common ancestor. Mutations arise at predictable rates, and are considered to be a reasonably accurate measure of relatively short periods of evolution. It is by this method that scientists estimate it has been five to six million years since humans and chimpanzee had a common ancestor.


http://seedmagazine.com/content/article ... ruce_lahn/

Geneticist Bruce Lahn first made a name for himself when he paired with David Page, director of MIT’s Whitehead Institute for Biomedical Research, to craft a novel theory on the origins of the Y chromosome. But Lahn is perhaps best known for his paper on the evolution of the human brain, and the implications for intelligence and race that have become attached to it.

Lahn’s paper on the recent evolution of the human brain asserts that new versions of two genes are currently spreading through the human population, and that these genes are more prevalent in some geographic regions than others. He has speculated that these genes may be linked to brain size and intelligence and has wondered if the mutations—one of which took place roughly 40,000 years ago, the other, 5,800 years ago—correlate with the development of art, written language, and the founding of cities. And he stepped on more than a few feet when he noted that, geographically speaking, the changes had occurred pretty much everywhere but sub-Saharan Africa.

Some scientists have criticized Lahn’s work as inconclusive, challenging his claims that these genes are integral to brain evolution. His critics brand Lahn’s speculation as irresponsible, especially given the volatile combination of genetics, intelligence, and race that his ideas encompass.

Lahn’s defenders say he was merely practicing good science, had no agenda, and that the controversy surrounding his work was merely his underestimating the political reaction to his research.
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Uche Africanus » Wed Sep 22, 2010 8:16 pm

Mediamatters has taken a look at the garbage paraded as an incisive article on the POTUS by the arriviste D'Souza and pronounced it as full of lies, half-truths and distortions. These are in my estimation some of the obvious hallmarks of pagans,where the truth becomes anything one is able to get away with or in this case, anything that gets one noticed. Darthmouth has some explanation to give on how and why they graduated this irrational Hindu.

http://mediamatters.org/research/201009160031


Columbia Journalism Review thinks D'Souza's article as:

is a gross piece of innuendo—a fact-twisting, error-laden piece of paranoia. This is the worst kind of smear journalism—a singularly disgusting work.



Anyway, I will let the people at the CJR to speak for themselves. Times were when peer review did matter especially with loons like our arriviste "friend", D' Souza. Those times seems to be lost and all sorts of irrational people feel qualified to weigh in on matters they barely understand.


http://www.cjr.org/the_audit/forbes_sha ... dsouza.php
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Simple Minded » Wed Sep 22, 2010 9:34 pm

Fascinating replies to D'souza's article. He definitely touched a few nerves. He can consider the attacks of his critcs a compliment. No one ever kicks a dead dog.

Fascinating to see the extent of the emotional investment...... or the investment of their sense of self-worth some people have made in this president. The True Believer by Eric Hoffer and the Contrary Magazine Cover indicator were excellent leading indicators of this current phenomena.

As one who has been disenfranchised by both parties for about 30 years, I kinda feel bad that I don't have a dog in this fight, nor a sacred cow to defend.

"I didn't leave the Democratic party or the Republican party! They left me!" I don't recall being more comfortable with any of the previous politicians from Hyannisport or Kennebunkport either.

I think D'souza made an excellent point. The culture in which you spend your first 17 years goes a long way towards defining your world view, probably for the rest of your life. Seems self evident. Whether D'souza correctly assessed Obama's psyche as profoundly influenced by his father, or if Spengler was correct, that Obama's primary influence was his mother, is another story.

As one who grew up in rural New York state and moved to Virginia at age 28, I can testify to the huge cultural difference a mere 600 miles in the US can produce.

I think the real story, that is being overlooked here, is the zeitgeist thruout the Western hemisphere. Why are so many people, all of a sudden, thinking, "Huh? What? Where am I? Who is this guy?" So many have the perspective of one who has just awoken from a three year coma. Who is surprised? Why are they surprised?

This is a phenomena that one can not blame on Obama. The blame can only lie with each individual's desire to not know, nor to listen during the campaign. The desire to simply vote for "anything that is the biggest change from the status quo" was one of the most amazing things I have ever seen. Granted with only three or four items on the menu...... it was not exactly a buffet.

I remember asking a dozen friends who were smitten, and who planned to vote for Obama "Exactly what is it about unspecified change that you like?" All I ever recieved in reply was the dead deer look.

