Ehud wrote:I do not think that their violence is the greatest threat to the West. The Western mind knows how to counter violence. What it seems to have a problem with is the slow infiltration of a religion that uses intimidation mixed with multiculturalism to fend off the lingering remains of the deracinated Westerner's sense of national self-respect.
Secularism has left the West malnourished and Islam offers sustenance, but to turn to Islam is to turn against the underlying presuppositions that made the West. Islam uses our hard won freedom of religion to instill a faith that is intolerant of those who do not believe what they do.
Simple Minded wrote:On one side you have a culture so committed to their cause, that some members are willing to use their children as bomb delivery systems. On the other side, you have a complacent culture, that seems to lack any common cause, that oftens seeks comfort in denial of the existance of problems, and in many cases will not use tools/weapons that are readily at hand. The potential victor dragging himself off in chains?
What I previously tried to define as "white guilt" may be more properly termed "Western self-hatred" or "Western ennui" or perhaps the sense of "nothing to believe in means nothing is worth defending!"
I would strongly disagree that secularized industrial societies lack self-belief, suffer from self-hatred or are somehow inhibited from asserting their cultural values upon others. It is simply that the centre of gravity of our belief system has shifted from the moral space classically addressed by traditional religions to the economic space.
There has perhaps been no belief system in human history that has asserted its values with the global scale, intensity and violence as that of our secularized industrial societies. Our belief in the correctness of this system is so unquestioningly absolute that we perceive our
assertion of it as simply the progressive forces of history itself. The very idea that any society, anywhere, however insignificant might choose to organize their affairs differently is intolerable to us. And if they obdurately persist in attempting to honour their old gods and their old beliefs, then the most relentless and irresistible military machine in human history will brutally compel them to forsake them. All
natural resources, all
human activity must be harnessed to the service of our great belief - without exception.
It seems that you believe that you are defending your own traditional religious convictions - be they Christian or Judaic - against this feared Islamic interloper. But if you examine your lives, you will realize that your every waking hour, practically your every thought and action, is dedicated to the service of another god, and another belief, who you serve unquestioningly and with absolute conviction. In our own societies, any sincere attempt at resisting this most jealous of gods can only end in personal obliteration.
Our vestigial bronze-age belief systems have long been assimilated and instrumentalized by this economic belief system, and, from the day of your birth, you have all been soldiers in a completely different religious war than you imagined, and without even realizing it.