The other story here that is being overlooked, is since D'souza quotes Obama, in his own words, from Obama's book, in defending Obama, D'souza's critics, are reduced to calling Obama himself a lier. Ouuuch! Calling your hero a lier..... that has to hurt!

Fascinating times. I think about 20 years of apathy/somnambulism may be nearing an end.
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby charleston » Wed Sep 22, 2010 10:16 pm

regarding:

or if Spengler was correct, that Obama's primary influence was his mother, is another story.


Obama's life is defined by his rejection of his white heritage.

From "Dreams of My Father"..an homage to the polygamous drunk who abandoned him and his mother...to his vile, racist, ranting, marxist mentor and sicko, Jeremiah Wright...to his radical drug dealing and Pakistani friends at school, and finally to the American hating, bitter, arrogant woman he married.

The 'whites' in his life merely greased the wheels of his ambition.
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Pastaneta » Thu Sep 23, 2010 9:15 am

So many have the perspective of one who has just awoken from a three year coma. Who is surprised? Why are they surprised?


This happens with charismatic leaders when they cannot sustain the charisma. I never saw it myself so I am immunized, but Obama was no different from a lot of charismatic snake oil salesmen. Now people are waking up.

I would recommend Noonan's very good text, the Alien in the White House.
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby charleston » Thu Sep 23, 2010 5:05 pm

the POTUS Uche defends:

The Absolute Gall… Obama Lectures Global Community: Stand Up for Freedom
Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, September 23, 2010, 10:33 AM

In 2007- Barack Obama said that genocide was preferable to keeping US troops in Iraq to secure the peace.

In 2008- Barack Obama “hid behind the bushes” when Russian tanks plowed through Georgia.

In 2009- When freedom activists cried out for Barack Obama, he sat on his hands as Iranian democracy protesters were gunned down by regime thugs on rooftops.

Today Barack Obama lectured the global community on standing up against tyranny.
From his speech today at the UN.

The world that America seeks is not one that we can build on our own. For human rights to reach those who suffer the boot of oppression, we need your voices to speak out. In particular, I appeal to those nations who emerged from tyranny and inspired the world in the second half of the last century – from South Africa to South Asia; from Eastern Europe to South America. Do not stand idly by when dissidents everywhere are imprisoned and protesters are beaten. Because part of the price of our own freedom is standing up for the freedom of others.


I think I will vomit.

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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby cassowary » Fri Sep 24, 2010 2:12 am

Uche Africanus wrote:it sure will assure that the invited guests do not come to shoddily built structures that can collapse or with shit infested accommodations. That India cannot rise up


I don't know if you guys know this, but India wins the world championship for public defecation.

Excerpts:

With that act, she added to the estimated 100,000 tons of human excrement that Indians leave each day in fields of potatoes, carrots and spinach, on banks that line rivers used for drinking and bathing and along roads jammed with scooters, trucks and pedestrians. Devi looks back on her routine with pain and embarrassment.


Everyone in Indian cities is at risk of consuming human feces, if they’re not already, the Ministry of Urban Development concluded in September.


Indians practice open defecation, more than half the global total. In China, the world’s most populous country, 37 million people defecate in the open, according to Unicef.


Shitting in public is just part of their culture. Trains in India regularly make toilet stops. That's when the passengers alight and shit on both sides of the tracks. I am not kidding.
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Simple Minded » Sat Sep 25, 2010 7:32 am

Uche Africanus wrote:Simple Minded,

If you son't mind, may I also recommend this book to you:

The Black Man's Burden


It is written by Basil Davidson. He is now deceased.

Cheers,
Uche


Thanks Uche,

I read a book of identical title about 20-25 years ago. I don't recall the author's name.

I'll check it out!

cheers!
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Uche Africanus » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:17 pm

Simple Mind wrote:
Uche Africanus wrote:
Simple Minded,

If you don't mind, may I also recommend this book to you:

The Black Man's Burden

It is written by Basil Davidson. He is now deceased.

Cheers,
Uche

Thanks Uche,

I read a book of identical title about 20-25 years ago. I don't recall the author's name.




Glad you will consider Basil Davidson's book. Mr Davidson is a widely respected author on African history. His passing last year was mourned in Africa. He first encountered Africa when he made a stop over in the Nigerian city of Kano as a soldier in WW11. It can be said that following that encounter he never actually left Africa as his various books on that magnificent continent and its noble peoples attests.

It has been said that a great book judges us by challenging us and some of our beliefs. I think you will find
The Blackman's Burden...
to be one that will challenge and possibly change some of your perspective
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby charleston » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:37 pm

Uche Africanus wrote:
It has been said that a great book judges us by challenging us and some of our beliefs. I think you will find
The Blackman's Burden...
to be one that will challenge and possibly change some of your perspective


too bad this book cannot change the reality on the ground of Africa
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Uche Africanus » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:41 pm

cassowary wrote:
Uche Africanus wrote:
it sure will assure that the invited guests do not come to shoddily built structures that can collapse or with shit infested accommodations. That India cannot rise up

I don't know if you guys know this, but India wins the world championship for public defecation.

Excerpts:

With that act, she added to the estimated 100,000 tons of human excrement that Indians leave each day in fields of potatoes, carrots and spinach, on banks that line rivers used for drinking and bathing and along roads jammed with scooters, trucks and pedestrians. Devi looks back on her routine with pain and embarrassment.

Everyone in Indian cities is at risk of consuming human feces, if they’re not already, the Ministry of Urban Development concluded in September.

Indians practice open defecation, more than half the global total. In China, the world’s most populous country, 37 million people defecate in the open, according to Unicef.

Shitting in public is just part of their culture. Trains in India regularly make toilet stops. That's when the passengers alight and shit on both sides of the tracks. I am not kidding.




Cass,

Thank you for confirming my earlier argument. That India has not conquered the problem of backwardness as the arriviste D'Souza claims on his hatchet job on the POTUS in Forbes. It so happens that in the same month as D'Souza's article and that Newt Gringrich, a man with an overarching nuisance personality, claim that D'Souza provided him with a unique perspective on President Obama, the world press focused on India and portrayed clearly that it is far from conquering backwardness but is literally and figurativly ambered in backwardness. If this is true then D'Souza lied when he claimed that his country of origin, at least where he spent his first "formative 17 years", India, has escaped the problems of backwardness. And if he lied on something as basic as a simple fact that is universally known, what is to suggest that he did not lie on other matters in his Forbes piece? Media matters, based on a cursory investigation, found many inconsistencies and outright lies.

It speaks to the befuddlement of the conservatives and their tea party allies, their lack of discernment and intellectual depth that they will turn to a Hindu arrisviste to do a racist write up on the President of the United States in other to give their own racism a spectre of respectability like in "looksy another brown man is making the same argument we have been making.." But they forget to note that there are many hungry black and brown people who will say or do anything for the sake of lucre. It is even worse when that brown or black person is emerging from a gulag of abject poverty and a culture and civilization that is anchored on the extensive and inhumanitarian suppression of its majority citizens in the form of a wicked and antiquated caste system so that a few Brahmans can live like the British Raj of old.

Soon, Pasta will come here to tell me that the Hindus invented zero as if that is all that matters. My ancestors built the pyramids in Egypt and created a culture and a civilization that is the longest and the classicist in the history of humans and I don't go about crowing on how "I am all that".
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Re: Governed by a Ghost? Forbes Delves Into Obama's Mindset

Postby Uche Africanus » Sun Sep 26, 2010 1:50 pm

charlestorn wrote:
Uche Africanus wrote:

It has been said that a great book judges us by challenging us and some of our beliefs. I think you will find The Blackman's Burden...to be one that will challenge and possibly change some of your perspective

too bad this book cannot change the reality on the ground of Africacharleston

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My dear Charleston,

There is a time and a season for everything... It is true that Africa is in a deplorable state and no one knows that more than the Africans themselves. It is also true that in the last decade that there have been great and wonderful things going on in Africa.

Economic growth and political liberalization is occuring on a broader scale than it has been in the past. My point, charleston, is that Africa's present condition of underdevelopment is not written in stone, meaning that it will not long endure as it is. Let there be no doubt about it that the future belongs to Africans. Their kids are getting educated. They are learning the sciences and they have incredible resources-natural and human- that is yet to be tapped into. They also have a very young population. It is just a matter of time that you and the entourage from Tel Aviv or Jerusalem will be calling on Africa's doors for economic assistance and security guarantees. If I were you I will learn manners and learn to be polite because the future of Israel might very well depend on that.
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